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Started by Gizmotron, Jun 12, 07:23 PM 2011

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Gizmotron

Quote from: carpanta on Jun 16, 12:04 PM 2011
In Gizmotron's former example he showed how playing singles all the time let him go through a 100 spin session without having to use 7&7 to recover losses.
All the time the progression achieved a hit.

Just want to make one thing very clear. Singles are when there are few repeats. Like this:

| X     | -- 1
|     X | -- 2
|     X | -- 3
|   X   | -- 4
| X     | -- 5
| X     | -- 6
|   X   | -- 7
|     X | -- 8
|   X   | -- 9
| X     | -- 10


When it doesn't look like that then that is the best time to use the Follow the Last progression.

More like this:

|     X | -- 1
|     X | -- 2
| X     | -- 3
| X     | -- 4
| X     | -- 5
|   X   | -- 6
| X     | -- 7
| X     | -- 8
|     X | -- 9
|     X | -- 10
|     X | -- 11
| X     | -- 12
| X     | -- 13
|   X   | -- 14
|     X | -- 15
| X     | -- 16
| X     | -- 17
|   X   | -- 18
| X     | -- 19
| X     | -- 20
| X     | -- 21
| X     | -- 22

I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

Gizmotron

Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 16, 12:53 PM 2011
where did I get this.? no it does not. Any Advice?

1.) Are you trying to run this Windows app on your Mac OS?

2.) Does it run in Windows mode on your Mac OS?

3.) If it does, are you having trouble pasting the spins into my software?

If you answer these questions I suppose I could go back and make a fix to the software. I need an answer to all three questions, please.
I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

albertojonas

that is understood!

by the example you only consider repeat a series of three or more in a row.

Lets take as an example a sample were singles are overrepresented.

i bet in this event a lot. For me this means "Singles Vs Larger Series"

and to be objective,
after i meet my condition for betting which is a measurable imbalance and not a "raw read"
(don't take this as a negative criticism)

i continue to observe the distribution to unfold looking for an indication that it is changing state
(as described a few posts before)

i place a bet as soon as i find a series of four hoping that it will become a series of five.
if i loose this bet i wait for a series of three and proceed.

this is just an example of my usual procedure!

What's yours?
Do you use any way of observing that imbalance?

Cheers,
Al
O0

albertojonas

Quote from: Gizmotron on Jun 16, 01:02 PM 2011
1.) Are you trying to run this Windows app on your Mac OS?

2.) Does it run in Windows mode on your Mac OS?

3.) If it does, are you having trouble pasting the spins into my software?

If you answer these questions I suppose I could go back and make a fix to the software. I need an answer to all three questions, please.

Dear Gizmotron

thank you for your solicitude

1&2) I run the program under emulation in Mac Os Snow Leopard

3) The program works great so far. The problem is to get spin data separated by commas.
Which I thought Random.org delivered but in fact it does not.
So I enter them manually.

Cheers,
AL

Gizmotron

Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 16, 01:12 PM 2011
(don't take this as a negative criticism)

I'm not. I think I'm having difficulty communicating what I mean. I've seen this before with my individual chats with students.

Here are some things to clear up. I look for pure stretches of no repeats(singles). This situation kills the progression, so I flat bet the opposite of follow the last. The same goes for a sleeping dozen. I flat bet the other two until it ends. I do this because I'm covering more of the board for each bet. Also sleepers and singles are common stretches.

When I bet the progression I'm looking far any repeats that come. So the chart can be full of just one repeats, (in series - that's doubles). You only need one repeat to win the progression on the one dozen at a time bets.
I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

carpanta

Thanks Gizmotron.

I believe it should be understood by now.

That's why i suggested that chart with 2 columns, one for repeats (series) and the other for chops (singles), so people without your dexterity for tracking these opposite events could understand better what you want to teach.

Cheers,
Carlos.

Gizmotron

Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 16, 01:15 PM 2011
3) The program works great so far. The problem is to get spin data separated by commas.
Which I thought Random.org delivered but in fact it does not.
So I enter them manually.

Still that's faster than entering them one at a time and then hitting spin.

You can use a simple text editor to replace things like line returns with commas. You can also replace empty space with nothing. A text editor can really cut down the conversion time. And, it won't add rich text formats to it when you copy it to the clipboard. Notepad is good enough for these conversions.

Here is another feature: You can select lines to copy and different segments of the chart too.

Do this once you have a chart going:

Enter 22 <FromTo> 41 and press the Copy Lines button. That will strip out lines 22 to 41 of the full chart, if there are at least 41 lines to copy from.

Now try this:  add LMH, to the text entry box just to the right. This will copy lines 22 to 41 of the L M H section only. You must include the comma.

LMH,
123,
BR,
LH,
OE,

I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

albertojonas

Quote from: Gizmotron on Jun 16, 01:40 PM 2011
Still that's faster than entering them one at a time and then hitting spin.

You can use a simple text editor to replace things like line returns with commas. You can also replace empty space with nothing. A text editor can really cut down the conversion time. And, it won't add rich text formats to it when you copy it to the clipboard. Notepad is good enough for these conversions.

Here is another feature: You can select lines to copy and different segments of the chart too.

Do this once you have a chart going:

Enter 22 <FromTo> 41 and press the Copy Lines button. That will strip out lines 22 to 41 of the full chart, if there are at least 41 lines to copy from.

Now try this:  add LMH, to the text entry box just to the right. This will copy lines 22 to 41 of the L M H section only. You must include the comma.

LMH,
123,
BR,
LH,
OE,



thanks again Gizmotron.

Gizmotron

Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 16, 01:12 PM 2011
i place a bet as soon as I find a series of four hoping that it will become a series of five.
if I lose this bet I wait for a series of three and proceed.

this is just an example of my usual procedure!

What's yours?
Do you use any way of observing that imbalance?

I look for the global trend. If it's bouncing in and out of both types of conditions then it's much too choppy. There are far more stable conditions if you just wait for them.
I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

albertojonas

Quote from: Gizmotron on Jun 16, 01:45 PM 2011
I look for the global trend. If it's bouncing in and out of both types of conditions then it's much too choppy. There are far more stable conditions if you just wait for them.

any number of events? What indicates the "global" character of the trending?

Gizmotron

Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 16, 01:55 PM 2011
any number of events? What indicates the "global" character of the trending?

Reply #20 on: June 15th at 04:08:54 pm; This Thread.
I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

superman

Hi Gizmotron, always enjoyed reading your threads/posts, I agree random comes out in segments of singles, short series, medium sries etc, you can clearly see it on any marquee that aligns results according to colour, left red right black, but the burning question I have for you is over how many spins do you make your decision as to which way it currently is? your guides above have 20 spins, is that what you use, 20? or does the 20 give you a better overall picture and you measure it on less, visualy.

The reason I ask is, I have, about a year ago, setup the bot to count lenghts of any ec, doz, col coming out, for even chances the average visual series effect was around 18 - 25 spins, watching the high numbers versus low numbers of red/black runs, press reveal to see a 70 spin sample, line 6 to 29 is a good example of series on the go, 30 to 50 shows opportunity for single play, Opposite to last, 53 - 67 offers the opportunity to SAL, if you expand it you can visually see whats happening

[reveal].1
.1
.1
.1
.1
..2
.1
....3
..2
.1
..2
.1
.1
..2
.1
....3
....3
..2
.1
..2
.1
......4
.1
.1
..2
..........6
.1
....3
..2
.1
.1
.1
..2
.1
.1
.1
..2
..2
.1
.1
..2
.1
.1
.1
....3
.1
.1
..2
.1
.1
..2
..2
....3
.1
..........6
.1
..2
..2
..2
....3
..........6
.1
.1
......4
.1
.1
..2
.1
.1
..2[/reveal]

Good thread mate
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Gizmotron

Quote from: superman on Jun 16, 02:19 PM 2011
Hi Gizmotron, always enjoyed reading your threads/posts, I agree random comes out in segments of singles, short series, medium sries etc, you can clearly see it on any marquee that aligns results according to colour, left red right black, but the burning question I have for you is over how many spins do you make your decision as to which way it currently is? your guides above have 20 spins, is that what you use, 20? or does the 20 give you a better overall picture and you measure it on less, visualy.

You can see it better in my hand written charts that I keep while I play. The Marquee does not show the columns or the dozens. I cut my teeth on 300 spin sessions. So I expect to see a good patch every 100 spins. It makes no sense to expect a favorable condition just because you recently arrived at a table. 20 spins is not enough. On the other hand, if you walk up to a sleeping dozen or a stretch of singles then by all means take a chance on them.
I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

vladir

I'm sorry, but there is just one thing that I don't get...

Let's asume I was having a streak of series and I started playing Follow the Last. But then, the singles come up, unexpectadly... I go to 7 & 7 and loose. What you do here? You take the loss? Or how do you know when to stop playing?
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

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