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Started by GLC, Jan 19, 11:49 PM 2012

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GLC

We're going to divide the table into 4 sections.
Section 1 = 1-9
Section 2 = 10-18
Section 3 = 19-27
Section 4 = 28-36


Bet selection method is we have 6 even chance locations and we bet on them in the following sequence.  1-18; Even; Black; Red; Odd; High.  It takes 18 bets to go through the sequence.  6 locations 3 times each. 


Please observe this rule:  If the even chance location to be bet on next has just hit 3 or more times in a row, we skip that location and move to the next location


We have 4 bet amounts.  1 unit, 2 units, 3 units and 4 units.
If the last number was from section 1 our next bet is 1 unit.
If the last number was from section 2 our next bet is 2 units.
If the last number was from section 3 our next bet is 3 units.
If the last number was from section 4 our next bet is 4 units.


((Note:  If you don't like the above method of deciding bet amounts, you can just start with 1 unit bets and if you lose 10 times without reaching a new high bank balance, go to 2 units then 3 units then 4 units and even beyond if you have a mind to.))


We play until we have reached a new high bank balance or we have bet each unit amount a pre-determined number of times.  I like 10 each.  That gives us 40 losses to reach a new high balance.  If we have lost 10 times betting say 3 units, we bet the unit amount that has the fewest losses.


Example:  If number 17 just spun, we should bet 2 units, but if we have lost a 1 unit bet 8 times, a 2 unit bet 10 times, a 3 unit bet 6 times and a 4 unit bet 7 times, we would bet 3 units because we only have 6 losses of 3 units.  This way we never lose more than 40 times.


We have discovered from examining e.c. bets that a 35% wins vs 65% losses is about as bad a ratio as we can expect.  That equates to 22 wins and 40 losses for a difference of 18 bets.  Since our average bet will be 2.5 units, 18 X 2.5 = -45 units should be about the most we should ever lose in a session.  I know that I've taken some liberty with applying the above stats to these 40 losses, but it should be in the ball park.


If we reach 40 losses without reaching a new high bank balance, we take the loss and start over with a clean slate. 


The nice thing about this system is that there's no limit to how much you can win but there is a limit to how much you can lose.


If you want to make it even more random, you can change the even chance bet order for each 40 loss session.


Remember, if we reach a new high bank balance before we have 40 losses, we end that session and either start another on or quit for the day.


Before you shrug this method off, give it a couple of tests.  It's easy to play and quite effective.


By the way, it can be played successfully on Roulette, Craps, Baccarat, and Blackjack.


Good luck,


GLC
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Anthony

Hi, could you elaborate a little more? Sorry I'm a little confused. I don't completely understand the bet selection. How do you determine where to place your bet based on each section? Sorry maybe I'm missing something.

GLC

Quote from: Anthony on Jan 25, 10:17 PM 2012
Hi, could you elaborate a little more? Sorry I'm a little confused. I don't completely understand the bet selection. How do you determine where to place your bet based on each section? Sorry maybe I'm missing something.


We begin by betting for 3 spins on Low or 1-18.  Win or lose we go to Even for our next 3 bets.  Then we go to Red for our next 3 bets.  Then we go to Odd for our next 3 bets.  Then we go to High 19-36 for our next 3 bets.  Then we start over with 1-18 or Low for our next 3 bets.  Then we go to Even for our next 3 bets.  Etc...


So, we bet 3 times on each of the 6 even chances and win or lose we move to the next even chance to the right of the Low even chance, it's Even then Red then Black then Odd then High.


It takes 18 bets to go through the even chances and then we start over again.  This helps keep things random.


If you want, you can re-arrange the order you will bet the even chances to add even more randomness.  The order I gave is the order they appear across the bottom of the roulette table, but you can go in any order you want.


You can do anything you want.  You can only bet 5 of them or 3 or whatever.  You can bet each 1 for 2 bets then move on or 4 bets and then move on.  All we're doing to trying to add an element of randomness to our bet selection.


As far as the bet amounts, if you want you can start with 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 and then go to 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 and then 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 and then 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 if you don't like the randomness of betting the different amounts.


As I've tested this, I prefer to bet starting at 1 for 10 times and if I'm still minus I go to 2 for 10 times or until I reach a new high. etc...


Give it a good test and see what you think.


GLC
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Anthony

Thank you for a very thorough response... I understand the bet selection now. Can you explain a little more about the sections you divide the board into and how it comes into play as far as bet selection?

I look forward to testing this...

Will 100 units be good? Or what do you recommend?

Anthony

GLC

Anthony,  The sections are just the 1st 9 numbers then the 2nd 9 number then the 3rd 9 numbers then the 4th 9 numbers.  The only reason we use them is to insert an element of randomness in our bet sizes.  So, if the 1st number spun was a 12 that would signal a bet of 2 units on the next spin.  If the next number spun was a 26, the next bet amount would be 3 units.  Purely random.  That's why I said that if you don't want to use the above, you could bet sequentially starting with the 1's.

Nothing about this system is based on anything other than trying to introduce randomness in our play to see if we can win with no organized bet amount method or bet selection method.

Yes, 100 units is the most you should need.  Shoot for +25 units or -100 units.

GLC
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Tomla021

bot following on how it can be played on bacc etc?
"No Whining, just Winning"

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Anthony

GLC how are your personal results with this method? Is it holding up?

anthony

GLC

Anthony,


I don't like the 1st part of the system that tells you how much to bet depending on what part of the table the last number spun is in.  It's too random for my taste.


I prefer betting the normal progression of 1 for 10 losses unless you get ahead, then 2 for 10 then 3 for 10 then 4 for 10.  Any time you reach a new high balance start over.  If you reach 40 losses and are still in the hole, you can either take the loss and start over at 1 unit.  Or, you can continue betting 4 units until you recover.  This would be akin to Hermes' "leveler" bet progression.  Or, you can continue to 5 unit bets then 6 unit bets, etc...  Depends on your risk tolerance and bank roll.


I have only tested this for +100 units.  I have not reached the 10th loss betting 4 units without reaching a new high balance.


I can tell that it will have losing sessions and there will be times when you are close to even betting 3 or 4 units and you'll have a really bad run and it will put you down 30 or more units.  I think it will be a rare day when you lose more than 50 units in one series.


This is a good system to play with your favorite bet selection method or the one suggested above.  There's nothing here that makes it a long term winner played continuously, but with just a little luck, you could walk out with some chips most trips to the casino.


This is just an idea.  If you like it, tweak it to suit yourself.


Unfortunately, I have moved on to another idea.  I may get back to this one in the future, but not now.


LOL,


GLC
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Anthony

Thank you! I look forward to hearing your ideas.

GLC

Thanks Anthony,


Unfortunately I am running out of ideas.


I looked back through some of my ideas from the last couple of years and some of them are pretty good but others are so bad they make me just shake my head.


In the end, most ended with a really bad draw down that caused me to discard them.  Either because I used a steep progression that crashed or because I used a very mild progression but still got stuck in negative numbers for so long that I knew I would never want to play that way for real money.


I am trying to decode the basics of a system called "The Einstein System".  It's another even chance system and it has a lot of parameters to keep it from getting out of control.


My only fear is that it too will gradually creep farther and farther in the hole on a really bad run of spins.


So far, with ALL systems I've looked at, either you have to be willing to increase the size of your bets after a losing streak to recover or keep your bets small and take forever to recover.


Maybe some of the single number systems are different, but I'm a little suspicious that a single number system just takes 35 times longer to do the same thing that an even chance bet does.


Good Luck to you my friend,


GLC
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