New Tomla Thing

[Tomla021]

 This one is complicated to explain, the suck part is the only way I can think of playing it is straight marty. I'm testing bacc now but it might be super duper on roulette......
Been testing Bacc shoes around 100 so far and no losses over 6 in a row and that happened once.Ok heres the theory for bacc i split the player  into two separete bets. ok heres the basic idea,,,play Red (it could be Black also) on Follow the last (could be OLD etc) but divide it, make it two separate Red bets R1,R2. On  triggers your first bet is R1, second bet R2. When you get A RRR it will clear out both lines on a Marty bet by giving 2 Wins   
Any Red that shows up bet a Red after any RRR will wipe out both progressions (win)
Say you have a 20 RBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRB chop each red would only be at a 5 loss stageP1 LLLLL P2 LLLLL ,, Just playing Red instead of playing Red and Black eliminates 10 losses, by dividing Red into two alternate bets each red line is only at 5 losses
RR will give a win to one side RRR will clear both let me know if your following me here?

. Im looking for any alternatives to straight Marty , which I hate!!! This is a new idea I think and my testing has been good but it doesnt give extra wins or anything it just shortens the distance to a win on two lines

[Tomla021]

R
B  R1=L
R
B R2=L
B
R  R1=LL
B
B
R 
B R2=LL
B
R
R R1=LLW
B R2=LLL
B
R
B R1=LLWL
R
B R2=LLLL
R
R R1=LLWLW
B P2=LLLLL
R
R P1=LLWLW
R P2=LLLLLW

3 dark Reds finish it off
So far in testing its been really hard to see more than 5-6 losses in a row but Im deathly afraid of playing martys....

[Wally Gator]

Tom,


Interesting concept.  Have you tried this using George's modified Marty prog ... i.e. 1,2,4,8,5,7,9,12,16,etc ....  the first 4 are Marty and then you need to hits in a row to get back to 0.


Maybe a possibility. 

[Tomla021]

Wally, That Frigging GLC has a new progression every minute (Joking)....
Im trying all kinds of stuff.. Labbys, different types of Labbys, progressions, did 11224488 yesterday. I was concentrating on Bacc ,but as you know $25 dollar start puts you deep in the hole 1,2,4,8,16,32, 64
I think it could be perfect for online roulette or airball roulette $1 start in a casino. Im a hand tester so its slow going testing
On roulette you could have 12 lines going at once with colors, high low and even odd
One thing I was trying is waiting for two losses and playing etc

[GLC]

Tom,  I've got a new progression for you.      Just kidding!

Hey I was testing this and I noticed that by betting R1 & R2 every other time, sometimes I'm getting lucky on one of  them and unlucky on the other and the one I'm getting lucky on stays at 1 or 2  unit bets and the one I getting unlucky on climbed to the 32 unit level.  I got lucky and won on the 32 unit bet, but I could have lost just as easily.

Maybe we could do something like keeping the bets balanced out.  So if we get to R1=8 and R2=2 we could add them together and divide by 2.  So 8+2=10/2=5.  Now R1=5 and R2=5.  If we needed to we could even introduce an R3 and R4 if the bets start getting too high.

The down side is that we will have to win more small bets to make up for winning 1 large bet, but it should help keep our bets low.

By the way, "$25 units?"    Are you crazy?

[Tomla021]

That might work George C... There are two ways of betting this and the results are diff. I have to run but will post later.

[Tomla021]

George you must have hit WLWL and that sets up the one line winning and the second not.. This wont change the overall pattern but will split the losses and shorten the time till a win on each line. So you had 5 losses but did hit on 6. Thats why I like this on a 1$ table and not on a $25 table my friend. If I did 100 shoes in baccarat tha'ts equivalent to about 600 spins and I never went past 6 losses

[Tomla021]

heres from a friend testing on baccarat :

"I just tested 30 shoes using the same idea with the bank also. So I have B1, B2, P1, & P2. The only thing I did was wait for two loses for each one and started betting Marty. So far I haven't gone beyond 3 loses in a row. Vey interesting! BTW, my shoes are from my live play."__________________

[GARNabby]

Hi Tomla,

Sorry for my delay in getting back to your enquiry.  The last few days, i was helping someone move; and, i don't come see a lot of value in visiting this site.
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Getting back to your new idea, no reason to split up your betting progression... use the best one all of the time.

Incidentally, you certainly exhibit an intuitive ability to frame a strategy (in general).  What you want to do with this idea is to make the other "betting progression" more about betting the other side... about mixing it up.

Then, you will be more-likely, and at least allow for the possibility, to encounter either a lot of wins, or a lot of losses. (Betting only one side all the time will rarely match much of a sequence of outcomes.)  A wider range of possible performance over which your base strategies of baccarat's P/B, or roulette's R/B, can have a greater effect.

And, using both sides, say P1 and B1, as pitted against each other but together, can enhance that extreme variance.  (Trying to even out stuff like betting progressions is the strategically-WRONG way to go with the near-even bets.  Better to pursue the fundamentally-dominant "unbalanced theme" than the weak "balanced theme".)

Another interesting thing, you focused in on a sequence of outcomes of length three.  Probably the best length with which to work, but not going into detail here and now.  Hint, use a positive progression, you can always properly increase that by much-smaller increments.