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Old idea with new twist - 56 session won 1 session lose - total 57 sessions ...

Started by ego, Jun 19, 07:04 AM 2012

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ego


I find this by a person who made a site about systems from old VIP ...

Street system by GiantChimpanzees'


The final version that I use is as follows -

last 12 spins for reference.
when 4 streets are no-shows, begin betting.
3 units per street on 4 streets (this is the same as 1 unit per number)

3 spins flat bet, win on the 1st or 2nd makes profit - win on the 3rd
breaks even (total spins to remember now is 15)

No win yet, increase the street bets by 3 units per spin
(this is the same as adding 1 unit per number) until a win / reset.

Why it works ?

Well, playing 4 streets is the same as playing 12 numbers.
This is the same as playing a dozen.
Qualification (12 spins) means that this "dozen" has failed to show
for 12 spins.
(Check to see how many times a dozen or column goes 12 spins
without a show....)

The 3 played spins flat betting bring us up to 15 spins.
Same as a dozen failing to show for 15 spins (not "rare" but not common)
So we have a good chance of at least breaking even with a win on the
15th spin (or profit on the 13th or 14th)

The progression is steep and a win after a lot of losing spins leaves us down a bit - seems to hold it's own though fine on a real table.

I'd suggest 100 unit profit (takes about 100 total spins) and give it a break.

Hope it helps, it's a nice slow money maker most of the time.
 
Modification...

I was looking some old posts searching for ideas and was intrigued by the one called 'another way to play turbo street system' posted on the 13 September 2004 by GiantChimpanzees.


I did some minor tweaks to suit my style and bankroll and here it is:


- track 12 spins until you get a cycle with exactly 4 sleeper streets (if it's more or less continue tracking spins on a rolling basis until last 12 spins are such that you have 4 sleeper streets)

- bet on each individual numbers from those streets as they wake up

- bet according to the following mild progression:

- start at 1 unit per number
- if balance hits -15, bet 2 units per number
- if balance hits -55, bet 3 units per number

- Stop and reset when
- balance is positive; or
- loss hits -150 units

I have been playing this method at my local casino for some time with the following results:

- 57 sessions played, 56 won and 1 lost

- Current balance: +£1,508 playing with £1 units

- Average win per session: 26.4 units

All I can say is thank you to the people who devised this method.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

soggett

Not a bad idea
On that 1 loss how many spins did it take to eventually hit?
Can you give us your number of wins on step 1, step 2, etc...?
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

ego

Quote from: soggett on Jun 19, 07:10 AM 2012
Not a bad idea
On that 1 loss how many spins did it take to eventually hit?
Can you give us your number of wins on step 1, step 2, etc...?

Well the twist sounds to be pretty good.
Can not answer any question as i only post/copy what i find at the site.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

flukey luke

27 =9.
25 =9.
34 =12.
4 =2.
18 =6.
29 =10.
26 =9.
8 =3.
4 =2. Missing. 1,4,5,7,8.
4 =2. Missing. 1,4,5,7,8.
32 =11. Missing. 1,4,5,7,8.
21 = 7. Missing 1,4,5,8. Qualifies.
15 play 15.
9 -1.
18 -2.
23 play 23. -3.
5 -5.
22 play 22. -7.
32 -10.
9 -13.
9 -16.
29 -22.
9 -28.
23 win. +38.

ego

 
Short test RNG 6 sessions using wheel layout ...

+24
+40
-32
+35
+37
+32

It is not so rare that you end up at stage 3 - but most of the time the method hits at stage 1 and 2.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

flukey luke

The three numbers before the 27 were 28,31,31.

I like this idea. Too many systems and not enough time (or money) to try them all.  ;D

What's funny is that you always win when testing new systems. I am starting to think that the JL theory of 'hit and run' may have some merit to it!! (only kidding)

flukey luke

 9 =3.
24 =8.
34 =12.
3 =1.
16 =6.
11 =4.
19 =7.
19 =7.
19 =7.
28 =10.
36 =12.
20 =7. Missing 2,5,9,11. Qualifies.
29 =10.
24 =8.
26 =9. Play 26.
8 =3. -1.
5 =2. Play 5. -2.
15 =5. Play 15. -4.
34 =12. -7.
18 =6. -10.
30 =10. -13.
25 =9. -16. Play 25.
4 =2. Play 4. -24.
29 =10. -34.
15 =5. +28.
7
15
4

ego


Well it is like a sloppy twist of RWD witch only aim for one number or should i say same overall raw principal.
I like the idea using number by hand and make some real observation.

Real sectors hitting - wheel layout

0 x
1
2 x
3 x
4 x
5 x
6
7
8 x
9
10 x
11 x

Numbers hitting

2
23
30
28
27
6
23
13
13
35
0
12
31

Slepping sectors/numbers

19 4 21
10 5 24
16 33 1
9 22 18

Distribution of hits


26
15
25
4
15
20
12
36
25
33
13
17
7
14
14
26
14
23
8
36
28
36
19
7
11
24
25
4 <<< HIT
2
32
9.
2
32
24 <<< HIT
31
32
12
5
3
11
33 <<< HIT
8
29
32
15
4 <<< HIT
6
26
28
24 <<< HIT
10
7
35
20
10 <<< HIT
11
18
23
28
0
26
32
20
32
30
12
29
11
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

TwoCatSam

ego

This is very much the same as wardblack's rolling dozen.  You still have a rolling dozen, just done a different way.  In black's idea, you identified sleepers.   I opened it again under "wardblacks rolling dozen repreised".  Something like that.

Maybe this is better.

Drunk chimps can do wonders some times.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

flukey luke

35 =12.
28 =10.
11 =4.
1 =1.
13 =5.
13 =5.
10 =4.
35 =12.
9 =3.
28 =10.
22 =8.
32 =11. Missing 2,6,7,9. Qualifies.
6 =2. Play 6.
21 =7. Play 21. -1.
18 =6. Play 18. -3.
10 =4. -6.
5 =2. Play 5. -9.
5 Win. +23.

flukey luke

7 =3.
21 =7.
29 =10.
18 =6.
3 =1.
9 =3.
16 =6.
11 =4.
2 =1.
3 =1.
24 =8.
29 =10. Missing. 2,5,9,11,12.
1 =1.
23 =8. Missing. 2,5,7,9,11,12.
36 =12. Missing.  2,5,7,9,11.
23 =8.
11 =4.
20 =7. Missing. 2,3,5,9,11.
36 =12. Missing 2,3,5,6,9,11.
9 =3. Missing. 2,5,6,9,11.
29 =10.
26 =9. Missing. 2,5,6,11. Qualifies in 21 spins.
8 =3.
8 =3.
13 =5. Play 13.
4 =2. -1.
17 =6. Play 17. -3.
32 =11. Play 32. -5.
25 =9. -8.
26 =9. -11.
13 =5. +22.
0
32
32
23
8
26

flukey luke

What I like looking at the above examples is that they were winners just a few spins further down as well. The 32 appeared in the example above just 2 spins later.

Number 15 and number 4 both appeared several spins later in my second example.

23 was a winner on the first example and it came in again on the very next spin.

I am out of coffee and the casino do a lovely cappuchino. It would be rude not to!!  :D

ego


MODIFICATION MM

Option 1.
Lets assume you play air ball minimum bet size for straight up number at 1 Euro.
Then when you lose 150 you move to regular table and play minimum 2 Euro.
When back to regular balance move back to air ball minimum.

Option 2.
Play at regular table with minimum bet size for straight up number at 2 Euro.
When balance reach 150 you move down playing air ball minimum at 1 Euro.
Playing with winnings only.
If a loss at first stage you move up to table with 5 Euro minimum.

Option 3.
Develop you own staking plan with stages similar towards does above.

Has to be pretty good as long time solution using a good MM with the method above.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Bayes

Quote from: ego on Jun 19, 07:04 AM 2012
I find this by a person who made a site about systems from old VIP ...

I think this is the site?

link:://starthere.mysteria.cz/

Wow, that's a blast from the past.  :)
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

flukey luke

Thank you for bringing this back to life ego.

There were a few half decent methods kicking around at the time.

Another poster called 'zio-nini' (or something similar) also posted a street method which was pretty popular at the time.

The thing is a lot of us have a lot more knowledge and experience now. These methods may be able to be tweaked to make them more consistently profitable. You just never know.

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