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Matrix Turbo !

Started by buffalowizard, Feb 06, 08:32 AM 2011

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ophis

If you help me we can work on it together to make Matrix Tracker A.I.

But I need an architect ;)

You are engineer try to engineer it. Think about it deeper and show me plan. I can make anything if its defined properly. Remember programs don't have common sense... or maybe be.... common sense is called "bugs" in software terminology ;)

...yes we could do semi A.I.

Multi Systems Tracker
➨ [url="//rmst.forumer.com"]RMST.forumer.com[/url]

chrisbis

Quote from: ophis on Feb 22, 11:43 AM 2011
I................

by the way: why are you using old version with bugs?

Answers in reverse order.

Re tracker -old- ..................I'm not, I just used that tester GUI, to play around with in paint.
So no worries bro.

Yes its complicated.

No, for me U wouldn't have to change the previous outcome of the tracker, either gfraph or history wise, since the results of the tracker TO THAT POINT, would still be needed, and correct.

This is what mean.

This taken from some earlier post by BW>>>>
311
112
131
213
223
133
133
211

Then just because I want to, I silde the results, one '#Notch' to the left, here's the result>>>
(3)this number would be pushed off the Matrix......
111
121
312
132
231
331
332
11

so now U see, a completely different Matrix forms, just as though U started tracking at a different position, just one spun number later!

chrisbis

Quote from: ophis on Feb 22, 11:58 AM 2011
If you help me we can work on it together to make Matrix Tracker A.I.

But I need an architect ;)

You are engineer try to engineer it. Think about it deeper and show me plan. I can make anything if its defined properly. Remember programs don't have common sense... or maybe be.... common sense is called "bugs" in software terminology ;)

...yes we could do semi A.I.



Great. will do after my tea!!! Sausage and mash!

ophis

Quote from: chrisbis on Feb 22, 01:08 PM 2011
Answers in reverse order.

Re tracker -old- ..................I'm not, I just used that tester GUI, to play around with in paint.
So no worries bro.

Yes its complicated.

No, for me you wouldn't have to change the previous outcome of the tracker, either gfraph or history wise, since the results of the tracker TO THAT POINT, would still be needed, and correct.

This is what mean.

This taken from some earlier post by BW>>>>
311
112
131
213
223
133
133
211

Then just because I want to, I silde the results, one '#Notch' to the left, here's the result>>>
(3)this number would be pushed off the Matrix......
111
121
312
132
231
331
332
11

so now you see, a completely different Matrix forms, just as though you started tracking at a different position, just one spun number later!

ok to the left remove first numner and rewrite matrix.... but then how would you know if this "position" is better? and how about moving to right? matrix cant start with empty slot.

--1
123
321
...
Multi Systems Tracker
➨ [url="//rmst.forumer.com"]RMST.forumer.com[/url]

chrisbis

Quote from: ophis on Feb 22, 01:24 PM 2011
ok to the left remove first numner and rewrite matrix.... but then how would you know if this "position" is better? and how about moving to right? matrix cant start with empty slot.

--1
123
321
...

Why can't a Matrix start with an empty slot?
At the beginning of the Matrix, at the top, where the result does not now affect the latest outcome.

Movements.
Four of them.

Think of them as moving the tracker along on a CD in a CD player.

<<   >>

like forward and backwards.

1. move one slot to the left.
2. move two slots to the left [reveal=OR]or alternatively, have the movement limited to two moves to the left, as in 'clicking' the left slider/switch << twice.[/reveal]
3. move one slot to the right.
4. move two slots to the right [reveal=OR]or alternatively, have the movement limited to two moves to the right, as in 'clicking' the right slider/switch >> twice.[/reveal]

The whole reason for moving, is because the current (pre-movement) results, are missing there 'possible' targets probably by just one dozen/column.

By moving, the player will soon know if the tracker is performing better, by the results he/she gets , and the increasing profit figure on the tracker.
Also his BR will be getting larger!

chrisbis

Quote from: ophis on Feb 22, 01:24 PM 2011
ok to the left remove first numner and rewrite matrix.... but then how would you know if this "position" is better? and how about moving to right? matrix cant start with empty slot.

--1
123
321
...

Just as a thought.

When the tracker has been moved to the right, and it leaves an empty 'slot'....
put the letter M in the slot marker box to indicate movement has occurred.

chrisbis

I now see what Ur referring to, re empty space.
Maybe (U'll curse me for this one), make the slots for the matrix a little taller, so move results are on show.
Add one more row to the cell box.
It would be like having the row that is now not 'live'', being there just for historical reasons, since its about to Drop off the top of the cell.

edit.

Suggestion.
This is a visual one which i noticed maybe useful.

When the tracker is showing a bet to be played, ie, U put either 1,,2 or 3 above the Dozen matrix, or above the Column Matrix, could we have the indicator the be>>>>>>>>>>>

D1, D2, D3............C1, C2, C3

Its shows it more clearly which Zones the bet is to be placed, esp when Ur against the clock in getting both bets down on the felt.

chrisbis

Quote from: ophis on Feb 22, 11:58 AM 2011
If you help me we can work on it together to make Matrix Tracker A.I.

But I need an architect ;)

You are engineer try to engineer it. Think about it deeper and show me plan. I can make anything if its defined properly. Remember programs don't have common sense... or maybe be.... common sense is called "bugs" in software terminology ;)

...yes we could do semi A.I.

U can have as much help as U want buddie.  :)

ophis

the reson that there cant be empty spaces is the same as why betting is done after 3 lines have been filed.

to avoid trebles,quads etc.

if there is empty space... there can be anything.
Multi Systems Tracker
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chrisbis

I now see what Ur referring to, re empty space.

Maybe (U'll curse me for this one),
make the slots for the matrix a little taller, so more results are on show.
Add one more row to the cell box.


Would that solve the problem Ophis?  ???


It would be like having the row that is now not 'live'', being there just for historical reasons, since its about to Drop off the top of the cell.

ophis

Quote from: chrisbis on Feb 22, 02:20 PM 2011
I now see what your referring to, re empty space.

Maybe (U'll curse me for this one),
make the slots for the matrix a little taller, so more results are on show.
Add one more row to the cell box.


Would that solve the problem Ophis?  ???


It would be like having the row that is now not 'live'', being there just for historical reasons, since its about to Drop off the top of the cell.

No.

Matrix is not as high as u can see it. Data are not deleted from matrix on new data. After 300 spins there will be 100 rows (3columns) in matrix. but u only see 5 or so....

empty spaces are only problem if there would be "change" performed before 4 lines are formed.... well mayebe not problem but false data could be. because u could not determine if previous spins "empty spaces" woudnt form triple or quad.
Multi Systems Tracker
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chrisbis

So, if I read U correctly, if we 'move' the data one slot, then its almost as if we created a new start point, and poss reset the tracker.

I can see that working.
The previous data has done its job, so it would only be 'Future' and present data that is required.
The graph could be 'saved' data- automatically on 'Movements'

same with the history of numbers.

what we need is to agree a position in the cells to make that change.

How about 5 rows above the current 'Live' input line?

That puts it clear of triple & Quads.

The numbers would 'slide around, and the player would not see the end of the slide.

Its obvious we would have to reset the tracker in the same way U used t reset the CWB Tracker if U changed Modes.

Can we have a consensus (if this is a mod that everyone wants) that data held sfter 5-6 rows above the current input line is where we could have the tracker reset to?

Everyone?

What do ppl think please fellows?

maestro

chris do not you think might be better if at any given time we can see dozen and colunms for all matrix and more important lose win registry,so after certain run of L we can make human decision where we can bet..the way tracker is now is very good,thanks to ophis,but my opinion if could :thumbsup: be done to se LWregistry for all matrix at the same time that would be help..
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

chrisbis

Quote from: maestro on Feb 22, 04:04 PM 2011
chris do not you think might be better if at any given time we can see dozen and colunms for all matrix and more important lose win registry,so after certain run of L we can make human decision where we can bet..the way tracker is now is very good,thanks to ophis,but my opinion if could :thumbsup: be done to se LWregistry for all matrix at the same time that would be help..

Interesting point there Maestro.

Well, being the purest engineer that I am, I could say, we always have the human decision to take at anytime anyhow!

But of course I'm not going to say that......................cause its obvious!! ha!

So, yes I agree. But I bet that's a shed load of work for ophis.

What I'm trying to get at here is this..................

Say Player A starts the tracker at 9.00am in the morning, and his first number out of the Marquee is say #36.
His second number out is #14
His third number out is #2

That is player A starting point for the tracker= Doz 3/Col3
His matrix starts thus;-
Dozens...........Columns
  3 2 1...............3 2 2


But just 30 seconds later player B starts his tracker up over the other side of the country, using the same exact on-line wheel, and because he wants to start a-fresh, his first number out of the Marquee, is #14
His second number out is #2
His third number out is #16

Player B will have a Matrix that starts like thus:-
Dozens...........Columns
  2 1 2...............2 2 1

And, as U can see, the Matrix formation, is going to be completely different, even both players are playing the same casino results, and the same tracker!

Both players will have completely (or most prob completely) different outcomes, and one player, (it could be A or B) will win more than another.

As each player goes through their motions, inputting numbers into the tracker, one should notice a distinct lack of hitting results.

That player (in my opinion) should be able to move the tracker results along one or two slots within the Matrix, to 're-align' his matrix into a more favorable position, and therefore obtain better than previous results!

maestro

if is too much work then do not do it...we still can play this way to track L for dozen and colums by pressing auto spin and flicking in between matrix...by the way chris your idea makes sence but you cannot alwaya hit wining matrix,no matter how you flick it :thumbsup:
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

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