what is the perfect system

[mr.ore]

I have been thinking lately of various systems, and had an idea of "comps" system which would help stand at table and get drunk for "free". One condition for such a system - it must be not much worse than flat betting. Math tells us, that lowest probability of ruin is if we flat bet even chance, probability of winning some more units is also low, of course, but it has very low variance and last long. Now sometimes happen, that it wins more than expected because of fluctuation. We can see some of those units as "free", and bet them aggresively with progression or on higher payout location. If lucky, it wins again and we might try to capitalise. If we lose it, then as nothing happened, and we continue flat betting EC.

I know, that even "removing" a few units from winning affects a game, because losing streaks are longer, but if we only bet higher payout locations with same unit, house edge will remain same, and only variance will increase slightly. In ideal case, at worst such a system would be like flat betting EC, while allowing for a crazy win. Also, if it occasionally won some more, it could bet really agressive with high stakes, and at worst just return to expected value of flat betting EC. Would such a system be perfect?

I would do it like "if concentration of hits in last x spins >= y" then bet z units with aggresive system, if it crosses a boundary -spins/37 and countinues to win and then start losing, revert back to EC when crossing -spins/37, thus avoiding some negative runs. Just a thought...

[darrynf]

Hi crisbis,

br = best regards; not part of my name

this guy picked up two of my threads last night just to tell me it is all of not so much value Iwrote.

I´m allergic against new members telling everything is of not so much value but their own system, but they won´t explain because ........ (put in all the usual stuff they claim)

And then he comes up with "watching 30 numbers and then betting sleepers or favorites."

That doesn´t even make me laugh, it just makes me use the "Ignore-Button"

br
winkel

i said sorry to you winkel and I'm you that I was sorry, your ideas are very costly and I was wrong to put your system down.
i never said I bet sleepers or wait for something to happen.
but I understand that you are pissed at me.

i deserve that

[darrynf]

hi mr ore,

have no idea what you are saying.

[darrynf]

Hi crisbis,

br = best regards; not part of my name

this guy picked up two of my threads last night just to tell me it is all of not so much value Iwrote.

IÃ,´m allergic against new members telling everything is of not so much value but their own system, but they wonÃ,´t explain because ........ (put in all the usual stuff they claim)

And then he comes up with "watching 30 numbers and then betting sleepers or favorites."

That doesnÃ,´t even make me laugh, it just makes me use the "Ignore-Button"

br
winkel


i dont watch 30 numbers i watch 30 spins, never bet sleepers and my system dosent fall into sleepers, it dosent relie on faverits either.

so im guesing you cant read either, i get why you are pissed but if you are going to start an arguement then get your facts right mate.

[winkel]

OK, I read it wrong but I will give you a chance:

here is a list of possilble Situations of
- non hit Numbers = 0
- once hit numbers = 1
- numbers that have hit more than once = >1

pls write next to the list what you would bet and I give you the results:

0   1   >1
8   28   1
9   26   2
9   27   1
10   24   3
10   25   2
11   22   4
11   23   3
11   24   2
11   24   2
11   25   1
12   20   5
12   21   4
12   22   3
12   22   3
12   23   2
12   23   2
12   24   1
13   18   6
13   19   5
13   20   4
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13   21   3
13   21   3
13   21   3
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15   14   8
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19   6   12
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21   11   5
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22   2   13
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22   9   6
22   10   5
22   10   5
23   2   12
23   2   12
23   2   12
23   3   11
23   3   11
23   3   11
23   4   10
23   4   10
23   4   10
23   4   10
23   4   10
23   4   10
23   4   10
23   4   10
23   5   9
23   5   9
23   5   9
23   5   9
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23   5   9
23   5   9
23   5   9
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23   5   9
23   6   8
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23   6   8
23   6   8
23   6   8
23   6   8
23   6   8
23   6   8
23   6   8
23   7   7
23   7   7
23   7   7
23   7   7
23   7   7
23   7   7
23   7   7
23   8   6
23   8   6
23   8   6
24   3   10
24   4   9
24   4   9
24   5   8
24   5   8
24   6   7
25   2   10
25   3   9

If you need the fovorites more extracted just tell me

[mr.ore]

Hi, I'm thinking of a system, which is never too far from flat betting, it means there are no holes, and only if lucky, then it can have some nice winnings. For example if you win a streak of 20 reds flat betting, then you take 8 from that and play another system with that, but if it loses, it does not matter much.

Example below - it is not that much worse than flat betting red, is it?

[darrynf]

my system dosent work like that winkel, i need 30 randome numbers to begin with then you can drip feed me the numbers as i want them.

i dont go off faverits or hot or cold

[darrynf]

Hi, I'm thinking of a system, which is never too far from flat betting, it means there are no holes, and only if lucky, then it can have some nice winnings. For example if you win a streak of 20 reds flat betting, then you take 8 from that and play another system with that, but if it loses, it does not matter much.

Example below - it is not that much worse than flat betting red, is it?

i try not to relie on luck as this can go both ways, the casino tends to be luckier

[mr.ore]

There are some numbers:

2
24
19
15
26
13
10
36
29
9
35
22
27
30
11
27
29
4
32
9
28
8
10
9
32
8
36
0
17
9

[darrynf]

cheers mr ore,

i will sort them out soon, sometime today hopefully.

this is important, do you have the next 30 spins (dont put them on here yet), and all these are from the same session or table ?

[mr.ore]

Yes, I have.

[darrynf]

i will take the next 5 spins, thankyou.

[darrynf]

I will take the next 5 spins, thankyou.

I do this part to start the pattern or tracking whats hiting the most. not numbers though, repeats and new numbers.

just need the next 5 spins and i dont bet every spin either.

[darrynf]

make that 3 spins mate, im getting better with this

[mr.ore]

I will put them there one by one, then after that write your action for a next spin before I give you next spin, ok?

first number:

1