AAIC betting system

[LuckyLucy]

hi lucy. could you let us know which combinations(high, low, odd? etc), and how you bet thanks. give us a short example cool

my results actually started to go down - I bet like this. so i'm not proceeding with my one anymore.

ROL
    (then bet on below same)
BEL (2 loss, 1 win)

was yours like this? or different.

Hi Halba!

Not a problem, happy to share.  Group of nine spins, so the first one for example:
LLH <-------betting against this line after 9 spins
LHL
HLL

bet 11 on it being High, it came in Low   bank 500 -11 489
bet 12 on the second in that line being High, it came in Low bank -12 477
Bet 13 on the third in that line being Low, it came in  low so +13  490

As I've had a win I reset for another 9 spins:
HLH
LHL
LHL

Bet 12 against that top line, first number being Low it was +12 502, res-pin foir another 9 spins.

To be honest I had very few losses as can be seen by  the very few peaks in the line, it could be a one off I don't know, so I will have another test but on the real wheel at Super casino. But I used the same pattern stratergy, and played it with the progression and betting strategy devised by JL and had again very few losses, so looks promising!

Lucy x  

[Halba1]

Yes lucy, seems identical to pattern 4. instead of using a progression 1,2,4 units, you are using AAIC range 11 - starting at 11 and increasing 1 unit. the benefits look good, because you can bet higher units when not using a progression(as multiplying progressions can expand a lot from your base bet)

you could even do it on turbo mode like this

HLH
LHL**
LHL***
bet against HLH (no need to spin 9 spins)
bet against **
bet against***

[LuckyLucy]

I like your thinking Halba!

[LuckyLucy]

Your system is called "WELLS SYSTEM".
It's very old and,as far as I know,it killed more people than the last war.
Are you sure of its effectivness?

Ive looked into this, as I have a thirst for knowledge and i'm sorry to say you are incorrect. Wells system was the Martingale; source Google

[Halba1]

I've looked into this, as I have a thirst for knowledge and i'm sorry to say you are incorrect. Wells system was the Martingale; source Google

hi I notice you had a 9 win streak in the chart you put. does that mean you got the win on the very first letter for 9 times in a row? that's amazing but my experience is that that's a rare occurrence, sometimes you will get win on 2nd letter or 3rd letter. but mostly win on the line. if you get wins by 2nd letter, it will decrease the results.

[LuckyLucy]

Hi again

yes your right, I did keep getting a result on the first line, and first number.  Im currently on Super casino at the moment, doing a range of 1 - 13 bank roll of £100, ill let you know how I get on!

[LuckyLucy]

OK here was todays session on the real auto wheel at Super Casino:

Starting bank of £100  Range 1 - 13 starting on 7

Bet      (W)in/(L)oss                Bank
7                W                          107
6                W                          113
5                W                          118
4                W                          122
(To be honest I would have quit at this point, happy with £22 profit, but for the test continued)
3                W                          125
2                 L                           123
3                 L                           120
4                 L                           116
Reset for nine spins or continue to next line? Decided to reset for nine spins.
5                W                           121
4                W                           125
3                W                           128
2                W                           130
1                W                           131

I definitly wouldnt persue this all the way to the end of the range, the longer you are in it, the more opportunity for Random to bite you on the bum!. Once I had hit my target for the session I would exit.  But still very promising. Enough for tonight though, will have a play with this again tomorrow. 

[Halba1]

OK here was todays session on the real auto wheel at Super Casino:

Starting bank of £100  Range 1 - 13 starting on 7

Bet      (W)in/(L)oss                Bank
7                W                          107
6                W                          113
5                W                          118
4                W                          122
(To be honest I would have quit at this point, happy with £22 profit, but for the test continued)
3                W                          125
2                 L                           123
3                 L                           120
4                 L                           116
Reset for nine spins or continue to next line? Decided to reset for nine spins.
5                W                           121
4                W                           125
3                W                           128
2                W                           130
1                W                           131

I definitly wouldnt persue this all the way to the end of the range, the longer you are in it, the more opportunity for Random to bite you on the bum!. Once I had hit my target for the session I would exit.  But still very promising. Enough for tonight though, will have a play with this again tomorrow. 

thanks 22 pounds. not bad. i tried that casino, it lags too much on my connection. but it should work most places.

imo random will get you back. it can even give multiple losses(even though you call it correct the lines are not same).

[Red Nickels]

The beauty of this system is that if you have won more bets than you lost and could maintain it,  BY EVEN ONE BET, YOU CAN'T LOSE

......... huh?  yes if you won more bets than you lost, by even one bet, you can't lose.

[LuckyLucy]

Well I had one final session last night and it didnt go quite so smoothly. While I didnt lose my bank roll, it was very choppy, sort of win/lose/win/win/lose/win/lose/lose

So maybe the earlier tests were infact luck. Maybe needs some tweaks or more likely this system, doesnt tie in too well with the pattern. I do think it holds promise though and could be applied to another system. Oh well enjoyed testing it

[Halba1]

yeah it evens out to 50/50. thats why ppl use code 4 and other systems, because they can still be right on the line even if 3/4 are wrong.

[Red Nickels]

I am interested in adapting this method for playing baccarat (mini-bac.)  banker always has a slight edge over player (due to the 3rd card draw rules for banker and player-- which is why the casino charges a 5% commission on winning banker bets) and I want to bet that within 60 hands (about the size of a mini-bac shoe-- maybe a little less) that player won't win twice as many bets as banker as this would be very unusual for most shoes.  so the idea is I would be betting banker every hand and would pay .25 every $5 won.  I want to play range 20 because I am betting that player won't reach 40 outcomes while banker only reaches 20 outcomes within 60 decisions.  if I understand the system correctly, as long as player doesn't win 20 more bets than banker within 60 hands (player 40, banker 20), I should be safe if I use the money management system called for, correct?

before I can test this out (with a simulated baccarat game), I need to understand how much I would actually be betting every hand.  where I can play mini-bac the minimum bet is $20 and you have to increase or decrease bets in $5 increments (because that is the only way the casino will keep track of commissions owed where I could play-- .25 per every $5.)  so, if I am to adapt the system to single units and every unit is $5, the beginning of the range would have to start at 4 (units= $20), correct?  and if I want to use a range 20 do I have to go up to 30 something and start at 19 or 20 ($100 starting bet) and the bust-out would be around $3000? (starting at 4/$20, 5/$25, 6/$30 etc all the way up to around $170 or so final bet.)  at these bet sizes I expect that the system will win a few hundred every shoe for many shoes till the unusual shoe comes around where player outnumbers banker 2 to 1 so if that is the case I am willing to bring 3K to the mini-bac table every time (if the expected wins will total more long-term than the occasional bust-out.)

electronic baccarat games will deal hands in actual baccarat expectation and deduct the commission on winning banker bets (or one could follow live baccarat online, but the electronic games are easier to control for testing purposes.)  I want to test the system with a range 20 but right now I am getting lost as to where the range of units should start and end for my purposes (which I would multiply x 5 to get actual dollar cost-- start at unit 4?) and where would my first midway bet start at in units and US dollar cost? (then I'll figure out what the bust out cost is.)  I want range 20 (or whatever works to bet that player won't reach 40 and banker will only reach 20 within 60 hands) and my constraints are that the the  minimum bet has to be $20, and I must increase or decrease my bets in $5 increments only (happy to pay the 5% commission if I am leaving with profits.)  if I could get some help in how to start testing this system with these constraints so I would know what I would be in for and what the actual bets would have to be if I was to play mini-bac this way, I would appreciate it.  thanks!  (hey, it could be the holy grail we're all looking for!)

to summarize my question, if I start out at 4 units, what is the last unit in the range and what is the midway unit value I start betting at for my first bet, if I want to bet that the side I am backing won't lag behind more than 20 decisions, and if I have to start with a minimum $20 bet and can only go up or down by $5 each bet?  and/or is there another way to play this system with these constraints?

[Tomla021]

mr nickels don't worry just go do it---winning is possible with bumps

[Red Nickels]

Mr nickels don't worry just go do it---winning is possible with bumps

.......... I don't know what that means.

apparently the statement in the description of this system that says if you bet for example range 11 "This means that if you never lose 11 bets more than you win you can't lose" is not true or else I am just not understanding what that means, and apparently the poster of the system even thinks it's a bit of a scam and not a good system so I don't even know why the system was posted, only to waste my/our time thinking about it (I could post hundreds of bad systems or point to links of hundreds of bad systems and/or you could find hundreds or thousands of bad systems at these message boards-- or shall we say well-intentioned but misguided systems that unfortunately will not work-- but if you already know a system is no good, why post it??  well to give the benefit of the doubt, maybe it was determined after this system was posted that it apparently does work as described or just was not a good system for whatever reasons.)  (like most all of them, unfortunately.)

[Red Nickels]

Ok I am going to answer my own question (since no one else will.)  to adapt this system to baccarat, where my minimum bet has to be $20 and I have to increase or decrease bets in $5 increments, to bet range eleven I will write down the numbers 4 (x5=$20) to 24 (last bet is $120), and my starting bet will be at 14 which means 14 x 5= $70.  betting banker only, if in 20 hands I win 10 bets and lose 10 bets (which is likely) this system will deliver a profit.  now what can't happen is that I lose more than 11 bets than I won or I will lose the bankroll required which in this case totals $1470 (20+25+30.... up to 120.)

could someone answer the following question?-- does that mean that:

if I have already lost 10 bets (won 10/lost 10), I cannot lose even one more bet (total 10 bets won and 11 bets lost to bust-out), OR does it mean that I would have to lose 11 more bets to bust out (total 21 bets lost, 10 bets won to lose)?

if my bankroll busts by winning 10 and losing 11 then the system is worthless.  if the bankroll busts by winning 10 and losing 21 then I am not quite ready to give up on this system, because the banker bet has a positive mathematical expectation over the player bet, thus the system could possibly be utilized for betting on banker only.