METHOD--MSIP--in cycles-aim 10 un.

[Johnlegend]

Alright, how about Pattern Breaker played after a virtual loss?

BR  $70,   Units won per game $10


I estimate that you will go at least 50 games before a loss.

Playing High and Low and Odd and Even simultaneously AMK. I have a record of 3910/3 for wins and losses. Its the reason that waiting is worth it. The reason this is overall still one of the greatest methods ever. Not just because its mine but because it works. And recently I have been scrutinizing the breakdown of the 7TH pattern. And its beautiful. You allow random to work for you by forming two thirds of that 7th pattern. You then attempt to finish the job. In 3910 played games a 63 unit progression would still be standing. With the average number of attempts to close PATTERN 7 being **TWO**. Again it makes the waiting that much sweeter.

[amk]

wow, great developments JohnLegend. Looking forward to the thread/threads

I think we are at a new height on this forum at the moment which will only go up. Just goes to show that only through sharing can we advance.

[TwoCatSam]

amk

I'm going to start a new thread for this.  "The PB Challenge".

Sam

[Johnlegend]

wow, great developments JohnLegend. Looking forward to the thread/threads

I think we are at a new height on this forum at the moment which will only go up. Just goes to show that only through sharing can we advance.

Exactly. Warrior has taken CODE 4 and DIVIDE & CONQUER to a great place. Atlantis and Cofi have inspired me to come up with something that will be shown in all its glory once Bayes is ready. And the Vile one has pushed an excellent Line method to the top of the forum where it ought to stay for years. If people knew a roulette killer when they saw one.

And PATTERN BREAKER continues to astound me with its granite tough double loss record. And now The 7TH PATTERN is looking like another gift to profit from along the road. Observe its breakdown too AMK you will like it.

[Johnlegend]

amk

I'm going to start a new thread for this.  "The PB Challenge".

Sam

You just follow what I tell you when you start playing it on BV Sam. And you will have no problem financing your grand kids through college. If American Colleges are anything like those American Pie movies theyll have some fun LoL.

[TwoCatSam]

John

You have insulted me enough.  amk is not an insulting person.  I can work with him.

You said I offered you a PayPal bribe.  Brother, you should be ashamed.  I no more offered you a bribe than amk just offered me one.  It's a business proposition.

I have left you alone and intend to keep doing so.  I would expect the same courtesy unless you can be helpful.  I welcome all help.

TwoCatSam

[Johnlegend]

John

You have insulted me enough.  amk is not an insulting person.  I can work with him.

You said I offered you a PayPal bribe.  Brother, you should be ashamed.  I no more offered you a bribe than amk just offered me one.  It's a business proposition.

I have left you alone and intend to keep doing so.  I would expect the same courtesy unless you can be helpful.  I welcome all help.

TwoCatSam

Sam thats your perrogative. I dont recall you being all sun and roses with me either. But I am big enough to forgive and forget and move on. I want you to succeed on BV. An I know you will if you are doing it as I would. AMK is a great guy so you are in great hands. So I will leave it with him. If you harbour hard feelings.

[Chauncy47]

You just follow what I tell you when you start playing it on BV Sam. And you will have no problem financing your grand kids through college. If American Colleges are anything like those American Pie movies theyll have some fun LoL.

I haven't had much time to participate in the forum lately but just wanted to quickly add to your comment.  If you stick to the rules for each method or even for your own personal methods, you will win~win~win.  Maybe it's not so much the method thats the actual "grail" itself, but rather the discipline and a better understanding of randomness combined with the methods that makes it the "grail"...just a thought.  And I agree that you will have no problem financing your kids college education.  I am simply playing CODE 4, D&C, Hybrid D&C, P4, PB and now Trilogy and the results remain solid and my BR continues to grow.

[Johnlegend]

I haven't had much time to participate in the forum lately but just wanted to quickly add to your comment.  If you stick to the rules for each method or even for your own personal methods, you will win~win~win.  Maybe it's not so much the method that's the actual "grail" itself, but rather the discipline and a better understanding of randomness combined with the methods that makes it the "grail"...just a thought.  And I agree that you will have no problem financing your kids college education.  I am simply playing CODE 4, D&C, Hybrid D&C, P4, PB and now Trilogy and the results remain solid and my BR continues to grow.

Hi Chauncy. One day who knows this could be your job if you want it. TIME/MONEY the two things most of us don't have enough of. You should when you have time Chauncy show them what just a 200 unit start has achieved. Through your solid adherance to Hit and Run. And acute observations of your surroundings and feeling of when its time to close it down. The human factor. That should inspire a few more with the right stuff.

[GLC]

Vile,
I've been thinking about this system and how you play it.  It seems to me that the principles that are used to make this system work if valid should be even more valid if we used them on streets.

I've often said that if a system will work on any bet on the table, it should work on any other bet on the table.  It just has to be adjusted for each payoff amount, but it should work in the long run.

Another way to look at this is if it won't work on one of the bet positions, ultimately it won't work on any of them.

If principles that make this work on double streets were applied to single streets they should be more effective.  Granted we would have to bet 6 units each spin and thus need a larger bankroll, but we should have a little higher strike rate.  And, of course, if we could play in by betting 18 single numbers, we should get the purest use of the winning principle.  Playing 18 different numbers at different amounts each bet is probably too complicated to play, but it should work even better.

Any thoughts on this idea?

Did you look at the streets also?

George

[GLC]

I'm not sure if this is valid but it could be that this method works great on single numbers, pretty well on single streets, okay on double streets, not quite on dozens, and it would just be follow the last spin on even chances and we know in the long run that tanks.

I've always thought that if it worked on double streets it should work on single numbers, streets, dozens and even chances.

My old brain is in quicksand.  Help me get out.

George

[flukey luke]

Streets seem to be the most pliable solution when it comes to roulette in my opinion.

Splits is getting too greedy. Single numbers are a no-no unless you have the loan company on speed dial.

Dozens are fools gold and the even chances will grind you down. 

How's that for a summary.

[GLC]

Streets seem to be the most pliable solution when it comes to roulette in my opinion.

Splits is getting too greedy. Single numbers are a no-no unless you have the loan company on speed dial.

Dozens are fools gold and the even chances will grind you down. 

How's that for a summary.

Does that mean that you think a street system will work just fine on a Line bet or vice versa?

[flukey luke]

I should have added line bets are like wearing a straightjacket!

I would be pretty confident in saying that most systems would perform better as far as risk vs reward goes if you can somehow manage to incorporate the bet into streets.

[vile]

Vile,
I've been thinking about this system and how you play it.  It seems to me that the principles that are used to make this system work if valid should be even more valid if we used them on streets.

I've often said that if a system will work on any bet on the table, it should work on any other bet on the table.  It just has to be adjusted for each payoff amount, but it should work in the long run.

Another way to look at this is if it won't work on one of the bet positions, ultimately it won't work on any of them.

If principles that make this work on double streets were applied to single streets they should be more effective.  Granted we would have to bet 6 units each spin and thus need a larger bankroll, but we should have a little higher strike rate.  And, of course, if we could play in by betting 18 single numbers, we should get the purest use of the winning principle.  Playing 18 different numbers at different amounts each bet is probably too complicated to play, but it should work even better.

Any thoughts on this idea?

Did you look at the streets also?

George

George mate,
Did have look at the streets,it's almost same,but much harder to play and track visually as I do
on two tables every night on lines.it's fact it could go sometimes into deep downs but believe
me it always gets few large strikes when you reach your goal.Mainly I play this with lot of money in my pockets,and being few hundreds down means nothing when you aware that night session in
casino just can not go without these strikes.As said at begining of the thread this method
relays on last/further 3 line strikes.Will keep it playing as long as it wins me 10-20 units every night.
Am also aware that it probably will come bad run one night........BUT WHEN.....And will I live that long.