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Al says our brains are mis-wired | Roulette Pattern seeking must be an illusion

Started by 7, Jun 03, 02:42 PM 2011

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Are we all seeing what we want to see. All these RBR EOE Matrices etc trying to outwit randomness. This short lecture made me think about perceptual illusions and the concequences for a systems player.

link:://:.ted.com/talks/al_seckel_says_our_brains_are_mis_wired.html

albertojonas

if you look at a pattern being an intelligible  concept instead of a perception event none of that applies.
Notice how you always can manage to see both sides of an illusion once you are told about the other your perception normally won't see.

so if you look at a pattern being formed by chunks of any concept you create, you are constructing reality.
series per example.

Cheers
AL

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Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 03, 06:22 PM 2011
If you look at a pattern being an intelligible  concept instead of a perception event none of that applies.
Notice how you always can manage to see both sides of an illusion once you are told about the other your perception normally won't see.

so if you look at a pattern being formed by chunks of any concept you create, you are constructing reality.
series per example.

Cheers
AL

thanks Al. Though I tend to disagree, I think it is more about perceiving something that doeSn't actually exist. I'll try and explain.

A pattern in randomness surely is a mis-wired perception event, as logic suggests random to be an unpredictable event.

Our perception of a pattern RBRBRBRB say, should be corrected when we are shown the truth that this pattern is not really a pattern and is produced from randomness.

Full System theories are based on our cognitive biases that create these delusional systems. And isn't it, we are not constructing reality, the randomness is constructing the reality.

If say the B's and R's was thought of as binary 1's and 0's and after checking a few thousand spins you observed a chunk of it to read "Hi Al" would you then think that pattern was reality, no you wouldn't, you would say hey that's a spooky coincidence and forget about it. You wouldn't say, right I will devise a system around this.

This is good from Skeptic editor M.Shermer
link:://:.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things.html

albertojonas

when in binary we are applying a language, a construction of our intellect? no.

there are many languages we do not know. Safe example, dolphins, dna, foreign languages, maths, etc

the indians when first saw the portuguese boats, they did not see them in the shore. Because they never have seen a boat before.
we cannot see God or ghosts or gravity itself.
we only can see what our brain can conceptualize.
back to binary...
you can not denny that between Red and Black or 01 there is a change of state. Can you?


nice subject this one, thx.

esoito

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The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot.

It's still in print.

It's VERY well written in clear, concise English by a professional writer.

But be prepared to read just a few pages at a time.

That's because you'll want to wander off and ponder what you've just read. The concepts are extremely challenging.

You will see the world anew...

(I'm on my 15th consecutive reading and still get new insights from it. )




amk

7 Quote:


"Our perception of a pattern RBRBRBRB say, should be corrected when we are shown the truth that this pattern is not really a pattern and is produced from randomness."



There have to be patterns in the matrix.

amk




Albertojonas Quote:

"the indians when first saw the Portuguese boats, they did not see them in the shore. Because they never have seen a boat before."


Although I feel this statement is accurate how can we be sure? 

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