The Holy Grail! (For Red/Black)

[Compa]

Dummy Bet is last spun Half of the Carpet + 2 doublestreets in the opposite Half. so its actually a "semi"-dummy. Ie: you CAN lose but also win..

[warrior]

Bella! From now on consider yourself Kicked from this Forum "DUDE"

i have tested 1000 live spins and it holds up, but compa i would not mind if you could show how to properly test this creation of yours,

       thanks warrior.

[superman]

System looks good - so far!!

OK tested against RNG in REAL money mode for a few hours, using the following method

@ any trigger eg 33 = bet black 1,2,4,8 STOP if all 4 lose
@ next trigger eg 3 = bet red 16,32,64,128 BUST if lose, suffer 255 unit loss

Attached file has 1370 attacks, only twice did it lose 255 units, file needs analysing to see if any specific trigger/number can be dropped ie, after which trigger did it lose mostly OR was it an even spread? will another progression work? etc etc

Will set it up on a laptop and let it run for the rest of the day.

[Fripper]

Superman, Compa played this with 1,2,3,4 then stop. But I don't know which is the best progression.

Compa
If you look at my results then in 100 spin sessions:
100 spin= -7
100 spin= +26
100 spin= +21
100 spin= -29
100 spin= -1
100 spin= -21

2/6 won
4/6 lost

That is not 29/30 won sessions.
Or am I doing something wrong?

[Compa]

First of all. This is NOT an RNG method. Dont even speak RNG with me. Its NOT Roulette.

Second, Fripper. If this is RNG -sessions. Trash it and make 30x100 spin sessions.

Here is only 6, which 4 lost.

/Compa

[Fripper]

OK mate, I will try it on a live wheel then later on. I always do my testing in RNG. But maybe I can collect some old live spins and check.

But ey, rng and live. What's the differens really, they are both random.It is the same. But if you say so, I will give it a go.

[weddings]

live = vs wheel rng = vs software, software eats your $=]

[Compa]

30x100 spins playing the Bet reverse. It almost qualified.

1.  -6
2.  +25
3.  +11
4.  +8
5.  +23
6.  +13
7.  +22
8.   +2
9.   +5
10.  +20
11.  +16
12.  +3
13.  +28
14. -21
15.  -4
16.  +1
17.  +6
18.  -2
19.  -15
20.  -2
21.  +9
22.  +12
23.  +8
24.  +5
25.  +9
26.  +22
27.  +8
28.  +15
29.  +19
30.  +15
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24 Sessions Won,  6 Lost

[Hermes]

Finally found it! Disappeared from the roulette systems, I thought for ever. I tested today 344 spins not so lucky as before but got only 10 losses in 344 spins and the nice surprise I had 24,20,18 wins in row. Fantastic! If I would apply progression for 6 spins instead of 4 I would win all! It will be profitable even with flat bets but with Leveller or Penthouse it is winner in long run, for sure. Best EC system I saw until now. Sometimes the loss came only because zero came between.
Compa what is the bet reverse tweak? I don't understand it? Can you explain, please. If I understand all I can make a progression that it never lose if enough bankroll.
It is pity that it cannot be used on Baccarat, SicBo and craps. Excellent for ECs. It probably works for H/L and O/E also?
Hermes

[Compa]

Hi Hermes. I'm glad You find it useful.  I hope your success is based on real Live spins.
Because RNG is NOT Roulette. Its a artificial cheat.

However,  personally I'm very restrictive when it comes to how I want something to win in the long run. So in order for me to consider it a consistent Bet, I want a steady Profit on 3000 Live Spins.

Now, I first tested this according to my own Rules but I didnt pass the 30x100 spin sessions.

So with influence of the user Fripper, here on the Board, I reversed the Bet. Not quite as he did it. Because I don't like Martingale whatsoever.

So what I did was just instead of betting RED on a RED Trigger, I did bet BLACK. And instead of BLACK on a BLACK Trigger I did bet RED. So with this strategy I got 24 sessions won and 6 lost.
on my 3000 Live Spins from my local Casino. Still not good enough though. I would have accepted 25 wins and 5 lost.

However there is a reason why these Numbers triggers the Colors. I will not elaborate on it though because it will take too long. And when it comes to E/O, yes, there is a Formula for an integration also. But that is still to be investigated. So You have to be satisified with R/B "only" for now, lol. I have some additional Info though: Number 6 BLACK almost ALWAYS calls BLACK.
And NUmber 12 almost ALWAYS calls RED.

Please feel free to improve, tweak, etc. I know this is a real Beauty. It just needs some finetuning and we have a Bet4 Life

Cheers!

[Hermes]

It was live European roulette numbers. I hate RNGs. It is wasting time to test something on RNGs. I don't think that reverse will help! Actually, I wouldn't be winning 24 bets in row if reversed. Clever progression would overcome losses. Working on it. Even master Atlantis could say something to tailored progression? Master cps10 is welcome also.
Hermes

[GLC]

System looks good - so far!!

OK tested against RNG in REAL money mode for a few hours, using the following method

@ any trigger eg 33 = bet black 1,2,4,8 STOP if all 4 lose
@ next trigger eg 3 = bet red 16,32,64,128 BUST if lose, suffer 255 unit loss

Attached file has 1370 attacks, only twice did it lose 255 units, file needs analysing to see if any specific trigger/number can be dropped ie, after which trigger did it lose mostly OR was it an even spread? will another progression work? etc etc

Will set it up on a laptop and let it run for the rest of the day.

Superman,

I am a big fan of limited martingale betting.  I too have been testing this system and am having extremely good results.  I was betting the same progression that you are, except if I lose a 1-2-4-8 series, instead of continueing on with the progression at 16-32-64-128, I go to 2-4-8-16 until I recover at which time I drop back to 1-2-4-8.  This is much less volatile and it's rare for you not to recover in the next 8 betting opportunities.  If you do lose at 2-4-8-16, just go to 4-8-16-32 and if by some total streak from hell, go to 8-16-32-64.  If you happen to lose at this level, you should probably take the 225 unit loss.  It should be very, very rare.

Once you go to the next betting level don't drop back until you are equal to or ahead of your previous high bank amount.

One final thing.  I said I was playing the way above, Ihave now started to test it using the grand martingale 1-3-7-15; 3-6-14-30; etc....  This wins much more rapidly and with a system that wins at the rate this one does, I think an aggressive betting progression is warranted.  If you happen to lose all 4 stages of this betting method, you lose 390 units, but you are winning 1 unit for every bet you place rather than 1 unit for every trigger.

Just letting you know what else is happening out there.  If we get our heads together, we may have a valid contender here. 

Thanks again Compa.

Cheers, Superman,

George

[keel44]

May I suggest if you lose 1 2 4 8 progression, which is 16 units, try flat betting 8 units until you recover.  Continue playing as normal Flat betting 8.  You would only need 2 more wins to catch up. Then return to 1 2 4 8 progression.


Compa, do you have a win/loss percentage for your system of 3000 spins?





KEEL

[Compa]

May I suggest if you lose 1 2 4 8 progression, which is 16 units, try flat betting 8 units until you recover.  Continue playing as normal Flat betting 8.  You would only need 2 more wins to catch up. Then return to 1 2 4 8 progression.


Compa, do you have a win/loss percentage for your system of 3000 spins?





KEEL

Hi KEEL. Good Idea with the Recoup-method;) Ill try that one out..

And Yes i have: 24 Sessions won and 6 lost out of the required 30.

Cheers!

[superman]

Ok Compa, we get the picture about you hating RNG but by the posts everyone is having the same results wether they are on live or rng, it's all random mate.

@ GLC am busy running it using the +1 on a loss OR win if behind, biggest draw down currently is -227 units but it does recover. Will try other progressions at some point soon.