Even Chance Tour De Force

[GLC]

I have been thinking about the best way to present this system.

This is a complete system designed to give you the power to win 1 unit as many times as you wish.

I know that many on this forum will disagree with this, but I think it will work on any reputable on-line casino.  You should probably log off and on periodically so they don't zero in on you.  We can never trust them.  I hate to say it, but I consider casino operators to be
little more than gangsters; on-line or brick and mortar.  Maybe some aren't but most are.

This system is based on the power of multiplication.  We will be using our money but also the casino's money. 

It is based on the parlay method of betting.  The idea is to bet 1 unit and if you win, bet 2 units (that's 50/50 with the casino), if you win bet 4 units (that's 25/75 with the casino), if you win, bet 8 units (that's 12.5/87.5 with the casino), if you win, bet 16 units (that's 6.25/93.75 with the casino).

So, given the right spin sequence, we can bet 1 unit and win 31 units from the casino.  Okay, that means we have to win 5 times in a row.  This is a common occurrence, although there is a small risk that there can be a sizable gap between 5-in-a-row wins.  Fortunately, we don't always have to win 5-in-a-row to win our 1 unit.

To lose our progression, we will have to go as many as 300+ bets without winning 5-in-a-row.  It could be fewer and it could be more.

This is an Even Chance system and as such it can be played on any even chance game.  I don't suggest Blackjack since it's not a true even chance game, but BJ may work also taking into consideration the doubles and splits.

With our bet selection method, we will be looking for 6 patterns that will give us our 5-in-a-row.  Those sequences are: RRRRRR, BBBBBB, RBRBRBRB, BRBRBRBR, BRRBBRRBBR, RBBRRBBRRB.  That's it.  If any of these pattern come up, we will win 5 times in a row.

I have detailed the bet selection method in other posts but I will go over it here.  You can use this one or one of your preference.  It must be a method that catches back to back wins.  Some of the methods that are seeking for 1 win in 4 or maybe 5 bets will not perform well on this method.

Play follow-the-last 80% of the time. 

You switch from FTL if you get RBR or BRB then you play opposite-the-last.  Play OTL until you get BB or RR and then go back to FTL. 

One other pattern you play for is doubles.  If you get RBBRR or BRRBB you bet that the doubles will continue.  Bet this way until you have a loss.  When you have a loss you will have a BRB or RBR so bet OTL until you get RR or BB at which time you will revert back to FTL.  That's it.  Sweet and simple.

Progression:

This is what makes this system so powerful. 

Math guys.  Please feel free to blast this method with everything you have.  I want everyone who plays this to be absolutely convinced in their own mind that this will work in spite of the mathematics against it.

As I said, the progression is based on the parlay or let-it-ride concept. 

It is based on letting it ride 5 times. 

The powerful thing about this 5 step parlay is that we're not just betting each time until we reach 5 wins and then take our profits, we're only going to bet as many steps as necessary to reach +1. 

Anytime we reach +1 we will reset our progression to our 1st 1 unit bet.

In the beginning, we will only have to bet the 1st 1 unit bet 1 time.  If it wins.  +1 - Re-set.

If we lose our 1st 1 unit bet, we bet our 2nd 1 unit bet and if we win the first bet, we will be even and can once again start over.

We are going to buy in for 300/dollars units.  Let's say our unit is $1.  That means that all we have to do is win 3 units every day for 100 days or 100 attacks and we will have 600 units/dollars. 

We will play for $1 units for 100 wins, 3 more times.  When we have won 4

times we will have $1500.  Set one $300 bank aside. 

Combine the other $1200 into two $600 banks.  This gives us 2 opportunities to win 100 days/attacks at $2 per unit.  Play at $2 per unit until you have five banks of 300 units at $2 each or $600 per bank. 

From here, you can do what you like.  But, always leave a reserve bank or two in case the unimaginable happens.

The progression will be detailed in the next post.

GLC

[GLC]

Okay, here's the progression. 
First I will write the number of units to bet and then the number of times to bet before we reach a new high and finally the number of units you will be ahead.


Bet Amt    # times to bet    Amt ahead if win


1                    1X                +1
1                      1X                 0
1                    2X                +1
1                    2X                0
1                       3X                +3
1                    3X                +2
1                    3X            +1
1                    3X            0
1                       4X                +7
1                    4X           +6
1                    4X           +5
1                    4X           +4
1                    4X           +3
1                    4X           +2
1                    4X           +1
1                    4X            0
1                    5X               +15     From now on to recover totally, you must win 5 bets in a row

continue to bet 1 for 14 more times.  After starting a parlay series by betting 1 for 31 times, we move to betting 2 to start our parlay series.


Bet 2 for 16 times.
Bet 3 for 10 times.
Bet 4 for 8 times.
Bet 5 for 6 times.
Bet 6 for 5 times.
Bet 7 for 5 times.
Bet 8 for 4 times.
Bet 9 for 3 times.
Bet 10 for 2 times.


If you lost the whole progression, you would lose 302 units.


I have tested this 10 times to +10 units and I've never gotten beyond the parlays that start with 1 unit.


We have a lot of flexibility with this system.  We never have to bet beyond the 2nd, 3rd or 4th win.  If we are betting starting with our 1st 6 unit series, we will be -164.  If we win our first bet, 6+6=12 and we win our 2nd bet, 12+12=24, and we win our 3rd bet 24+24=48.  If we get cold feet, we can subtract our initial 6 unit bet from 48 and we have won 42 units.  We can subtract our 42 from 164 leaving us at -122.  We were at -122 we would be betting our 7th 4 unit parlay.  That means that we could move back down our progression line 8 steps.  This would give us a little more breathing room.


Or you can go for 5 in a row and hope to recover all before it loses all 90 levels of the progression line.


Option #1:


Only play at the 1 unit level.  That means we are going to risk only 32 units.  You'll be surprised how rarely you ever have to go beyond the 1 unit level before winning your +1 unit.


If you lose 31 units, double the value of your units and play again.  If you win 32 units at the doubled amount, you will have recovered your initial loss and be up 31 units.  Now drop back to your original unit size.  If you contintue to lose, play the modified fibonacci progression. 1-2-3-5 and stay at 5 until you finally break even.  I can't imagine ever getting as high as 5, but maybe?


Option #2:


Stop at the 3 unit level.  That's 93 units at risk.


Option #3:


Buy in for 5,000 units mirroring Winkel's "Win as much as you want betting strategy".  Continue the progression line as far as you can for 5,000 units.  If you test this a little, you'll see that it's butting up against impossible to lose 5,000 units playing this way.  Not absolutely impossible, but close.


If playing option #1 or #2, why not wait for a trigger like 3 losses in a row and then start betting.  You might hit your +1 with fewer bets.


That's it.  You either play for a 1 unit win each day or you can play multiple times each day.  Just take a short break if you play multiple times. 


Or you be the boss.  Practice it and decide how you like to play it and have fun.  With a modicum of luck you should never see red with this system.


Test, Test, Test!  Start small and build your bank gradually.  Patience is a virtue.


George


   

[GLC]

Another 10 sessions to +10 and yet to have to start a parlay with anything but a 1 unit bet.


That's 200 units up playing on  0/00 demo game on Betvoyager.  That means if I were playing Option #1, I would have risked 31 units 20 times and I still have my original bank. 


Super lucky?  I don't know yet.  I just started testing.  Time will tell.


Another option I take is if I've parlayed and am about to make the bet that will put me ahead, I only bet enough to give me +1.


Here's an example:


r
r  bet first 1 on r on the next spin
b  lose  -1 bet  2nd 1 on b
r  lose -2  bet 3rd 1 on b (remember rbr and we play for chops)
r  lose -3  bet 4th 1 on r
b  lose -4 bet 5th 1 on b
b  win  -3  bet parlay of 2 from 5th 1 on b
b  win  -1  next bet should bet parlay of 4 from 5th 1, but we only need 2 for +1 so only bet 2
b  win +1  Re-set and bet first 1 on b
etc...


This may not look like a big deal and it may not be helpful at low numbers, but it helps recover quicker at times.  Maybe it's being too cautious, but I like being "safe".  I've been "sorry" way too many times in my life.  Victor calls it "conscious betting".


I'm going to keep testing this one until it proves to me that it's not a long-term winner.  So keep your eyes on this topic just in case it holds up as well as I think it might.


I'm also interested in seeing how my Options #1 and #2 perform.  If I can keep from losing more than 3 in a row to +100, this may be the stone, cold mortals.


Remember, I think the power of this system is that it's based on using the casino's money seeking a win.


Also, the bet selection method is looking for 4 different sequences to win 5-in-a-row.  I think this gives us a better shot at it over just betting say Red or Black.  Just betting the same all the time means that you can't win on anything but 5 colors in a row.  The other color and the chop sequences;  BRRBBRRBBR or RBRBRBRB are losers in that case.


GLC

[GLC]

I just won 3 more sessions to +10.


All were what I call hard fought.


1st session I went to the 30th 1 unit series.
2nd session I went to the 10th 2 unit series.
3rd session I went to the 3rd 2 unit series.


Even at the 10th 2 unit point I was only down 51 units.


That's the most I've been down so far.


The 3rd session I tested the "Same/Opposite on FTL" to see how it would perform.
I didn't like it that much.  Although, it wasn't horrible.


All I know is that I still won all 3 sessions to 10 which is 3.33 times more than I'm suppose to play for.


Good night,


GLC

[marivo]

It is somewhat more complex system but understandable and that's great. Let's try it.

[Phishalot]

Thanks for the method. Really like it. Tryed it with ever even bet I could think of with less than 2% house edge. Works realy well.
Just one question. We are playing for a one unit win.
Let us say that we are down 10 units.
We win this seires
First 1 unit bet, win we are at -9
Second 2 unit bet, win  we are at -7
Third  4 unit bet, win we are at -3
Fourth bet Do we double to 8 or only bet 4 to give us the one unit win?

[GLC]

Thanks for the method. Really like it. Tryed it with ever even bet I could think of with less than 2% house edge. Works realy well.
Just one question. We are playing for a one unit win.
Let us say that we are down 10 units.
We win this seires
First 1 unit bet, win we are at -9
Second 2 unit bet, win  we are at -7
Third  4 unit bet, win we are at -3
Fourth bet Do we double to 8 or only bet 4 to give us the one unit win?

That's a personal choice my friend.


I just bet enough to get to +1.  If you win the bet at 4 units, you forfeit the 4 extra units you would have won had you bet 8.  But, if you had lost, you saved yourself 4 units and can actually stay at the same level for the next attack.


This helps keep your bets smaller somewhat.  It may not make enough difference to give up the extra units.  Like I said we will each have to decide what we like most.


One other point.  I notice that Fripper has re-opened his "Beating roulette with math" system.  I like that system and am not saying anything negative about it, but if we carried this bet progression out to a 1500 unit bank, would it ever lose?


I don't have that answer.  But, just like he said, it probably will at some place and time but how far ahead of the game will we be when it happens.


I think it's probable that for a lot of us if we invested 1500 units in a lot of these systems we might never lose all 1500 units.


If any of you want to test this with a 1500 unit bankroll, I am going to post the progression in the next post.

[GLC]

Here is the progression for winning 5 times in a row.  Anytime you win five times in a row starting at a new level, you will be at a new high point and should re-set to the 1st level.


Just so we're all clear on this bet progression, it is a martingale based on winning 5 parlays in a row.


There are 139 levels.  The following chart gives us the number of units we are down at each level (A), the 1st bet size at each level (B) and the number of units we win if we win all 5 parlays (C).


Here goes:


A   B   C
-1   1   +31
-2   1   +30
-3   1   +29
-4   1   +28
-5   1   +27
-6   1   +26
-7   1   +25
-8   1   +24
-9   1   +23
-10   1   +22
-11   1   +21
-12   1   +20
-13   1   +19
-14   1   +18
-15   1   +17
-16   1   +16
-17   1   +15
-18   1   +14
-19   1   +13
-20   1   +12
-21   1   +11
-22   1   +10
-23   1   +9
-24   1   +8
-25   1   +7
-26   1   +6
-27   1   +5
-28   1   +4
-29   1   +3
-30   1   +2
-31   1   +1
-33   2   +31
-35   2   +29
-37   2   +27
-39   2   +25
-41   2   +23
-43   2   +21
-45   2   +19
-47   2   +17
-49   2   +15
-51   2   +13
-53   2   +11
-55   2   +9
-57   2   +7
-59   2   +5
-61   2   +3
-63   2   +1
-66   3   +30
-69   3   +27
-72   3   +24
-75   3   +21
-78   3   +18
-81   3   +15
-84   3   +12
-87   3   +9
-90   3   +6
-93   3   +3
-97   4   +31
-101   4   +27
-105   4   +23
-109   4   +19
-113   4   +15
-117   4   +11
-121   4   +7
-125   4   +3
-130   5   +25
-135   5   +20
-140   5   +15
-145   5   +10
-150   5   +5
-155   5    0
-161   6   +31
-167   6   +25
-173   6   +19
-179   6   +13
-186   6   +7
-192   6   +1
-199   7   +25
-206   7   +18
-213   7   +11
-220   7   +4
-228   8   +28
-236   8   +20
-244   8   +12
-252   8   +4
-261   9   +27
-270   9   +18
-279   9   +9
-288   9    0
-298   10   +22
-308   10   +12
-318   10   +2
-329   11   +23
-340   11   +12
-351   11   +1
-363   12   +21
-375   12   +9
-388   13   +28
-401   13   +15
-414   13   +2
-428   14   +20
-442   14   +6-
-457   15   +23
-472   15   +8
-488   16   +24
-504   16   +8
-521   17   +23
-538   17   +6
-556   18   +20
-574   18   +2
-593   19   +15
-613   20   +27
-633   20   +7
-654   21   +18
-676   22   +28
-698   22   +6
-721   23   +15
-745   24   +23
-770   25   +30
-795   25   +5
-821   26   +11
-848   27   +16
-876   28   +20
-905   29   +23
-935  30   +25
-966   31   +26
-998   32   +26
-1031  33   +25
-1065   34   +23
-1100   35   +20
-1136   36   +16
-1170   37   +11
-1208   38   +8
-1247   39   +1
-1288   41   +24
-1330   42   +14
-1373   43   +3
-1418   45   +22
-1465   47   +39
-1513   48   +23


Sorry about the columns lining up poorly, but you can see it clearly enough.


The reason I wanted to give you the whole chart is so you can make some conscious decisions.


For example:  If you are at the 20th level and you have won 20X2=40, 40X2=80, 80X2=160, 160X2=320 you have a decision to make.  Do you bet for the 5th win and have 640 units and completely recover or would it be better to back up to the 1st 10 which is where 613-320=293 would put you. 


Personally, I would move back to the 1st 10 level which gives me another 22 levels before I'm back to the 1st 20 level.


I may have even moved back after the 80x2=160 win. I could move back to the 1st 15 level.


In other words, if you are having a streak from you know where, you can always choose to not bet all the way to the 5th parlay if you win 3 or 4 parlays and you're very close to the end of our bet progression.


Also, if you only play until you are at a new high, you won't play for 5 parlays on the 1st 15 levels of  1 units bets because you won't need to to be at a new high.


If you think about this progression for a while, you will see that it gives you a lot of options to keep from ever losing your entire 1500 units.


I have a series of 20,000 continuous spins from the same wheel at Casino Macao.  I think that I will start playing this system on those spins and see how far I can go before I lose the entire bank.  I have to play until I'm at a new high before I can reset.  In other words, no conscious decisions.  Straight 5 step parlays except for the initial 1 unit bets when I can reach a new high without having to bet all 5 parlays.


I'll keep you posted.


GLC

[Colbster]

This took me a little bit to wrap my puny brain around, but now I see how brilliant it is!     You are right about how versatile your bet selection is, changing to the table to maximize opportunities to snag one of the patterns you have outlined in your description.  I played my first legit round tonight up to the +10 unit stop-point and was impressed at how quickly it came.

I have a date with the Sandman here in a few minutes, but I will revisit this method through the upcoming week.  I have a great feeling about this - nicely done!

[GLC]

Phishalot, Matrivo, Colbster,  nice to see some interest from you guys.


I need some new brains looking at this.  Mine's a little old, but still works pretty good.


I do think there's a lot of possibilities with this concept.


Not sure I've come up with the best use of it, probably not.


Let's see if it has any legs!


I'm not married to any part of it.  Progression, bet selection method, their just the 1st way I thought of.


LOL,


GLC

[catalyst]

Mine's a little old, but still works pretty good.

Peoples say Old is Gold but I say you are Diamond for Even Chances !

you have proved it again!
thanks
catalyst

N.B. Could you please explain a bit more regarding the bet selection for this system.

[catalyst]

The 3rd session I tested the "Same/Opposite on FTL" to see how it would perform.
I didn't like it that much.  Although, it wasn't horrible.

could you please explain how you did this bet selection?
thanks
catalyst

[GLC]

Peoples say Old is Gold but I say you are Diamond for Even Chances !

you have proved it again!
thanks
catalyst

N.B. Could you please explain a bit more regarding the bet selection for this system.

We have 3 basic patterns we're playing for.  In all 3 we're looking for repeats.  We can use any of the even chances, but I'll use Red/Black for explanation.


1.  Our main pattern is Follow the last color. 
2.  Our 2nd pattern is if we get 2 chops such as RBR or BRB.  Anytime we get this pattern, we continue to follow the chops.  We go back to follow the last color on our 1st loss.
3.  Our 3rd pattern is if we get doublets such as RBBRR or BRRBB.  Anytime we get this pattern, we continue to follow the doublets.  On our 1st loss, we will start betting for chops because we will have a RBR or BRB pattern like this: BRRBBRRBR or RBBRRBR.


That is the bet selection method I have been using.  It does well finding streaks.


There's the killer pattern that we could jump on which is BRRBRRBRRB.  We lose every bet on this pattern once we're in it.  I've been thinking of adding it to the 3 above patterns.  We could start it at the end of a chops pattern like this BRBRBRR. With the last Red we have lost our chops pattern and would normally return to betting follow the last but we could instead start betting for our killer pattern like this BRBRBRRBRRBRRB.


All of this pattern seeking is really preference only.  Another way that's easier and probably just as effective is to play the penultimate (same as 2nd to last color) and if you get 4 losses in a row it's because you are having doublets RRBBRR and as long as they continue you will lose every bet.  After 4 losses in a row you can switch to betting opposite the penultimate until a loss and then switch back.


We can use any of the even chance systems on the forum.  If there's one you like such as Pattern 4 or many others.  We don't have to bet every spin.


Hope this wasn't over kill.


GLC

[GLC]

Example:


r  Next bet is r (follow the last)
r  Win.  Next bet is r follow-the-last
r  Win.  Next bet is r follow-the-last
b lose.  Next bet is b follow-the-last
b win.  Next bet is b follow-the-last
r lose.  Next bet is r follow-the-last
b lose.  Next bet is r.  2 chops so brb signals switch
r win.  Next bet is b follow-the-chops
b win.  Next bet is r follow-the-chops
b lose.  Next bet is b follow-the-last
r lose.  Next bet is r follow-the-last
r win.  Next bet is b because we have doublets RBBRR
b win.  Next bet is b follow-the-doublets
b win.  Next bet is r follow-the-doublets
b lose.  Next bet is b follow-the-last
etc...


Cheers,


George

[Colbster]

Just a note from my sessions:

Not all doublets will end RRBBRBR, moving us to chops.  I have had more end RRBBRRR, where I have moved successfully to follow-the-last.

Just a slight addition.