Check the last 4 results

[GLC]

This may be coming in the back door for a bet selection.  In other words there may be an easier way to decide what to bet, but I like this way.


We are either going to bet for a change or a repeat of the last.


We will determine whether we bet change or repeat based on the pattern the last 4 spins make.


The following are the 8 patterns for either color.


RRRR  bet for Repeat.  In other words bet for Red
RRRB  bet for Repeat.  In other words bet for Black
RRBR  bet for Change.  In other words bet for Black
RBRR  bet for Change.
RRBB  bet for Repeat.
RBRB  bet for Change.
RBBB  bet for Repeat.
RBBR  bet for Change.



Those are all the possibilities.  You can ignore zeros as far as the pattern goes.  Or you can wait 4 spins until a new pattern develops after a zero hits.  I don't think it makes any difference.  So choose your own poison.


Only bet 1 time for each pattern.  In other words each spin causes you to check the pattern the last 4 spins makes and bet accordingly.


In a million spin test, this method will lose, I think.


In a 100 spins session, it wins uncannily.


Only play it on single zero wheels with la partage or better yet No Zero roulette.


I have tested it on baccarat and it does great.  No zero to worry about.


Choose your own bet method.


GLC

[Tomla021]

if it works on baccarat i will give it a test drive--thanks

[catalyst]

dear George
are you suggesting flatbetting on this bet selection?
thanks
catalyst

[Jeromin]

Using Baccarat terminology (chop vs streak):

in last 4 spins
chop < 2: repeat
chop=>2: change.

Jeromin

[GLC]

dear George
are you suggesting flatbetting on this bet selection?
thanks
catalyst

Catalyst,


I have tested this some with flat betting and it has always been at +3 at least.  Sometimes it's a real battle.  I don't think in the long run it will win flat betting.


I suggest gr8player's bet progression or the "bread winner" progression.  They 7 or more steps at each level, they are about as close to a flat bet as we can get and still have to recovery ability to pull out of a hole when we drop in one.

[GLC]

Using Baccarat terminology (chop vs streak):

in last 4 spins
chop < 2: repeat
chop=>2: change.

Jeromin

Thanks Jeromin.  That looks right. 

[Tomla021]

tested it w gr8 prog today for 20 shoes in baccarat worked decently

[GLC]

tested it w gr8 prog today for 20 shoes in baccarat worked decently

I've been testing it a little and it seems to be solid in the sense that so far I haven't had any really bad losing streaks.  It doesn't tend to win a lot quickly, but it does tend to have little clusters of wins fairly close together.


I've been testing it with a modification of your even chance "2 step progression".  I have change it to a 3 step parlay but I don't add any more units after the 1st bet.  And I have used a fibo type progression.


If lose           Bet Amt              If win 3 in a row
-1                       1                           +7
-2                       1                           +6
-3                       1                           +5
-4                       1                           +4


-5                       1                           +3
-6                       1                           +2
-7                       1                           +1
-8                       1                             0


-10                     2                           +6
-12                     2                           +4
-14                     2                           +2
-16                     2                             0


-19                     3                           +5
-22                     3                           +2
-25                     3                            -1
-28                     3                            -4


-33                     5                           +7
-38                     5                           +2
-43                     5                            -3
-48                     5                            -8


-56                     8                           +8
-64                     8                             0
-72                     8                            -8
-80                     8                            -16


-93                     13                         +11
-106                   13                          -2
-119                   13                          -15
-132                   13                          -28


-153                   21                          +12
-174                   21                           -9
-195                   21                           -30
-216                   21                           -51


-250                   34                           +22
-284                   34                            -12
-318                   34                            -46
-352                   34                            -80


-407                   55                            +33
-462                   55                             -22
-517                   55                             -77
-572                   55                             -132


A 3 in a row win at some levels gives you a full recovery but after reaching the 5's you will usually need  multiple wins to recover.  You have to use your own judgement to decide how far back you want to go.


I recommend going back at least 15 steps.


Try it and see if you think it can stay ahead of losses.

I recommend that you play for all 3 wins in a row in the beginning of the line even if you are ahead before the 3rd parlay.  This helps rack up more units in a shorter amount of time.

For example:  If you are betting the very 1st 1 unit bet, if you win you are up by 1 unit and usually I say to keep repeating that 1 unit bet until you lose but if you play for the 3 in a row wins, you will win 7 units instead of 1 unit.  That means that if you have won 7 times in a row betting 1 unit each time you would be up 7 units.  But if you win 7 times in a row betting the 3 step parlay, you would be up 15 units.

1=2; 2=4; 4=8-1=7  that's the 1st 3 wins
1=2; 2=4; 4=8-1=7  that's the 2nd 3 wins
1=2 -1= 1 that's the 7th win.

7+7+1 = +15


GLC

[Jeromin]

a few shoes I tried with a similar bet:
look at the last 3 results, if two chops bet chop, otherwise streak.
RBR: bet B
BRB: bet R
any other case, follow last. As with the above bet selection, it's most times a a grid, but has the virtue of not deviating much from the mean.
here are some results from recent sessions at Wiesbaden. The numbers are the distances between double wins.
E.g.:

WWWLWLLWLWLLLWW, that would be a 7: 7 losses between WW and WW.

(01.10.11- T3)
2,1,0,7,2,2,8,6,8,6,3,0,2,14,2,4,2,3,4,3,1,1,0,5,0,1,6,9,5,0,2,0,4,6,3

(01.10.11- T4)
1,1,6,0,0,0,0,0,2,1,3,1,5,0,2,0,6,2,1,1,3,4,5,3,1,1,3,0,1,0,0,1,6,0,1,0,2,0,3,1,0,3,0,5,6,0,0,21,1,1,10,6,1,1
Note: the 21 is not a typo.

(02.10.11- T2)
3,3,0,0,1,7,1,6,2,0,1,2,8,2,3,0,0,7,2,0

Once I had an idea of what a 2 step let it ride would look like ( no point doing comprehensive tests by hand ), I tested the 1-ville progression: every 10 results, up one for another 10 until recovering. It is definitely a grind after losses reach 30+, which can happen very fast. At one point I got to level 9 (-54), but the trend changed and was on a new maximum of +18 a mere(  ) 40 spins later.

Jeromin

[Jeromin]

10 steps might be a bit short, actually. 15 spins before checking might be better.The above bet selection behaves, so far, in one of three ways: 1/5 super easy ( only danger being greedy ); 3/5 a grind, but you don't go much beyond -10, mitght even work flat if you get out after +4/+5; 1/5 a session from hell. Even these SFH tend to reverse after around -50. Of course all this is easier said than done, after struggling for hours and going from -30 to -50 in your 3rd hour, then be expected to risk 8 of 9 units per spin. That's why I think going up after 15 spins will get you less deep.
Would be great to test it thoroughly.

Jeromin

[GLC]

Jeromin,


Thanks for the input my friend.  I agree with everything you've said.  The "21" is no surprise.  We can never safeguard completely against losing a progression.  My mentality when playing a system like this one is to hope to keep 1 unit in 10 that is won between progression losses.  That way when the hammer hits, it doesn't hurt so much.  Two hits close together can dampen you spirits though.


I like the extended gr8player type bet.  If you go in with enough units to lose my progression, 572, and you play a level for 15 bets before increasing bet size if negative, you might never lose.  I'm just not sure if this trot works any better than a number of other bet selection methods in the long run.


I was hoping it could keep from long stretches without a double or triple win.  Guess not.


I have been toying with the idea of a pluscoup type progression playing for 2 in a row or 3 in a row.  Just continue to bet 1 unit until you win a 2 or 3 in a row (your choice) and if still down, increase to 2 units.  Increase by 1 unit after each win until you reach a new high.


It may just extend the inevitable.  A stop loss is necessary for sure.


GLC

[Jeromin]

The "21" is no surprise.  We can never safeguard completely against losing a progression.

I have seen a 27 somewhere else in the other sessions from this month I was looking at.

Jeromin

[Tomla021]

i had a 22 today , lots of wlwl etc

[Tomla021]

another interesting thing just to provoke dialogue...in my testing, ive never gone past 7 losses till a win?

[GLC]

another interesting thing just to provoke dialogue...in my testing, I've never gone past 7 losses till a win?

If we could count on that, 1-2-4-8-16-32-64 would make us millionaires.  I'll chauffeur!

GLC