YOU can't BEAT ROULETTE

[warrior]

To quote J Holloway you can't beat roulette flat betting,he says to go and play the horses if you want to do that ,and i think this is true,its all about cycles thats it thats all.

[Master_of_pockets]

Yes I agree about roulette.
Any person that has tested a lot in his life and has gained a solid knowledge in roulette knows that roulette can t be beaten because he has seen the negative nature of it.

But here is a roulette forum and we are trying to do our best....so threads like this aren t ok

[warrior]

Yes I agree about roulette.
Any person that has tested a lot in his life and has gained a solid knowledge in roulette knows that roulette can t be beaten because he has seen the negative nature of it.

But here is a roulette forum and we are trying to do our best....so threads like this aren t ok

And why are they not ok? every one has his own oppion.

[Master_of_pockets]

Yes man sure everyone has his opinion.
And a lot of guys (clever ones) in here knows that roulette van t be beaten....but they are here and trying to do the impossible(hopes) .
So by be here and saying that roulette can t be beaten , is a contradiction from its own.....

If u like to think that roulette can t be beaten and u have no more mood to find a winning system , then you are free to leave.

[warrior]

Yes man sure everyone has his opinion.
And a lot of guys (clever ones) in here knows that roulette van t be beaten....but they are here and trying to do the impossible(hopes) .
So by be here and saying that roulette can t be beaten , is a contradiction from its own.....

If u like to think that roulette can t be beaten and You have no more mood to find a winning system , then you are free to leave.

MOP you have a problem reading, because if your read correctly,i said you can't beat roulette FLAT BETTING,TAKE A PILL AND CHILL.YOUR GETTING ON NERVES YOU IDIOT.

[Master_of_pockets]

If we can t win it flat betting , then we can t with progression either. so who is the unintelligent here?
You have a lottttttttttttttttttttt to learn about roulette.

[Evollution]

yes without a good strategy you cant win but if you study a little bit more then just black and red H M L and col 1 2 and 3 you will know that there are some tricks that can make you a consistent winner .. i m referring to live roulette if you play against the computer than yes you cant win it

[warrior]

If we can t win it flat betting , then we can t with progression either. so who is the unintelligent here?
You have a lottttttttttttttttttttt to learn about roulette.

Its because you have no clue about roulette thats why you lose all time i dont lose even with progression oh yes let me teach you something,not explosive proggression do you no what that is,you should look that up ,why are here you have no inttentions of playing roulette everything loses in your eyes ,so take up baby sitting.

[Master_of_pockets]

LOL

[maestro]

if you say cannot be beaten flat bet you have to prove that is not possible

[Steve]

Any person that has tested a lot in his life and has gained a solid knowledge in roulette knows that roulette can t be beaten because he has seen the negative nature of it.

But here is a roulette forum and we are trying to do our best....so threads like this aren t ok

BULL, BULL, BULL. Sorry its not directed at you pockets - it is at everyone who actually believes roulette is not beatable. Sure if you use systems that go about it all the wrong way, you will fail, fail, and fail. Does it mean roulette is plain a negative game?

The truth has all been explained so clearly, and many people choose to ignore it. Mainly because they are looking for some magical easy way to beat roulette. In fact most people dont even play roulette.... they play slot machines with cool roulette animations and thing THAT is roulette, then wonder why they cant beat it. You can only beat real wheels, unless you have a way to predict rng outcomes. The best you will get is hybridroulettecomputer.com but I don't sell them anymore anyway, and don't sell any computers for some time. Next best are non-electronic methods, similar to vb although I don't like vb for many reasons - there are much better methods. And they don't rely on wheel bias or defects.

Back track every little variable from the ball landing to when it is released. Then look at what happens over the long term. Then model the relationship between the variables and spin outcomes. Then model the relationship between variables. Put it all together and gee, you can predict, with reasonable accuracy, where a silly little ball will land. It is sincerely not a big achievement.

[maestro]

thanks steve..i do not know about computers and vb.......but can be beaten impossible things do not exist

[Master_of_pockets]

Yes Steve I know this and for sure roulette can be beaten long run with vb and bias.

BUT in this forum , as You know , we speak mostly about systems that don't include the physics of the wheel, and this is why I said that..i was referring to every way except Advantage-play.

I have a great understanding in VB and I was also a successful vb player in the old days were the wheels were different...now i can t find the needed conditions so that s why i have stop playing and i am fooling around trying to make the impossible(find a way to win without Advantage-play ).
Call it a hobby , call it a silly hope....

As for the  *****Back track every little variable from the ball landing to when it is released. Then look at what happens over the long term. Then model the relationship between the variables and spin outcomes. Then model the relationship between variables. Put it all together and gee, you can predict, with reasonable accuracy, where a silly little ball will land. It is sincerely not a big achievement***** that u said , i don't think its a correct way to do it , simply because there a lot of factors as rotor speed, DDs , different revolutions in the spins and scatter , that makes what you said a random game(-2.7)....
There are a lot of players in my casino ,mostly older people , that are doing what u say and they mostly lose.

[Steve]

we speak mostly about systems that don't include the physics of the wheel, and this is why I said that..i was referring to every way except Advantage-play.

To be perfectly accurate, it is not that advantage play is the only way to beat roulette. It is that you cannot beat roulette without increasing accuracy of predictions. Why is explained as clearly as I can make it at link:://:.genuinewinner.com/truth.html

An advantage player will tell a system player all the time 1 + 1 does not = 5. And thats why systems dont work. They are just saying what the above page says, but most system players dont understand ikt, or care to try and understand it. the system player's reaction is "oh those darn advantage players are snobs, telling everyone THEIR way is the best.... they are not gods like they think". Meanwhile the AP is saying "geez when will those dopey system players ever learn if you dont increase accuracy of predictions, you CANNOT escape the unfair payouts (house edge)... and progression is nothing more than different size bets on different spins.... with the same unfair payout whether they win or lose."

I see both sides. We were all "system" players once. I am say all this until I'm blue in the face, and still 90% of people will look at me and go "huh??". If you read someone's biography and learn from their mistakes, it is like living another life of lessons". FFS, everyone please understand WHY systems fail and wtf I'm talking about. Only then will the forums stop going around and around in circles.

Understand WHY 99% of approaches are all the same thing repacked a different way, then you will understand what you must focus on, which is......

Instead of developing "systems", focus on ways to increase the accuracy of predictions. When you achieve increased accuracy, THEN focus on your system.

I have a great understanding in VB and I was also a successful vb player in the old days were the wheels were different...now i can t find the needed conditions so that s why i have stop playing and i am fooling around trying to make the impossible(find a way to win without Advantage-play ).

This is because you arent considering all the variables and their effects. If you just look at the reference number with about X revolutions to go, then the ball outcome, its not enough for most modern wheels. You need more. But that "more" is too much without a good computer, so I find VB is a waste of time in most cases, as are simplistic computers because its the same thing as vb. You can do much better with bets before ball release, but not on every wheel. More than enough wheels.

Call it a hobby , call it a silly hope....

Yes but the thing is Understand that advantage play is just another term for physics. Physics is the study of everything and to refute or try to avoid basic universal laws is like saying you aren't Interested in increasing the accuracy of predictions, but that's exactly what you need. Believe me, I understand the hobby aspect, but it is a bit like masturbation without the payoff.

Regarding backtracking, if you do it incorrectly of course you will not understand cause and effect. Any incorrect understanding will of course lead to failure. Everything is cause-and-effect.

[Steve]

I wasn't aware that self-pleasure is a censored word. Master-bation that is. I may need to change that. I use voice recognition software now and thought it was censoring my potty mouth.

The diner not diner vagina that someone that's the one I said thank you stupid software