The Holy Grail! (For Red/Black)

[CashGrowth]

Hi gents,
Before you all go mad at Compa, he told us in the chat room that this method needs some form of 'tweak' to work. I guess he didn't post the tweak to protect the method from other 'spy guests' from other forums.
So far, what we know is that we have a limited safe progression which won't allow us to lose more than 7 units and there's a trigger for that. We also know that a certain tweak is needed.
He informed me that he's making quite good money with this method.
Thanks for the method Compa and we will try some tweaks and hopefully succeed!
Best of luck,
CashGrowth.

[VLS]

Advices against this system have been moved to the dissenting area:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/dissenting-area/re-the-holy-grail!-(for-redblack)/

Guys, remember we have a dissenting area; let's keep the main thread useful. If you want to dissent in the main thread, the right way is to show your test result charts, attach your RX sessions, and educating the members with facts (results) about this.

Nothing productive comes out of pure verbal dissenting on the main thread.

Thanks.

[GLC]

HI COMPA  what would be the progression ?
                  DID YOU YOU TEST THIS FLAT BETTING ?
                  how do you deal with the long series of the opposite color?
                  why only these numbers?
                   and the dummy bet how are you selecting this ? thanks warrior
                   

Warrior,

I too have been playing this the way you are, using the black #s in 2nd col and the red #s in the 3rd col.

I have been having excellent luck betting the 1-2-4-8 limited martingale.  Long streaks of colors are actually our friends because if a black trigger shows and you're in a long series of black #s, you win after every trigger.  The only thing that hurts us is if a B trigger shows followed by 4 red #s, or 4 Bs following a R trigger.

I have been playing the two colors with separated banks.  If I lose a session, I increase my stakes to 2-4-8-16 until I recover and then I return to 1-2-4-8.  If you lose at the 2-4-8-16 level you can increase again, or just stay at 2-4-8-16 to protect against multiple losses close together wiping you out.  I don't mix the two bets.  In other words, if I lose 15 on R and go to 2-4-8-16, I stay at 1-2-4-8 on Black.  This is just a matter of preference.  You could go to double stakes on both colors and recover more quickly.

I also play every trigger.  That means that sometimes I'm playing 2 or even 3 at a time.  Example:  If a R trigger shows, I start playing it.  If a B trigger spins next, I play it and con't on the R.  Another R or B trigger could show on the 3rd bet and I start playing it also.  No sense wasting good betting opportunities.

I too am waiting for Compa to tell us why the 4 Bs in 3rd col are a better trigger.  Why any of these #s are better triggers.  And what his tweak is to make it more of a winner.  Until he straightens us out, I'm having success playing a variation of his system.

Let me know if you can make some suggestions for me.  I'm always open to more light.

G.

[CashGrowth]

Warrior,
Compa recomended the 1,2,3,4 progression but he said there's a tweak to make it work.
I believe you guessed right with a second higher progression if you lost.
Maybe 1,2,3,6 and 12,24,48,100 ?? But this way the progression get too dangerous...
Or light progression like 1,1,1,2 and 4,6,10,15...
Well let's hope Compa can help us with more hints
Best of luck,
CashGrowth.

[keel44]

I think we need to make sure about the rules of this system.  Are we betting Red/Black when one of those numbers show, or are we betting just a handful of numbers?

I need confirmation.



KEEL

[Fripper]

I think we are betting the colours mate.

But I don't know one thing. If a trigger comes and we bet and lose the first, lets say that it is red we are betting one.
Do you keep betting on black to come out or are we switching? If we are not, we lose if a longer streak of reds comes out.

And also, if a trigger comes. We bet and win the first bet, do we wait until another trigger or do we keep betting 4 times? Switch coulour if win?

Fripper

[Hermes]

I tested it on couple of 100 live European roulette spins and to my surprise it WORKS! I got only 5 times to go to 4 on the progression. That's no problem for Penthouse or Leveller.
I am now concerned about the uneven numbers for RED 8 and for BLACK only 4 It is discrimination of Obama and African Americans! You could go to jail for it, be careful.
The Penthouse or Leveler progression match the holy system perfectly. I Like it only what makes me wonder what is behind those numbers that they are so important.
I will take it with me to Las Vegas on 13 July to test it next to 6 other systems, some of them holy. We will see how many stay holy after the trip? It will be fun.
Cheers Hermes

[Paja]

This could be doorstep to consistent winner in my opinion. I also think it needs some tweaking.

For all people who are blind or/and ignorant to see the reason for choosing these numbers as triggers: leave the wheel, focus only on table.

Missing part of the bet could be 2nd column. Also i'm not sure do we need all those numbers as triggers. In case of given example/bet only red majority or only black minority (no pun intended) could be right trigger group. What about reversing the bet? Using W's and L's as triggers could make it flat betting winner, which i think is a way to go.

Reason why it wins is the most important here and i don't think it's easy to find only by trial and error testing of 101 variation of this bet.

Thank you for sharing Compa.

[Fripper]

Why are you writing on another forum:
"So when we see any Number in Figure 3 Or 9, bet BLACK. If hit on B on 1st spin, bet RED."

And here:
"3.12.21.30.9.18.27.36 = Triggers for RED. Hits after 4 spins Max"

This is the opposite, which one shall we use?

I tested this with my own tweak. If a trigger comes you bet the opposite colour, if win, wait for a new trigger. But if lose high your bet like this: 1,2,4,8 (martingle). But if the next number also is a lost and is one of your triggers. Stop there and wait for another trigger.
Example:

17 B
18 R Trigger, bet black 1 unit
7 R Lost, 2 unit on black
3 R lost (trigger)  so now you don't continue. You wait for another trigger and continue with the next bet in the progression.
23 R
22 B
11 B
7 R
3 R trigger, bet 4 on black
24 B trigger, bet 1 on red
36 R trigger, bet 1 on Black
21 R (trigger)  so now you don't continue. You wait for another trigger and continue with the next bet in the progression.
5 R
0
30 R trigger, bet 2 unit on black
28 B
31 B
3 R trigger, 1 on black
32 R lost
33 B

Yeah you get the idea.
If you should lose the 8 unit bet. You wait until another trigger and start betting 2,4,8,16 until you are in profit again.
I lost 2 or 3 times the 1,2,4,8 bets. And lost the 2,4,6,8 one time in 899 spins.

Bankroll attached

Fripper

[Compa]

This could be doorstep to consistent winner in my opinion. I also think it needs some tweaking.

For all people who are blind or/and ignorant to see the reason for choosing these numbers as triggers: leave the wheel, focus only on table.

Missing part of the bet could be 2nd column. Also i'm not sure do we need all those numbers as triggers. In case of given example/bet only red majority or only black minority (no pun intended) could be right trigger group. What about reversing the bet? Using W's and L's as triggers could make it flat betting winner, which I think is a way to go.

Reason why it wins is the most important here and I don't think it's easy to find only by trial and error testing of 101 variation of this bet.

Thank you for sharing Compa.

At Last! A competent person! Very Nice! Thanks mate.

The Figure 3 and 9 is all RED Numbers. The Figure 6 is all BLACK Numbers.

3.6.9, The Key of Time rules the Roulette. So it decides the outcome in the Column 1 and 2.

Figure 3:  3.12.21.30

Figure 9: 9.18.27.36

Figure 6: 6.15.24.33

So when we see any Number in Figure 3 Or 9, bet RED. If hit on R on 1st spin, stop and retrack.

Same Procedure with Figure 6.

If i get:
12
15

I continue bet on the 12 Key. If Win on RED, i follow the 15 Key and bet BLACK.

Look out for the 2 Mainpatterns and exploit them if possible:

RBR/BRB and RRBB/BBRR(the terrible twos)

@Fripper..good to hear You found your way to Numerisenvoys.com

Now that description of the Bet is a Typo and has been Corrected..


EXAMPLE of my 3000 spin Test:

4
31
10
10
19
3  - Trigger
30 W
17
10
28
32
11
8
12 - Trigger
23 W
15 - Trigger
15 W
30 - Trigger
30 W
5
31
11
36 - Trigger
3  W
34
0
14
20
2  
10
15 - Trigger
23 L 1
16 L 2
11 W 3
4
19
9 - Trigger
26 L 1
36 W 2
4
34
28
11
0
18 - Trigger
9  W
21 - Trigger
15 L 1
1  W 2
34
26
30 - Trigger
26 L 1
9  W 2
11
2
23
11
36 - Trigger
1  W
36 - Trigger
31 L 1
5  W 2
13
23
1
1  
20
33 - Trigger
13 W
13
19
31
22
13
31
9 - Trigger
34 W
21 - Trigger
16 W
25
31
3 - Trigger
21 W
9 - Trigger

And so on..

[Fripper]

"@Fripper..good to hear You found your way to Numerisenvoys.com

Now that description of the Bet is a Typo and has been Corrected.."

Ohh, I become to wonder

But this is the way to play it then. What do you do if you lose the forth bet? There will be a longer streak of the other colour some time..

[Compa]

"@Fripper..good to hear You found your way to Numerisenvoys.com

Now that description of the Bet is a Typo and has been Corrected.."

Ohh, I become to wonder

But this is the way to play it then. What do you do if you lose the forth bet? There will be a longer streak of the other colour some time..

I never follow a Timekey more than 4 spins. If it goes LLLL i wait for another Key.

cheers!

[Fripper]

Okey mate. I tried it now, if I lost I waited for another trigger and started again with 1,2,3,4.

Started good but then it went down.

One question: What do you do when zero comes?

Attached

[Compa]

I ignore Zero.Just play on.  That is only 578 spins. It tells nothing mate;)

There should be 30x100 spins. You need to win 29 out of these 30 sessions.

i will post a Test like this in a while.

Cheers

[warrior]

I ignore Zero.Just play on.  That is only 578 spins. It tells nothing mate;)

There should be 30x100 spins. You need to win 29 out of these 30 sessions.

i will post a Test like this in a while.

CheersTHANKS FOR THE method, how do you choose  a dummy bet while your waiting my understanding your choosing a 2 dozend bet correct.thanks warrior
[/quote