Math question

[Master_of_pockets]

Let s say that we have a 3 STD on an EC inside 50 spins.
Let s say that we have a 3 STD on an EC inside 150 spins.

Which one is better to bet? Or are they the same?

[beretta28]

I think that you are asking for the true STD and not for the STD(that is not a real STD) invented by Marigny in his roulette system.
I try to teach  a bit of math in a very simple way,because the formula for calculating the true STD(not Marigny way) is very complicated(see Google:standard deviation),because STD has been considered for a long period the only way to beat roulette,but people were wrong.
On the contrary STD explains why we lose for sure at roulette.
If we play 1000 times on a straight number,the most probable number of W is 27,and because of STD there are 95% probabilities that the number of W is between 17 and 37.
If we play 1.000.000 spins there are 95% probabilities that the number of W is between 26703 and 27351.In both case we lose money.
That explains why after 1 million spins all traditional systems fail.
At roulette(like in all other statistical experiments in other areas) there are 68% probabiliies,that the theoretical number of W has a STD 1,    95% that the theoretical number of W has a STD 2,    and 99% a STD 3.
That's why people thought that it was enough to wait for a STD 3 and than attack the cold bet(red,a line ,a street,a straight number).
All wrong,because ther will be forever 1% "free" that corresponds to the exceptional dramatic sessions that sooner or later happen.


Now I come back to the question of MOP.
In 50 spins the equilibrium is 25 Blacks and 25 Reds and in 150 spins 75 B and 75 R
First, is almost impossible to find in a so low number of spins a true STD 3.
But because of my example here above is for sure better to play if you have 3 STD in 50 spins......but,remember,may be you don't know yet(LOL) less 1,35% in the long tem!






A bit complicated but I hope clear

[Robeenhuut]

In plain english  we can not take advantage of STD,law of d 3rd, regression toward d mean n so on in roulette....It sucks.  But it feels nice 2 know d fundamentals of d game. 

[beretta28]

Robeenhut,
you are right,and  what I have illustrated is not in contraddiction with our straight number preference.
Because sure not me but may be nor you will play 1 millions spins in our life.
These numbers are for Casinos that are not worried at all about traditional systems,even if in 30000 spins, a straight number players can win!

[ego]

I test that and i know the result flat betting.
I also have different simulation softwares towards your topic.

[Robeenhuut]

I test that and i know the result flat betting.
I also have different simulation softwares towards your topic.

Bring it on Ego 

[Master_of_pockets]

Thanks for ur replies

[albertojonas]

Let s say that we have a 3 STD on an EC inside 50 spins.
Let s say that we have a 3 STD on an EC inside 150 spins.

Which one is better to bet? Or are they the same?

The lesser spins the better, in my opinion, when your aiming for correction.


Also results seem better when you measure STD based on the law of the series. As explored by Marigny de Grilleau.
Ego is the true expert on this. You may read on Cut Point Method. Look for it.
It is the best that was ever made about Ec betting.




Happy studies.

[albertojonas]

In plain English  we can not take advantage of STD,law of d 3rd, regression toward d mean n so on in roulette....It sucks.  But it feels nice 2 know d fundamentals of d game. 

It is funny to see these empty claims. Can anyone present a method that clearly explores any of the above?

[speed]

 MOP, you are on the right track 

[Master_of_pockets]

so speed saying that i m on the right track , this means that u have made a winning system from it 

[speed]

It may sound ridiculous but I have something that can win on more than 100 000 spins, it can beat every senssion of 150 000 spins and more, but can not win every 100 000 spins, that shows my test on 37 milions spins 

[Master_of_pockets]

U secret keeper 

[ego]

Just want to mention two things that make this topic great or being at the right track.

First 3 std is not uncommon and the bell curve has no limit - but that does not matter as you would never play against anything - so the 3 std could grow to anything with out you losing any money.
The second thing is that there is no other greater feeling to bet on things that is present and have a show and wish has been sleeping for 345 std - i tell you does states chop and that's for sure.

[albertojonas]

Just want to mention two things that make this topic great or being at the right track.

First 3 std is not uncommon and the bell curve has no limit - but that does not matter as you would never play against anything - so the 3 std could grow to anything with out you losing any money.
The second thing is that there is no other greater feeling to bet on things that is present and have a show and wish has been sleeping for 345 std - i tell you does states chop and that's for sure.

One would be a fool to bet for correction without indication and tendency.