*PATTERN 4*

[Johnlegend]

If you're referring to BV there's no way they can read your bets after placement. See here.

Bayes you should know better. RNGS cheat period. they are designed to make sure they make a profit overall before they payout. They are no different from slot machines. Their draw on the gullible is FAST TURNOVER. They pray on the very thing that keeps casinos in business to start with HUMAN GREED and LACK OF PATIENCE.

Do you really think a casino is going to offer you a NO ZERO option if they think they will be fleeced? Let them offer a LIVE WHEEL with no ZERO. I will be the first one there.

[Bayes]

JL, unfortunately there's no way to convince someone who won't listen to reason because they've closed their mind to the evidence. To dismiss ALL RNGs as cheating is absurd. Read the actual link I posted and then tell me how BV can cheat in the way you think they are. And please don't misrepresent my view; undoubtedly some RNG do cheat, but all? How can you possibly know that? 

And why are you so sure that live wheels NEVER cheat? I can think of several ways in which they can, but this possibility is hardly ever considered because 'seeing is believing', except these days, it isn't.

The system BV has in place is a far better safeguard against cheating than anything you can merely see with your own eyes, it's just that probably most people won't understand how it works or just dismiss it without even attempting to understand it, like yourself.

[Bayes]

This debate will go on and on. If you don't trust RNG then don't play them, but it irritates the hell out of me that people casually trash them all as cheating without a shred of proof in any individual case. I get so tired of reading: 'I lost, therefore the casino was cheating'. 

[Johnlegend]

JL, unfortunately there's no way to convince someone who won't listen to reason because they've closed their mind to the evidence. To dismiss ALL RNGs as cheating is absurd. Read the actual link I posted and then tell me how BV can cheat in the way you think they are. And please don't misrepresent my view; undoubtedly some RNG do cheat, but all? How can you possibly know that?  

And why are you so sure that live wheels NEVER cheat? I can think of several ways in which they can, but this possibility is hardly ever considered because 'seeing is believing', except these days, it isn't.

The system BV has in place is a far better safeguard against cheating than anything you can merely see with your own eyes, it's just that probably most people won't understand how it works or just dismiss it without even attempting to understand it, like yourself.

Bayes you know a live wheel itself is hard enough to beat longterm. BUT, it can and is being beaten by a small minority all the time. An RNG simply isnt going to lose to any method. Twister took a method to BV that will take any live wheel down longterm if played correctly. He got read like the financial times. It produces freakish unatural results that you simpy will not see on a live wheel.

I will take live anyday of the week over software. The physics of a real ball spinning around a real wheel are far harder to tamper with. Especially as the casino would have no idea what they are trying to oppose. If you were a sector player targetting a certain part of the wheel all the time YES, YES, YES. They could interfere with your play. But a method like PATTERN 4 or CODE 4 forget it. They are over. If the player has the three essentials of success in his grasp.

[Bayes]

An RNG simply isnt going to lose to any method.

Implying that ALL RNG's wait until your bet is placed before 'choosing' the next number. BV doesn't work like this and you can prove it for yourself. Read the thread. 

Twister took a method to BV that will take any live wheel down longterm if played correctly.

That's sheer speculation, your method may have 'worked' so far for you and some others, but that in no way proves it's a long term winner.

He got read like the financial times. It produces freakish unatural results that you simpy will not see on a live wheel.

One losing streak does not prove that he was 'read'. What was this 'freakish unnatural result'? don't forget we're talking about random numbers here - anything can happen in the short term; there aren't 'natural' random numbers and 'unnatural' ones, there are just random numbers!

[Halba1]

i can confirm bayes is right. my techniques, impatience and strategy were wrong. it wasn't the RNG.

have a look at my latest system posted. I tested it in real mode +9 units. There is no way BV is reading my bets. that was flat betting also. if they were reading bets i'd be down. case closed. bayes you are correct.

[monaco]

hi Johnlegend, can i ask what units you use in each level? from what i can gather is it:

Level 1 - 1,2,4
Level 2 - 3,6,12
Level 3 - 6,12,24?

in losing scenarios, after a Level 2 loss (rare though they are!), do you do 2 at Level 3 for a 9 unit loss?
& after a Level 1 loss, 1 at Level 3, for a 1 unit loss?

cheers & continued propsperity!

[Halba1]

monaco play at L2 for 2 games, so to build a cushion, then drop to L1.

[Halba1]

Tested P4 on betvoyager non zero. still getting double losses. very immediate. no longer playing P4 over there.

[chrisbis]

I believe its only for Live tables Nihal.

Not RNG at all.

[Halba1]

I believe its only for Live tables Nihal.

Not RNG at all.

i also tested on live table. almost sameish results. you can get repeaters because it is only a combination of 8 - e.g. HHH LLL HLH etc, chances are 1/8 of getting the same.

[Halba1]

hello johnlegend.

re: live online roulette. Do we start tracking the spins as soon as we enter table, or can we use scoreboard to record the previous 9 spins and start betting immediately? thanks. how many wins do you do before quitting.

[Johnlegend]

Hi Johnlegend, can I ask what units you use in each level? from what I can gather is it:

Level 1 - 1,2,4
Level 2 - 3,6,12
Level 3 - 6,12,24?

in losing scenarios, after a Level 2 loss (rare though they are!), do you do 2 at Level 3 for a 9 unit loss?
& after a Level 1 loss, 1 at Level 3, for a 1 unit loss?

cheers & continued propsperity!

Hi Monaco I don't recommend those progressions to newbies. I was a bit premature in introducing them. Let me be Frank. Everyone on this forum is looking for a betting miracle. But they don't understand it comes at a price they aren't willing to pay. The price is TIME. Pattern BREAKER is a much better method than PATTERN 4. Doubles losses? I've never had one. But you have to wait for random to select your bet for you. And this could take anything from 21-81 spins. So the average Joe isnt prepared to wait. Even though by doing so he is certain to hit a strikerate of at least 13/1 longterm without ever having to go beyond level one. Profit is assured.

So we bring a compromise. PATTERN 4. Much faster turnover with a set betting frequency. THE PRICE? You will be hit by double losses from time to time. And you HAVE TO PLAY IT HIT AND RUN. This is the only way you can challenge the strikerate of PATTERN BREAKER.        
So you the player must decide which one is for you. Once you reach a level where a single game is worth the wait. Id choose PATTERN BREAKER everytime. Hit and RUN I own a winning streak of 112 with that method. And to speed turnover you could play three simultaneous games for all three even chances. THE TRADE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE TIME VS INVINCIBILITY. The faster the method the more you will lose for a modest risk.

If you play methods like CODE 4 and the soon to be introduced PHASE 3. You will get impressive strikerates. BUT you are risking 10 times as much. Keep these things in mind.

[monaco]

Thanks for your reply Johnlegend.. I really just wanted to clarify exactly what was entailed re. recoveries etc before trying this - (I have no problem with patience â€" I’ve tried some pretty slow grinds in my time!)

cheers again

[Halba1]

hi JL. i played live and notice quite a few double losses on PAttern 4, even playing 'hit and run' as you say. This is because only 8 possible combinations, and of course the zero