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A modification on the Boffins Bet

Started by Master_of_pockets, Aug 01, 07:30 PM 2012

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Master_of_pockets

Most of you already know the Boffins Bet.
It s a very FUN TO PLAY system but unfortunatelly is a long run loser...although if the spins will favour the system ,we can have very nice wins with it.(like all systems)

I have thought of 2 modifications on this bet that may produce better and safer results.
So I need your opinions(especially egos that has already tested and modified the bet a lot)

1)Instead of playing all the bets mechanicly and just reset to 1 chip every EC that won the 2 stages of the betting, I suggest reseting ALL Ecs to 1 chip when we are in a NEW OVERAL PROFIT,no matter if the bet won only the 1st stage(it happend very often).

2)Seperate the 1 Ec Bank into 2 banks.
eg R-B.
when we have 2or more runs of a RED and then a Black (trigger) it will be the 1 bank and when we have 2or more runs of a BLACK and then a RED it will be an other bank....so seperate banks on all Ecs....

Please let me know your opinions.

For those that aren t familliar with the Bofins bet...here it is:

""""""""""""""THE BET! …..Stage one!


It is an “outside” even money bet.
I.e.,   Red or Black, Odd or Even, High or Low.
It is a leave it on to double, treated as one bet

For the purpose of explaining this bet we will just use Red and Black.  You follow the others in identical pattern as shown in the example below.

Any number of same Reds or Blacks two or over in a row is the figure you must look for. Ie. 2 â€"3 â€"4 â€"5 â€"6 etc.

You wait for a change of colour to occur, then bet the same as your run of two or more. In other words Not the change colour. The penultimate colour! (one before last)

This bit is crucial to this bet…. On a win..You must leave it “Ride” once on the same bet.  You now have two units running to complete the double.

ie. You have placed one unit from your “Bank” as per the bet, and take four (4) off for a win

All losses = 1 unit.  (if lose at stage one or two!)
All Wins = 3 units profit (you have only bet one unit…but take four off) for each unit you bet.
That is the basic bet.


THE same BET……Stage two

Because this bet is based on the most staple and safest of movements on a Roulette table, you now have to take advantage of this fact. And this is how you do it.

After any loss you increase your bet by one unit only. And you stop the increase at a win! You will have won an amount as per the calculator below

Because you are getting a “return” of 4 to 1 on this bet, you can go to times six, and still make a profit of three units.

BET AND RETURN CALCULATOR:
Bet 1 units = bet total =  1 = 4       returned  Win 3
Bet 2 units = bet total =  3 = 8       returned  Win 5
Bet 3 units = bet total =  6 = 12     returned  Win 6
Bet 4 units = bet total = 10 = 16    returned  Win 6
Bet 5 units = bet total = 15 = 20    returned  Win 5
Bet 6 units = bet total = 21 = 24    returned  Win 3
Bet 7 units = bet total = 28 = 28    returned  Win 0
STOP DO NOT BET. Take a O loss or 28 unit loss

NOTE!  It will happen! You will lose a 28 unit mini-bank now and again. Your win ratio will always exceed any losses by a big margin. Consistent playing will give you better Mean Average Returns. (M.A.R.)

IF THIS DOES EVER HAPPEN WE RECOMMEND YOU TAKE THE SAFE ROUTE. STOP! YOU HAVE LOST A MINI-BANK. WRITE IT OFF AS A LOSS! DO NOT DOUBLE YOUR BANK!
NOW REVERT TO ONE UNIT AGAIN TO START THE PROCEDURE WITH A NEW 28 unit Mini-Bank AS PER THE BET  STAGE ONE AND TWO.

This bet is well profitable enough to stand the occasional loss of a “bank” now and then. In Roulette odd things do happen from time to time, but they also work in your favour as you will see some extraordinary long winning runs!

Over any reasonable period and regular betting to gain the M.A.R this bet will return far more winning sessions of 30 units and perhaps a few losing ones of 28 units


Never change this formula! We know on certain occasions that a different approach would profit better?….but you MUST look at this bet as a LONG TERM proposition. And long term following the formula will PAY BETTER PROFITS!

That’s it…..it is that simple! Please don’t make the mistake in underestimating how profitable this can be.

You must now understand that this bet must be used in conjunction with the “Whole” formula as laid out below.

YOUR BANK:
We always use and recommend a Mini-Bank of 28 units, for each of the outside bets you are betting. Plus a backup Bank for each one. We call these mini-banks. If you lose a mini-bank do not DOUBLE your next!  Just write it off.
There is a “factor” built into this bet called
The Mean Average Return.

This is the Golden Key you must never change!
Let this “WORK” for you. You cannot beat it, or “Know” when it is working to your advantage. Follow the instructions exact
Do not GAMBLE or you will lose!
You must have one “BACK-UP” bank for each of the bets you are betting. This will ensure you should never have a losing session.

THE SESSION:
This is not a fixed session bet! This is a “Target” bet
We have researched all the possibilities of this bet, and for many reasons this bet is best treated as a “Hit and Run bet!

Not least of all you can exploit the short time factor that many sessions will give you.(you can do many sessions per day)
So this is a set Profit Target Bet. The optimum target is 30 units of bet (thirty) At this figure you get the maximum return for time and profit   YOU HAVE JUST DOUBLED YOUR BANK! plus expenses!  Playing outside of these figures will increase your risk factor a little from what is a safe bet. Professionals should play safe at all times.


THE RULES:
The most important rule you must obey is “Win and Walk”
This not only protects your profits, but also gives you as a Professional player, protection from detection!

There is just one very important “Rule” to apply here, and that is applied always!

Finish playing on a WINNING BET!

Note! Silly gamblers finish on a losing bet?

SIMPLE EXAMPLE USING ONLY RED AND BLACK: * = change

R
R
B   *        These stars* represent a change! Ok!  Bet after any change!
B         bet 1 unit red and lose 
B
R   *   
B         bet 2 units black and win…….leave on black to double
B         bet wins     Win=5 (total of 3 units on) you take 8 units off
B
R   *   
R         bet 1 unit and lose   
B   * 
B         bet 2 units lose   
B
R   *
B         bet 3 units black and win…leave on black to double         
B         bet wins    Win =6  (total of 6 units bet) you take 12 units off
R   *
B         bet 1 unit and win…..leave on to double
B         bet wins    Win = 3 ( total of 1unit bet) You take 4 units off
R   *
ETC.
ETC.   (in the example you have won 14 points)

REMEMBER AFTER ANY WIN REVERT TO ONE UNIT BET!
A LOSS OF SEVEN IN A ROW MEANS YOU HAVE LOST A MINI-BANK…REVERT TO NEW BANK AND START AT 1 UNIT.

 
You can see now how you can simultaneously bet all three of the outside bets, as per the “formula” as soon as you have learned one correctly. THIS WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO DO!
I.e.   Red/Black…Odd/Even…High/Low
In Europe you can use the cards to record, but in areas where they frown upon this you will have to develop your own secret system. Just takes a bit of thought! A good idea wherever you are if you are a full-time professional.

ONE FINAL POINT ON THIS BET!
You will find that only one or two of the three bets will streak ahead, whilst the other one or two will show a smaller profit each.
Therefore do not guess like a gambler?  Eventually bet all three to get that important overall Mean Average Return.

It will take some effort on your part to learn perfection, but the returns are better than much harder efforts in other careers.

BE A REAL PROFESSIONAL….AND COLLECT THE REWARDS!"""""""""""
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

Ralph

If somebody call a method "Hit and run", I use to pay less attention to the method. I take it as a signal, it may lose in short time. Whats my option. (Any method may lose at the first attempt).

I tested in real play this morning around 400 spins. Highest bet were six, and I won.
At the one line casino I can not spin without betting, so during tracking I have to place bet.

I won some more from this play.

During tracking, we wait for a change, and and if we get long runs of the same EC, tracking is many spins. I use to place a cent on an EC during tracking. This time I did two methods at the same time.

After at least two of the same,and a change, I bet on the  color running before the change, and parlay once.

During a run I did progressions on winning. 2,2,3,3,4,4,6,6.......

I did have some  long runs, that's the reason I won more tracking.

Some periods it was just chops, then I was trying to follow with a flat bet.

I think it's a good way to make this combination, specially if you must bet all spins. Both methods should win, if one win it is high probability both will win, as chopping all the time is that we do not want here, runs a change and then a run (which is quite common pattern).
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Master_of_pockets

"""If somebody call a method "Hit and run", I use to pay less attention to the method. I take it as a signal, it may lose in short time""""

Yes this is correct...but I already posted that the original method is a Long Run loser.

There are a lot of MM plans to play this bet....

The bet is not a winner from it s own....it has the same probability to win or to lose like any other bet.
The only reason that is the best bet to chose when u need 2 stages betting is because with this bet , no other bets are involved from the same Ec.
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

Master_of_pockets

2 more ways to play it are :

1)use 1 1 1 2 2 3 4   5    7      in this play we have 9 shots and not just 7
          2 2 2 4 4 6 8  10  14   

2)when we win the 1st stage of the bet(the change) we do not bet the double on the 2nd stage(run).
Instead of double , we keep some chips of the 1st win ,so even if the 2nd bet will lose, we still keep some chips.

any variation will be a loser, because the bet selection isn t superior than the others.
But what I am saying is that it s fun to play with it....

If u can think of a better way to play it , then u are welcomed
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

vladir

How many times you think we can win before loosing this progression 2 times in a row, one after another?

I was thinking about playing this with a 0,10â,¬ bet until lost (-2,8â,¬). Then, play it for recovery just for 1 win, with an initial 3â,¬ bet, and go back playing with a 0,10â,¬ bet (if lost, -84).

What do you think? Can this make more then -84 before loosing?

"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

TwoCatSam

Hey

If you're interested in winning some money, you might take a look at this bet.  I just won 20 trots in a row at 1u each.  Not bad for an hour's work. 

Won about 60 Euro or so......

AND........that was only on r/b.  Still two other ECs I have not touched.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Robeenhuut

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Aug 18, 11:32 PM 2012
Hey

If you're interested in winning some money, you might take a look at this bet.  I just won 20 trots in a row at 1u each.  Not bad for an hour's work. 

Won about 60 Euro or so......

AND........that was only on r/b.  Still two other ECs I have not touched.

Sam

Hello Sam

So did you reset after being in profit in each trot?  Actually i wonder why its not played this way more often.  Its damn hard go more than 10 steps without 2 consecutive losses with any bet selection.  ;D

Regards
Matt

Ralph

Playing around with this bet, using 1 cent at BV. When I saw I got up to 100 cent plus, I checked and saw I could have done it with 7 units bankroll.

I played on black, and this time the blacks were frequent.

Using an other bet I lost 10000 units, while trying to find a progression for it.

I am sure it could be the opposite an other day.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Master_of_pockets

Yes it could.
All bet have the same power/weekness.
Its the fun part and the nice MM that makes this system nice.
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

Robeenhuut

I would not use any progression with that.  After seeing few series of chops i would take my chances with FTL bet.  I dont use any bots so i have a different perspective.  ;D
Matt

Master_of_pockets

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Aug 19, 09:29 AM 2012
I would not use any progression with that.  After seeing few series of chops i would take my chances with FTL bet.  I don't use any bots so i have a different perspective.  ;D

If we are gonna think with this way , then we must not use any progression with anything.
But sure a 1,2 flat betting will do the same job with any double bet.
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Aug 19, 09:32 AM 2012
If we are gonna think with this way , then we must not use any progression with anything.
But sure a 1,2 flat betting will do the same job with any double bet.

I meant that i would not increase a base bet after losing few trots but i would just play to be in a profit in each trot.
Matt

Ralph

still playing around with this now 150 up.  Testing to use just one chip after  the ride fails, and go up if I succeed.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Master_of_pockets

I have tested it with that way Ralph and it works the same....some fluxuations will favour the negative progression and some the positive...as with all systems...its matter of what is happening during play, nothing is steady.

Are u playing all the Ecs at the same time or only RB?
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

Ralph

I use just colors, as I try to get a very small bankroll to grow(just for fun).
Play 1 cent chip, and start with  7 units and are up  to 234.

I think progress on loss, have better chance.  Many wins in a row are less frequent than one win.
You have to win once in six times to not fall back. Then allways restart on one.

If I play all EC:s at the time they will even out the loss/win. 

If you use all EC:s   it may bet safer to reset all on new high. Not sure, you must have won some
betfore a session lost.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

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