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An aproach to Kimo Li's teachings

Started by carpanta, Mar 10, 07:44 AM 2011

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carpanta

I'll try to develop a strategy to play according to Kimo Li's teachings. Hold in mind Kimo Li attempts to make roulette a speculative game bond to be skilled with a smart arreagment of the pockets along the wheel.
He divides the wheel in six sectors naming them after a number which belongs to each sector.
So we have

sector 4 goes from number 32 till 2
sector 6 """"""""""""""""""" 25 till 13
sector 8 """"""""""""""""""" 36 till 10
sector 5 """""""""""""""""""  5  till 20
sector 9 """""""""""""""""""  9  till 29
sector 7 """""""""""""""""""  7  till 26

Number 0 is put aside and does not belong to any sector.

Then most important there are six pockets in every sector. They have to do with numbers position inside each sector. We are going to call them stars as Kimo Li does.
You'll see there are 3 red stars (1,3 and 5) and 3 black stars (2,4 and 6).

Red stars:

Star 1= 32 25 36 5 14 7
Star 3= 19 34 30 16 9 12
Star 5= 21 27 23 1 18 3

Black stars:

Star 2=15 17 11 24 31 28
Star 4= 4   6   8  33 22 35
Star 6= 2  13 10 20 29 26

Such an arregment try to put an order to the wheel while we track ball movement  so as to speculate with the outcomes. This way we will pay close attention to the timing of these events recording them in 2 matrices, one for sectors and the other for stars.   

My approach will regard a Nuke movement along the wheel. Nuke movement means sectors are grouped:

4 8 9
6 5 7

As you can see each group has got 18 numbers.

Now while recording and tracking both sectors and stars in the matrices we are going to speculate with those events missing for the present time and as said above with timing for those events showing.
Despite naysayers a certain skill can be developed (my belief) to follow the flow of the outcomes with no guessing since we try to put up with the events the ball is producing expecting them to maintain for a while. When present conditions change we'll suffer bet losses and a smooth drowdown in our bankroll.

With this short example (real numbers from french roulette taken by me in a B&M Casino) matrices should look like this:

Numbers         4 8 9 / 6 5 7       Red stars / Black stars

36                      8                           1
       31               9                                              2
14                      9                           1     
14                      9                           1
36                      8                           1
32                      4                           1
23                      8                           5
3                                   7                5
25                                 6                1
30                      8                           3           
        6                           6                                    4
       29               9                                               6
1                                   5                 5
       33                                                                4
       10               8                                               6
5                                   5                 1
25                                 6                 1
       31               9                                                2
       31               9                                                2
32                      4                            1                 
       20                          5                                     6
14                      9                            1
9                        9                            3
       24                          5                                     2
        2                4                                                6
       20                          5                                     6
3                                   7                  5
1                                   5                  5
21                      4                             5
        15              4                                                2                                       
        28                          7                                    2
     0
         20                         5                                     6
32                      4                              1
16                                  5                  3
7                                   7                  1
        11               8                                                2
34                                  6                   3
         33                         5                                     4
         13                         6                                     6
          6                          6                                     4
          35                        7                                     4
          28                        7                                     2
27                                  6                   5
          11              8                                               2
27                                  6                   5
          24                        5                                     2
3                                    7                   5
3                                    7                   5
21                         4                            5
25                                   6                  1
           20                        5                                     6
       0
etc.

As you can see in either matrix i have an EC event. You must look at dominances inside each column and timing among their units. Sectors and stars tend to dissapear sometimes while the ones showing produce patterns that can be profited if one knows what to look for. As an EC there are run of chops, streaks; 1 serie between chop(s), runs of more than one serie between chop(s), etc. An skilled and patient eye can watch many interesting events falling in certain ways inside the matrices.

I expect i have given an overall idea about how to proceed with the matrixes. Bets could be placed on 4 / 6 numbers every time.

Can you detect in this example some interesting formations than could have been taken profits?

Cheers,
Carlos.

flukey luke

Thank you for posting this Carpanta.

I agree with what you are saying. In roulette, there are many games going on within the game.
It is definately a skill to be able to hunt these various patterns down. The more information you can process means the more likely you are able to ride the good trends for all they are worth. Of course they will be setbacks along the way. With good timing and sensible staking, I think this one of the few ways that you can really gain an edge over the wheel.  :thumbsup:


carpanta

Quote from: flukey luke on Mar 10, 08:20 AM 2011
In roulette, there are many games going on within the game.
It is definately a skill to be able to hunt these various patterns down. The more information you can process means the more likely you are able to ride the good trends for all they are worth.

That's right. It is like speaking different languages. The more languages you comprehend the best opportunities you'll have to understand the meaning of the broken words, sentences you are reading. All that happens in the wheel has to do with chance, of course, but apparently it seams sometimes chance has a "purpose" to sort things in a special way to let us, at least to our capacity, to understand them.

If you are skilled enough to recognize those events because you translate it to an intelligble languafe known by you or that makes sense to you then you can see if they have a continuity in time or not.
As Victor says roulette game has a dirty little secret: numbers mean nothing (they are there as labels to the pockets so as to put bets on them) but it is all about pockets, gaps or distances between pockets. The same way the felt is tricky coz it does not reflect what is happening in the field where the ball decides the fortune of the game.
Events repeat, are discontinues/broken or are missing.

In reference to Victor's wonderful post:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/vls%27-view-b57/super-zone-3/

With the clues to record and track certain events in my present post you can play an 11 gap strategy with sectors and stars altogether or a 5 gap with stars betting on whatever is overrepresented for the time being while leaving aside what is not showing.

I believe timing has to do with the frecuency but also with the secuency where and how the ball land in the different sectors and pockets (stars) on the wheel.
So tracking the where and the how is a must to try to follow the flow of the outcomes and match the timing that rules the game.

Cheers,
Carlos.


Twocando

Any help on the STAMP from Kimo?


Is it any good and how does it works?

Cheers
TCD

mogwai

Hello Carpanta and very interesting post.

I am familiar with Kimo's work, but cannot really say I see the big picture  :(

"With the clues to record and track certain events in my present post you can play an 11 gap strategy with sectors and stars altogether or a 5 gap with stars betting on whatever is overrepresented for the time being while leaving aside what is not showing."

Is it possible to post an example on this?

My Best regards

carpanta

Quote from: mogwai on Mar 11, 12:02 PM 2011
"With the clues to record and track certain events in my present post you can play an 11 gap strategy with sectors and stars altogether  or a 5 gap with stars betting on whatever is overrepresented for the time being while leaving aside what is not showing."

Hi mogwai and welcome

I'm talking about conecting sectors and stars while playing a nuke strategy.

So if you see 36 18 15 6 14 for instance it means sectors 8 9 4 are represented and they belong to the same family. Then stars 1 (36,24) and 2 (15) are neighbors so for next 5 spins you bet on 6 numbers 32 15 36 11 14 31. If the pattern has consistency you are going to have a hit. The gap among the numbers of this bet selection is 11 spacesd.

When you find something like this 32 18 2 25  13 24 5 it means star 1 is showing a frecuency of 3 hits in 7 spins. You risk a bet that it 'll continue playing star 1 (32 25 36 5 14 7) for 5/6 spins. The gap between same stars (not repeating) is 5 pockets.
I was referring to this formerly and I understand it could lead to misunderstanding.

Hold in mind Kimo Li' matrices let you record and track events. It is not a system in itself but a tool to reveal what's happening on the wheel. In the end whatever bet selection we decide it is pure speculation. Our wishes stand on having done the good one.
I expect it can help you. 

Cheers,
Carlos.

darrynf

i think i have herd of this guy, kimo.

isnt he the one who first came up with matrix idea, its a bit complicated for me but if there is a successful way of betting 4 to 6 numbers and then it has to be a winner.

has anyone made money from this ?

mogwai


carpanta

Quote from: darrynf on Mar 12, 11:34 PM 2011
I think I have herd of this guy, kimo.

isnt he the one who first came up with matrix idea, its a bit complicated for me but if there is a successful way of betting 4 to 6 numbers and then it has to be a winner.

has anyone made money from this ?

Do you know what investors do when they bet on stock options?
They speculate with the idea that if they've made the right decision some profit will show up.
Why do they put their money on certain options while desestimate others?
Surely it has to do with the tendency of the market. If it maintains a continuity they expect to make a profit. If things change they try to lose the least. The more they wait things to change again in their favour (and they dont have to)  the more their losses are growing more often than not.

With roulette it is alike. Matrices, with smart strategies around them, let you record and track events in such a way to speculate with that information. Calculations are done observing frecuency and trend consistency of the searched events to repeat while leaving aside what is not happening for the present moment.

Without hard working seeking the easy way employed by regular players (lossers) no way to claim profits. There is no easy way to win more than lose. Deep knowledge of the wheel (numbers/pockets distribution) aligned with a good strategy involving tracking events and money management makes a difference in order to succeed or not in the game.
Luck has nothing to do with being a succesful player. Luck wont make you win.

Cheers,
Carlos.



waterbenjamin


carpanta

Thanks Benjamin.
I'm not the one to show you a winning strategy.
You learnt it from the original font.  ;D

I believe Kimo Li's school has been under rated. It is a pity. Most i know which is not much comes from his teachings.
Many people reading his books about american and european roulettes wheel aren't able to grasp how worthy material they are. Maybe the method and strategies shown there are not fully undertood despite it is so well explained.

Lol You are a smart guy taking this topic back to life when a new section about randomness has been recently opened.

I believe not many forumers catch up with this topic because of its little echo. 

Actually as you know it has to do with predicting next outcomes due to recent past results.

Sometimes randomness is not so caotic. It has to pass through phases, repeating last number position (1, 2 or 3) or avoiding repetition. One thing or the other. The same with both 3 sectors each holding 18 numbers.

Both outcomes at the same time is impossible.
Obvious but important.

The problem for some players is that there is no ruled system here but dynamic tracking to produce hit and run strategy.

I expect you are doing well, benjamin.

Regards,
Carlos.


carpanta

Thanks Attila for the reminder. It is useful matrix.
It deserves a try.

Cheers,
Carlos.

albertojonas

Here we go again. Kat and I messed around a year ago with matrices from different origins. Of course kimo li's was present along with hollyman's, caballa's etc...

The point is not the use of the matrix which is a mere instrument like graphics for analysts that speculate on the stock market, the point is Kimo Li developed a System of observation of the events in order to detect trends in the future.

I must say I am very excited on the path some threads in this forum went. Hope to share good ideas and practices for the educated player.

Just a sweet speculation from the spins you posted above. At about spin 15 (nr 30) we would be left with pie 5 unhit, Star 4 & Star 6. The obvious interception ( a child could do this) gives us numbers 20 and 33 to bet.  33 comes out after 3 more spins.   ;)  then we delete the first 6 spins to speculate whether would land the next interception. We have Pie 4 and Star 2 Intercepts number 15...  ;D This Eclipses my mind...

Good Job Carpanta.

Al

carpanta

Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 15, 11:47 AM 2011
Here we go again. Kat and I messed around a year ago with matrices from different origins. Of course kimo li's was present along with hollyman's, caballa's etc...

The point is not the use of the matrix which is a mere instrument like graphics for analysts that speculate on the stock market, the point is Kimo Li developed a System of observation of the events in order to detect trends in the future.

Actually it is ALL ABOUT the matrices. Then to know how to read them in order to detect trends consistent enough to go into near future (speculation)

I must say I am very excited on the path some threads in this forum went. Hope to share good ideas and practices for the educated player.

Just a sweet speculation from the spins you posted above. At about spin 15 (nr 30) we would be left with pie 5 unhit, Star 4 & Star 6. The obvious interception ( a child could do this) gives us numbers 20 and 33 to bet.  33 comes out after 3 more spins.   ;)  then we delete the first 6 spins to speculate whether would land the next interception. We have Pie 4 and Star 2 Intercepts number 15...  ;D This Eclipses my mind...

Fine, those can be an example of educated guesses but be carefull with cold sectors and stars. They can be missing for a long time. On the other hand you can try hot stars with hot sectors, or the missing star, when the other two have already shown, for those particular segments of 3 numbers, like in this example: 36, 31, 14......30 hit (betting 19,30 and 9)



Nice to see you are trying interesting approaches. Be careful, wear appropiate sunglasses for the eclypse.  ;D

Cheers,
Carlos.

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