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Whitticker Progression for Dozens and Columns

Started by LuckyLucy, Jul 08, 07:41 AM 2011

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catalyst

Quote from: XXVV on Jul 17, 03:24 AM 2011
I must emphasise what Victor has commented upon, and that it is the bet selection which makes so much difference. Some bets are better than others!  It's not hard to see. Also the timing of the bet and the duration of the bet and the session are also major factors to consider.
Best XXVV.

Hi XXVV
many thanks for your indepth discussions. two years back, i have checked this prog with few different bet selection but could not succeed. static, mechanical bet selection does not work. dynamic bet selection probably will be the key. sensible dynamic bet selection could be a topic for this thread for further discussion. if you throw some lights, we might see a way forward.
thanks
catalyst

XXVV

Thanks for comments.


@Catalyst - please read the thread* more carefully - all the answers are here, and there are no great secrets - I have been very careful not to hint and create a guessing game. We have all been down those pathways.


* and associated other posts


There are dumb bets and there are smart bets. They are a universe apart in results, with a lot of grey areas in between. It helps if you can find a bet that is virtually ( and often, but not always) positive.  There are lots like that. The swing of the Ecart  makes the difference. Then it is a matter of finding the bet and ensuring the timing of the bet coincides with the phase that is most lucrative, or as much as possible anyway. Also you need a bet that is frequently materialising/ churning results. You don't want to be waiting too long.


It helps, and I am being very helpful here, if you find a bet that has a low risk to reward ratio. Playing dozens and columns, that is not necessarily obvious. But its like those psychology test inkblots they ask you to find an image in. Sometimes you change the focus and you see a fresh image, but you cant see both at the same time.


With a more sensible bet that makes life easier.


Then the matter of the progression is really no big deal because in flat staking there would be a small profit at times anyway. I have already answered Mr Iggiv why there are various options and why you may choose various ways at various times.


However this particular progression that Lucy has so thoughtfully sourced is not only capable of repetitive frequent use to a certain level, but also capable of handling those situations when things don't go quite as you would ideally wish, and you can get out of trouble totally, or partially, depending on the circumstances and your wishes.  It is a very user friendly and 'lumpy' progression. You can opt out at various stages.


Also you don't play continuously and you don't play blind or mechanically ( ie no brain) otherwise you might as well just send a donation direct to the casino bank account before you even walk in the door, and save yourself the grief of loss. Better just to donate direct to a worthy charity.


So you use time against several variables in the game, but to your advantage. Don't fall into the traps of the Gamblers Fallacy - as its not as simple as that. Think it through. There is scope for lots of refinement and further development of these principles, and new bets.


Really hope that helps.
XXVV




XXVV

Its time now to see how and if we can apply this clever progression either in pure form, or in 'rough/ lumpy/ approximate' form to another family of bets - say the finales family.


More soon.
R
XXVV

XXVV

I some times deliberately 'collide' ideas by default to see what might ensue. This is a technique used in Art to generate  the unexpected, possibly 'random' outcomes - but this is a fine line and I am veering dangerously into distant territory and away from the subject.


The W/P is best utilised on outside bets or possibly multiples of 12 or 18 inside table numbers.


The variations possible in Finales groups can be so diverse that I think the progression may not be of use and instead if a progression were applied it will be as follows :


three or more finale groups : 3 units


four finale groups : 5 units


and stop loss at the advent of a fifth finale group if no prior hit.


All this is in the context of the Multple Finales bets as described in my thread on Experimental Ideas and / or Common Sense.


Alternatively the progression can step as per need by assessing a running sum of costs in units to recover, and allowing always a suitable margin for profit at each step.


However i believe, as often, the progression may be unwieldy without a stop and the number of winning games to recover that loss will be counter productive, so am recommending staying with flat staking.


I have overview techniques to filter out the extreme adverse situations so the flat staking which will always win anyway if there are one or two finale groups can be applied often to approximately half the filtered outcomes and offer good profit to quickly recover any earlier loss.


However the W/P can also provide the notion though of a lumpy or rough recovery where we seek to reduce debt in chunks of up to three games. Applied to flat staking in this context I believe this is the best way to go.


More later.

XXVV

A lot can happen in 3 months and a lot in 24 hours in this universe anyway.
Key to my next phase of this work is to run the WP applied to 10,000 recent live spins from my current location.

This will be applied to reverse bet D+C and applied to both dozens and columns with a covering bet asigned to zero for every bet spin ( averages about 1 in 3 on this method). goal is to at least break even with the zero cover on a secondary bank or better still a nice 10% compounding daily profit.

From my previous 10,000 spins and running a fast overview the WP would have won every session, and if pressed for time on say a 60 sec per spin cycle then a lumpy or approximate cover in the WP would suffice.

To me this is at the frontier of commercial bet research on professional roulette, in my universe anyway. Very very exciting for 2012.

I will keep you posted on this thread, on Experimental Ideas and New Thinking threads.
Best
XXVV

Robeenhuut

Quote from: XXVV on Jan 01, 11:26 PM 2012
A lot can happen in 3 months and a lot in 24 hours in this universe anyway.
Key to my next phase of this work is to run the WP applied to 10,000 recent live spins from my current location.

This will be applied to reverse bet D+C and applied to both dozens and columns with a covering bet asigned to zero for every bet spin ( averages about 1 in 3 on this method). goal is to at least break even with the zero cover on a secondary bank or better still a nice 10% compounding daily profit.

From my previous 10,000 spins and running a fast overview the WP would have won every session, and if pressed for time on say a 60 sec per spin cycle then a lumpy or approximate cover in the WP would suffice.

To me this is at the frontier of commercial bet research on professional roulette, in my universe anyway. Very very exciting for 2012.

I will keep you posted on this thread, on Experimental Ideas and New Thinking threads.
Best
XXVV

Hello XXVV

Thx for your insightful inputs. Its always a very interesting read.
Good luck for 2012.  Maybe it will be not a end of d world but d year
d game was finally conquered  :D

Regards
Matt

XXVV

Well I hope so my friend. Best wishes to you.
The game will not be conquered until we can 'conquer' ourselves, ie exercise formidable self discipline and control.
This will come with practice, but like the fascinating screenplay in the movie 'GroundHog Day', it may be the time loop is not just 10 years, but 10,000 years!
Lets just say our journey begins with 'one small step'.
Best
XXVV

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