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Their bait page silverthornepublications.com/TargetRouletteGold/order.htm says:

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I understand that I have ordered in time to take advantage or your very special and limited price of just $79.97
$79 for the target loser system?? no.

I say scam the scammer: download the target roulette and other ebooks via google backdoor to your computer for free  8) 8) 8)

http://www.google.com/search?q=filetype:pdf+site:http://www.silverthornepublications.com/


Greetings.

I am happy the scammer is scammed today.

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This is the link to google and it has no copyright.

It is their responsibility to close the backdoors.

This google link is not their property and can not sue for posting a link to a public search engine.

Internet Ruling: Hypertext Linking does not violate Copyright:

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"hypertext linking does not itself involve a violation of the Copyright Act�.since no copying is involved." The basis for this conclusion can be seen from the statutory language of the Copyright Act, Title 17 section 106 of the United States Code, describing the exclusive rights of copyright holders.
Complete text version:
http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/law/st_org/iptf/headlines/content/2000040401.html

United States Code: Title 17,106. Exclusive rights in copyrighted works:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00000106----000-.html

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Its Set In Stone =)

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LoL nice  :D

You can download copies of:

  • Power Blackjack Strategy
  • Dynamo Online Baccarat Strategy
  • PowerMove Online Craps Strategy
  • Survive & Prosper

and others.

All in the price of $79.97 the reversed number as psychological technique price to defraud.

Now all reversed to $00.00  ;D  ;D

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I read some of it, but didnt dl it

Think of all the money we have saved  :D
Its Set In Stone =)

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Think of all the money we have saved  :D
Very funny. The saving is: $0 = nothing. Because no one who is sane would buy them the documents.

Look at their sales letters, practically say: I AM THE SCAM IN PERSON:

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Make $100 for every 15 minutes you spend online.
silverthornepublications.com/TargetRouletteGold/

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"Make $500 at Any Craps Table in Less Than 30 Minutes!"
silverthornepublications.net/SilverSysInternet/

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"Make at least $294.00  for every hour of your time. You will do this easily, quickly and with absolute certainty
silverthornepublications.com/AutomaticCraps/

This are the boldest claims for a scammer.

Someone before asked on talkgold forum:

"How full of BS can be this Martin Silverthorne character???"

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r246176-.html

And the answer is he will have unlimited bullshit for as long as the people continue to make buys of his systems from him.

In the land of the scamming, silverthorne claims are the king.

WannaWin
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Jordan

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The idiots and the uninformed ppl DESERVE to be scamed!
This is my opinion.

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@Jordan

I politely disagree Jordan, the uninformed deserve to be informed so they can make an informed decision on the product offered.

On the other hand, I understand "the idiots" are those whom AFTER being informed still chose to fall prey of the scammer. In such case perhaps they deserve it, but it doesn't make what's done to them morally right.

Quite a debatable topic there!

Should opt-in/self-chosen idiocy supersede legal rights? :o

My guess is in a court room: no.

Just imagine an analog scenario! "I murdered him because he agreed to it" -OK, charges for murder one withdrawn since the victim chose to be murdered, you are free to walk out with no charges Sir, sorry for the inconveniences.

...Reality check: NOT A CHANCE!!!

@wannawin

I do agree there are no grounds for copyright infringement since nothing is being copied form their site, the link above is for google only (one could even argue google isn't violating copyright either, since they are merely indexing the file, not hosting it); BUT if we get a formal complaint I'll take the link out. I guess it's only a matter of time for them to patch the misconfiguration at their server anyway.

The webmaster of that site isn't going to look so good on this one! He better be a good personal friend of this silverthorne guy if he is to keep the job... Or I can imagine the face of MartinJ when he realizes google indexed those files (had he published the site himself)!
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The uninformed deserves to be SCAMED!
The reason is because he/she did not care or did not had the simple brain to SEARCH(make an research) before buy anything!

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Holy jesus! RE:

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Make $100 for every 15 minutes you spend online.
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"Make $500 at Any Craps Table in Less Than 30 Minutes!"
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"Make at least $294.00  for every hour of your time. You will do this easily, quickly and with absolute certainty

WTF! And this doesn't trigger the buyer's "common sense flags"? Specially the "quickly and with absolute certainty" part.

Holy potatoes! Jordan, perhaps you are right. It doesn't even need much research (or thinking) for discerning such claims as scam :-\
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Believe it or not, there are intelligent and educated people who actually fall for those Nigerian email scams - you know the kind - someone purporting to be a banker looking after the estate of deceased millionaire claims he needs a foreign bank account through which to launder the money, just send him your details for a cut...

I think it's hard to make a case for saying that anyone DESERVES to be scammed though (unless you're another scammer  :) ). Unfortunately, common sense can be short-circuited by greed and laziness, or perhaps desperation. But what if you have a low IQ or are trusting and naive, or maybe have some kind of mental disorder? do you "deserve" to be scammed then?

Also, scammers very often rely on the ignorance of the "scammee". For example, we are all here on this forum because we enjoy roulette and most of us hope and believe that there are ways to win consistently (in spite of all evidence to the contrary), which make us ripe for scammers. I'm certainly not endorsing "Target Roulette", but it's actually quite sophisticated in comparison with many systems you see posted on forums. If you truly believe that "all systems/methods are equal" (ie; NOTHING works) then what are you doing here?

Yes, the argument "If it's so good, why are you selling it" has considerable force, but it doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility that you could ALSO be playing and/or have other reasons why you're selling it and not playing it. Things aren't always so black and white. "Proof" can often be no more than a lack of imagination.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

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I had one of those scam emails bayes, I played along for 3 months UNTIL I got the clincher

"Ive been robbed and my passport has been stolen, please help me"

I replied, sure phone me and we can sort it out

I gave them the Number of the local Police Station

3 Months "hard work" for nothin

I never did hear if they got their passport back or not......
Its Set In Stone =)

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this Silverthorn sold lots of stuff like that. and it make work for some time till it sinks and loses all.

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I had one of those scam emails bayes, I played along for 3 months UNTIL I got the clincher

"I've been robbed and my passport has been stolen, please help me"

I replied, sure phone me and we can sort it out

I gave them the Number of the local Police Station

3 Months "hard work" for nothin

I never did hear if they got their passport back or not......

I once wrote back with something along the lines of:

I was extremely pleased to receive your email, as I'm financially distraught at the moment, please send me a small deposit (say £1000) as a sign of good faith.

Sadly, I never got a reply.  :(

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please send me a small deposit (say £1000) as a sign of good faith. [/i]

Sadly, I never got a reply.

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