"I been scammed big time" A message that all members should read.

[ThomasGrant]

Good news from Mr V----

Thanks Thomas, it was what I thought.

Looks like this post has saved him from some heartache.

Lets hope more members and or Guests get to read this important message.

[esoito]

If anyone wants to have a go at this b****rd then here are some details.

But it probably won't help. He's obviously under a fictitions name!!! Look at this:

Reverse Whois:  "Thomas Smith" owns about1,911 other domains

And the so-called Ethan Gordon on the other site owns 50 other domains.




Domain ID:D36215200-LRMS
Domain Name:YOUR-CASINO-WINNINGS.INFO
Created On:04-Jan-2011 19:30:53 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Jan-2011 10:39:55 UTC
Expiration Date:04-Jan-2012 19:30:53 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com Inc. (R171-LRMS)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:CR71725612
Registrant Name:Thomas Smith
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street1:29th Place St.
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Kennewick
Registrant State/Province:Washington
Registrant Postal Code:99337
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.5096937328
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:
Admin ID:CR71725614
Admin Name:Thomas Smith
Admin Organization:
Admin Street1:29th Place St.
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Kennewick
Admin State/Province:Washington
Admin Postal Code:99337
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.5096937328
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:

[vundarosa]

Thomas,

Is this the same guy "Michael Jones [roulettemasterhack@gmail.com]"?

I've been in contact with him. Just want to clarify if its the same person since the amount is the same $500 and also have to open account at Liberty Reserve, which also got some bells ringing for me

Cheers

Vundarosa

[ThomasGrant]

Thomas,

Is this the same guy "Michael Jones [roulettemasterhack@gmail.com]"?

I've been in contact with him. Just want to clarify if its the same person since the amount is the same $500 and also have to open account at Liberty Reserve, which also got some bells ringing for me

Cheers

Vundarosa

It may be.
If he does a demo for you.
On a RNG table.
But in fun mode. Then stay away.

[darrynf]

i had a guy email a month ago, cant remember much now but he was ofering to let me play with him and i think he charge around 500, at the time i wasnt too interested (still not) cause i have my own winning system.

could be the same guy, i should of studied his game cause i have my hunch who it might be but i wont say cause i could be wrong.

he also showed a demo but the screen was covered up so i couldnt see how he was playing, not sure if it was a real or fun mode.

never pay anyone for a system, if it truly works then you dont need the money. my system would do better.

[shakeel]

thomas did you downloaded the software which he was selling ? how big is it ? can you e -mail me that software if you still have it.  i want to check that how it can work even in fun play mode ?

please e-mail me on shakeel811@gmail. com

thanks i am waiting for your reply

[ThomasGrant]

Thomas did you downloaded the software which he was selling ? how big is it ? can you e -mail me that software if you still have it.  I want to check that how it can work even in fun play mode ?

please e-mail me on shakeel811@gmail. com

thanks I am waiting for your reply

No...
Don't have it.
It's a long story.
But I have seen it in action.
Don't bother with anything that uses Liberty Reserve.
If he or anyone shows that a system works in fun mode.
Then ask for a payment from Liberty Reserve.
Run, don't walk... RUN the other way.

Look for these key words.
Only available to limited time or people.
Has an opening in your area.
If your asked to download software.
Or asked to go onto a chat.
Then asked to give numbers from your casino account.
As they appear. But only in fun mode.
If you try and trick him with real numbers.
He wont like you.
And close the deal.
If he asks for a deposit to Liberty Reserve.
Or a full or even half payment.
Get the hell out of there.

[chrisbis]

Hopefully people get the message eh Tom. 

[shakeel]

thank you so much dear thomas but please i am still interested in that software so if you or any other member of this foram found it or still have it please do sent me i want to see it an action.  and its very important for me once i will get it from some body then i will tell you my its so important for me.

thank you every body.

shakeel

[chrisbis]

My friend. I don't think Ur reading the message here.

Its a scam.

U tell us Why U want such information, then we (The Forum) will advise U of something better.

Please be as honest as U can be.

Best Regards

Chris.
(PM it if U want, or private email- chrisbis36@yahoo.com)

[ThomasGrant]

Thank you so much dear thomas but please I am still interested in that software so if you or any other member of this foram found it or still have it please do sent me I want to see it an action.  and its very important for me once I will get it from some body then I will tell you my its so important for me.

thank you every body.

shakeel

Ahh...
Perhaps you think you can figure it out.
Or how it works.
The problem there is.
It's not exactly what you think it is.
First you have to download the software for chat.
And then you give him your numbers.
He then tells you what to bet on.
So it's not software you can play with. It's a chat room.

[chrisbis]

@Tom. (This has been edited)

I have had a nice Skype chat with Shakeel and he now knows what the score is with regards to this software. I laid it all out to him.

He knows its a SCAM!!
He really does understand that now.


Maybe U can help out with his actual/real request. The reason he came here to see U.

He is looking for some/any software to use (free mind U!!), on Fun/Demo accounts,
so he can practice his ideas.

Do u know of any?
How ever small a program?
A demo version that he could use to get used to the idea of using software?

I'm not sure of any available.

But what he does not want, is THIS software from THIS scam Company.
I think he thought it would have been free to start with.

Shakeel is based in Pakistan.

Cheers.

And thanks for caring and protecting us Tom. 

[ThomasGrant]

@Tom.

I have had a nice Skype chat with Shakeel and he now knows what the score is with regards to this software.

Maybe you can help out with his real request.

He is looking for some software to use (free mind U!!), on Fun/Demo accounts, so he can practice his ideas.

Do you know of any?

I'm not sure.

Shakeel is based in Pakistan.

Cheers.

Why do people want free software to play Roulette?
The only software I have that I got for Free was Roulette Bot Pro.
But that was because I participated in the development.
The beta testing. The ideas.

Not sure what this person is after.
I already explained to all that it is not software per say.
You can ask Angela.
You have to download a chat room.
From there you are given login info.
And a two way chat service.
Then you give the scamer your numbers.
Numbers that appear on your screen in real time.
In fun mode.
He then works out what to bet on.
He never looses.
In fun mode.
Don't ask me how this is.
Because I don't know.
And I no longer care.
As soon as we tried with real numbers.
As in real rng numbers from the casino.
He knew.
Again... don't ask me how.
But he did.

The links exist in this post to his websites.
That is if they are still up.
Or look for something similar.
You are sure to find it.

What you do from there.
Is up to you.
You all have been warned.

[ThomasGrant]

Umm what happened to the first post?
I had links in it.
Was it deleted?
Did I delete it by mistake?
Anyone got a copy of the first post?

[shakeel]

Dear thomas and my friend chris, thank you so much you both are very help full.  you know thomas you are right you have to download  a chat software and have a give him 10 numbers or 12 numbers by spinning your roulette software in fun mode because a long time ago maybe one year I ahave also done this.  But I have not paid him money to get the actual software or the method whatever it is.

But it works 100% because after giving 10 or 12 numbers he told me 12 dozens to bet on and you know they were all accurate.  I think this person fails when '0' comes up otherwise his super technique works all the time in fun play mode I don't know about real money mode.  You know thomas I was thinking that after paying may be you was able to get his technique.  But now I got it that he never told you what he does.  ahhhh. . .  ok  .

Does he have any kind of roulette numbers list ? or he have some kind of mathematical formulae.  He definitely know some thing about how the software works in the fun play mode.  And it was my aim Thomas to know how.  I was thinking that may be you know some thing about it.  But its ok dear.

Thank you for being help full but I will continue my research about it that what is that farmulae which generates next spins after getting 10 numbers.  there is some thing right thomas ?

If any body get some idea after testing it lets share it here.  And off course if I will get some thing after testing I will tell you all.

take care everybody.

Shakeel