Even Chance Tour De Force

[amk]

GLC:

"Just so we're all clear on this bet progression, it is a martingale based on winning 5 parlays in a row.
There are 139 levels."

GLC are you saying we have 139 chances to hit 5 in a row and still be units ahead.......?

I might have missed something...........

[vundarosa]

GLC:

"Just so we're all clear on this bet progression, it is a martingale based on winning 5 parlays in a row.
There are 139 levels."

GLC are you saying we have 139 chances to hit 5 in a row and still be units ahead.......?

I might have missed something...........

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yes, because you're betting double at each win, so if win at 1u bet, bet 2u then bet 4u,8u & 16u to recover and be ahead.
in my testing, i've so far had to go to betting 9u to be ahead  when i was -270u down.

i wonder if a 3 wins in a row progression would yeld better results....?!

vundarosa

[amk]

I still have to fully comprehend this method but a 3 wins in a row progression sounds better vundarosa................

I once had a method which had 55 chances/spins of landing a street that just landed. Played HIT AND RUN could be effective? I will have to review my notes for I played this method months ago.........

It did well on RNG but stopped playing after I discovered that RNG cannot be trusted. At the time I felt that this method was not suitable for live play, however...............?

[GLC]

GLC:

"Just so we're all clear on this bet progression, it is a martingale based on winning 5 parlays in a row.
There are 139 levels."

GLC are you saying we have 139 chances to hit 5 in a row and still be units ahead.......?

I might have missed something...........

AMK,


Yes, if you are willing to risk 1513 units, you have 139 chances to win 5 parlays in a row and if you follow the chart I posted, you will be at a new high bank anytime you win 5 times in a row and let-it-ride or parlay each time.


Per the chart, let's say you just bet 47 units and didn't reach 5 parlays before losing.  That means you are -1465 units. 
Your next bet is 48 units.  You win and now have 96 units.  That's 1 parlay.  Let the 96 units ride and it wins giving you 192 units, that's 2 parlays.  Now let the 192 units ride and we win which gives us 384 units on our 3rd parlay.  We let the 384 units ride and win which gives us 768 units on our 4th parlay. and finally we leave the 768 units on the table and win our 5th parlay giving us 1536 units.  We were down 1465 units.  1536-1465 = +71 - the 48 units of our money which isn't winnings gives us +23 units.  And we go home a winner.


Granted that would have taken you at least 3 hours depending on how fast the spins are at the table you're playing at because we have 138 losses plus all the wins in between that don't get counted because they weren't 5 in a row.  It could be as many as 300+ spins to win that 23 units.


Of course this is a rare occurrence since we expect to win long before 138 losses.


If you have 5000 units per Winkle's "Win all you want" money management system, you could add close to 70 more losses bringing it to 200+ losses.  You could also increase the number of wins to 6 in a row or even 7 in a row.  This would triple or more the number of attempts to win at.  How often do you think you would have to lose 1000 times before seeing a 7 in a row winning streak.


You would have to be very unlucky to ever run up against that much bad luck.  This is assuming you can find a table that has enough of a bet spread to be able to handle the large bets that would be necessary for say 7 in a row.


Seven in a row starting at 50 units is the following:


50=100
100=200
200=400
400=800
800=1600
1600=3200
3200=6400


As you can see, given enough money and a large enough minimum to maximum bet spread, this system is virtually unbeatable.


GLC

[amk]

Hello GLC,

I still a haven't grasped the method completely..........

I due feel that it's concept has great potential..........

Smaller units would be great as well as a quicker turnover............

I look forward to seeing if this is possible................

Any thoughts about the street method I mentioned...........?

[GLC]

Sorry AMK,



I don't know the street method you are talking about.


Have you posted it on the forum?  If so, tell me where or provide the link to get me there and I'll look at it.


G

[GLC]

AMK,


Here's the simplest way I can explain it.


Let's say we are only betting on Red.


We put 1 chip on red.  If we win we add that chip to our profits since it brings us to a new high bank.


We put 1 chip on red.  If we win, same as above.


We put 1 chip on red.  If we lose, we are -1.
We put 1 chip on red.  If we lose, we are -2.
We put 1 chip on red.  If we lose, we are -3.
We put 1 chip on red.  If we lose, we are -4.
We put 1 chip on red.  If we win, we are -3 and
We leave the 2 chips on red.  If we win, we are -1 and
We leave 2 chips on red.  If we win, we are +1.
We put 1 chip on red.  Lose  -1
1 chip on red.  lose -2
1 chip on red.  lose -3
1 chip on red.  lose -4
1 chip on red.  win -3
Leave both chips on red.  lose -5
1 chip on red.  lose -6
1 chip on red.  win -5
Leave both chips on red.  win -3
leave all 4 chips on red. lose -7
1 chip on red.  lose -8
1 chip on red.  lose -9
1 chip on red.  lose -10
1 chip on red.  win -9
Leave 2 chips on red.  win -7
leave 4 chips on red.  win -3
leave 8 chips on red.  win +5
1 chip on red.  lose -1
1 chip on red.  win 0
1 chip on red.  win +1


that's it.  Keep playing it that way.  remember the most number of times you leave all the chips on the table is 5 times.  If you started with 1 chip, you will have 32 chips on the table if you win the 5th  parlay. 


GLC

[GLC]

The progression presented here is just a suggestion.

You can always start with 1 unit after a loss.


Stay with 1 unit after reaching a new high bankroll.


In other words if you lose 55 times in a row and then win 5 in a row you will have recovered 31 units of the 55 lost and you will be down 24 units.  Continue to start each attack with 1 unit.  You are looking to win 5 in a row multiple times close together to bring you to a new high point.  Another win close will net another 31 points to put you about even and then another 5 in a row close will put you up.


You'll be surprised how often it happens without needing more than 50 or so units.


George

[GLC]

Ever feel like you're talking to yourself?  I do after all you guys go to bed and I'm still up here in the Mountain Standard time zone.


Anyway, to give you something to read 1st thing in the morning, I'll carry on.


There's nothing sacred about 5 parlays in a row.  You can do 4 parlays in a row and you can do 3 parlays in a row.


Here's a suggestion.  Start out shooting for 3 parlays in a row.  If you go for a while and are down say 24 or so units, shoot for 4 parlays in a row.  If you find yourself going longer without a win, you can move to 5 parlays in a row to recover your losses.


Right now I'm testing the 3 parlays in a row idea and it moves at a faster pace than the 5 parlays in a row, but it also recovers pretty quickly and if I start having more and more losses without 3 in a rows, I just stay with it and sure enough, I get 3 or so 3 in a rows close together and it pulls me out of the hole.


Heck.  Maybe 2 parlays is what we should be playing.


GLC

[vladir]

What you mean by 2 parlays? How would you play 2 parlays?

[amk]

GLC:

Ever feel like you're talking to yourself?  I do after all you guys go to bed and I'm still up here in the Mountain Standard time zone."

Would be cool if a few of us could link up in a casino...........

[vundarosa]

Ever feel like you're talking to yourself?  I do after all you guys go to bed and I'm still up here in the Mountain Standard time zone.


Anyway, to give you something to read 1st thing in the morning, I'll carry on.


There's nothing sacred about 5 parlays in a row.  You can do 4 parlays in a row and you can do 3 parlays in a row.


Here's a suggestion.  Start out shooting for 3 parlays in a row.  If you go for a while and are down say 24 or so units, shoot for 4 parlays in a row.  If you find yourself going longer without a win, you can move to 5 parlays in a row to recover your losses.


Right now I'm testing the 3 parlays in a row idea and it moves at a faster pace than the 5 parlays in a row, but it also recovers pretty quickly and if I start having more and more losses without 3 in a rows, I just stay with it and sure enough, I get 3 or so 3 in a rows close together and it pulls me out of the hole.


Heck.  Maybe 2 parlays is what we should be playing.


GLC

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GLC,

what progression are you using for 3 wins in row?

vundarosa

[GLC]

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GLC,

what progression are you using for 3 wins in row?

vundarosa

This is a new way that I'm testing and it's doing pretty well.  Hard to tell if it's any better that the progression I posted to find the dominant color.


I play for 3 in of a kind.


Example:  If I get B I play for B to continue.  Once I get BBB I play for it to switch to Red.  If it stays on B so that I have BBBB I play for 2 more B's and then I switch to Red and play for 3 of those.


The perfect sequence is RRRBBBRRRBBBRRRBBB etc...


I also play for 3 chops.  If I get BRB  I play RBR.  If I win those, I play for BRB etc...  As soon as I get a loss, I play for that color to go 3 times.


I also play for doubles.  If I get BRRBB I play for RRB and if I win those 3 I play for it to continue.  When it ends, if I have BBB or RRR, I play for the opposite color to hit for 3 times.
When it ends, if I have BBRB or RRBR I play for the chops to continue for 3 times.


Any time I'm playing for 3 of a kind and I only get 1 or 2 and then lose, it means I've gotten this RB or RRB so I just start playing the new color for 3 of a kind.


r  play for it to repeat again
r  play for it to repeat again
r  now play for b to hit
b  play for it to repeat again
b  play for it to repeat again
b  now play for r to hit
b  play for b to repeat again
r  play for r to repeat again
b  play for chops to continue
b  play for b to repeat again
r  play for r to repeat again
r  play for b to hit (doubles)
b  play for b to repeat again
b  play for r to hit
b  play for r to hit
r  play for r to repeat again
etc...



As soon as I get a

[vundarosa]

GLC,

do you have  a let-it-ride progression for 3 wins in a row akin to this 139 levels prog you've posted here?

vundarosa