the BET....flat bet system thats so far winning for me

[marivo]

Fun game on BV European table:
bankroll: 200 units
96 spins
result: +105 units
biggest draw down was about 20 units.

[marivo]

Terribly long session with lots of  plays started with AA, BB, CC .... I was aiming to reach +100 units, was close to (+90 units) but then went down and gave up after 800 spins. Still ended in plus. Had 2 deep draws down.
Fun game on BV European table:
bankroll: 200 units
800 spins
result: +8 units
biggest draws down was about 60 units (at the beginning) and about 140 units (towards the end).

[6th-sense]

marivo you are a trooper...still plus  6 at 800 spins after your downsides might not be much but as a continious game what other flat bet would have finished like this??   
a bot would be ideal becouse it could be a very long game or a shorter one with the minimal spins either way its still working no matter how hard it tries to be beaten...
in your honest opinion does it feel a safer bet than progressing..?
as its time consuming did you not jot down the ec,s in your notes to see if a same unit bet amount on any of them would have favoured you?

[marivo]

in your honest opinion does it feel a safer bet than progressing..?

Yes.

as its time consuming did you not jot down the ec,s in your notes to see if a same unit bet amount on any of them would have favoured you?

Sorry I didn't, because I was placing bets pretty automaticly (in BV you can prepare your bets, so it took me only 1 click to place a bet).....
Do you mean some ec should be in favour if I place same bet (10 units) at the time I was placing it on dozs and splits?

[VLS]

6th and I have been talking about it by PM and this method definitely gets coded at the roulettestudy.com website.

Well, I can't really specify an exact release day, only "this month" (but at least it's something as I'm giving this priority given the manual results so far).

Of course, the testing results can be deep-linked from six's account to here at this thread -the idea is to be mutually beneficial. Let's only hope this baby passes the longer-term testing phase

Vic

[6th-sense]

yes marivo lets say you are placing your bet and its for a c letter to appear..which is a 10 unit bet as usual...i,m testing to see if a 10 unit bet also on the penulimite colour or even/odd at that excact moment is worth putting on...or if its a run ie 2 or more of the same ie 2 reds then we put 10 units on red ...ie if its 2 blacks...or 2 odds...or 2 evens...so in effect just going with the runs....its going to be penulimitive  or the runs...no high or low...its a very good theory and in effect with the original win.....3....million..site....we are betting the oppisite ie going for a letter oppisite what has come out ie ac...bet for b.....and hopefully catch the runs...red,black,odd,even....roulette explorer said this was the key to his bet to stabilise it and the links to vls he confirmed he said gives big hints to this...
thats why i,m saying its worth jotting down the results of the ec,s as a win or lose or double win if it comes out within our target...this is a major key i think....the BET itself is pretty special but a key element like this would make it magicical...

[marivo]

Can you show short example of this ec tracking and betting?

[6th-sense]

sorry about the late reply its been a hectic couple of days....

what i am talking about is when we bet for our third or fifth bet we should be noticing if an ec has come out twice...ie say we put our bet of 10 units on the letter c..becouse ab was our trigger ....but at the same time our trigger which is the 1st vitual was red..the 2nd virtual was also red....then the 3rd which is our actual bet maybe we should think of betting our usual 10 units on c....and 10 units on red...keeping the run .....same for 3rd result...4th result then if two of the same ec bet 10 units on the ec as well as our target letter...no tracking really just seeing whats in front of you...

ie  ab              ba          ca            cc              bc    our line
1  red         19 red      34 red     33 black        15 black   the results 
  trigger      virtual
                    +
                 2 reds in a row so when we bet for a letter c
                 we also bet 10 units on red...so we win twice
                 when the result ca 34 red comes out ..we,ve won
                 on the letter c and caught the run on red...

         ca is now our trigger for the 5th bet which will be a letter b....we now have ca red cc black so no colour to bet for but the letter b which we win...

   this is a simple an easily understood explanation....i think....it could be the colours are choppy bet the odds and evens are stable so you could them instead if both are in your favour either choose one or use them both ....i,m only testing the bet on one...hope this is helpful

[marivo]

Thank you, lets try!

[Nickmsi]

Here's what I tried.

An additional bet of 10 units was placed on the dominant color.  I checked the last 5 spins to determine if Red or Black was dominant.

First Test:
70 Spins-----10/15 dominant colors won-----plus 51 profit

Second Test:
130 Spins-----15/27 dominant colors won-----plus 22 profit.

All flat betting.

Nick

[Nickmsi]

Here's a summary of my first 4 test.

In addition to the regular bet, I was betting 10 units on the dominant color in last 5 spins.  A dominant color is 3 out of 5 Reds, 4 out of 5 Reds, 5 out of 5 Reds, vice versa for Blacks.

First Test:
70 Spins-----10/15 dominant colors won-----plus 51 profit

Second Test:
130 Spins-----15/27 dominant colors won-----plus 22 profit.

Third Test:
84 Spins-----8/13 dominant colors won-----plus 53 profit.

Fourth Test:
28 Spins-----4/6 dominant colors won-----Plus 57 profit.

It appears the profit target comes earlier, ie. less spins. 

Also, the additional bet seems to reduce the severity of the bankroll draw downs.

So far what's not to like.

Nick

[6th-sense]

thanks nick...seems to match my results too....so up to now we,ve got a flat bet that works...trying different tweaks with the ec,s seems to be making it better...no negative comments at moment which is unusual but a good sign i suppose..

so theres no big bang and the worlds gone mad....so i think maybe roulette explorer...yes you...should email steve or victor and post what you have ..just as i have done...you have nothing to lose.....

the fact is even if someone had a flat bet they wouldn,t have the patience to use it...

[marivo]

How do you calculate this?
Example:

Fourth Test:
28 Spins-----4/6 dominant colors won-----Plus 57 profit.

bets were 60 units,
you got back 80 units
result 20 units profit?!

[Paja]

Thank you 6th sense for sharing this gem!


I don't think it's CWB yet but  it provides great way of coding D/C and thus tracking relevant patterns in my opinion! I always coded dozens with abc , columns with 123 and that confused me.


I'm not sure about trigger. Why did you choose 3rd and 5th spin? I think you are missing a lot of betting oportunities.


I am now "coding" few 100 spin sessions in AB format. I first write them all in one long line like this:


AA AB AC CB CC BB AB CA BC AA BB BA AC....


and then i write them like this depending on trigger:


AB AC                   - abc has showed up on second spin
AC CB                   - AC is also a trigger, no reason for waiting
CB CC BB AB
AB CA
CA BC
BC AA .....


I will post my sessions when i code them.


At least for now i can see some interesting stuff like chances for limited progression or maybe even reversing the bet and play it on less numbers.


I promised myself not to be excited again at early stages but so far it's been a revalation for me!     





 

[6th-sense]

hi paja...lots of time study just like yourself is how i came to the conclusion of this bet...as for consistant i think its proving its self at the moment flat betting...so i think it is..

i know i am missing betting opportunities but that is becouse of lots of testing on my part as i devised the best way to play it..its not in my opinion to be taken lightly the way its played...

the 3rd and 5th bet and rules of play are what makes it work, iv,e tried so many combinations but the simple matter is this was the only way forward for it to recover losses flat betting..

why it works i think is becouse of the random cycle going around and around we are on it either when the drawdown is happening but sticking on the drawdown cycle eventually goes to the upward cycle thus getting off when in profit...a lot of times you do hit the upward cycle putting you in plus pretty quickly...either way its working

i,m glad iv,e given you inspiration and i,ll look forward to reading your systems or ideas too but you need to try without progression if you can ..it makes it more appealing and relaxing in my book...