So what I have learned is that, for me at least, it's manifestation. Ironically I now realise that in all likelihood the "systems" people who for years I didn't believe could possibly beat the Maths could well be doing so as they are unknowingly manifesting a winning system as they totally believe in it.
Once I understood we can actively change our reality, roulette loses importance although I'm grateful that I was interested as it got me to where I am now.
I'd suggest if you are interested going over to Reddit and joining r/NevilleGoddard, r/JosephMurphy and r/lawofattraction and getting hold of a copy of The Power Of Your Subconscious Mind by Murphy.

Very interesting, this is something that I thought about as well. I totally believe in manifestation and have done so before actively in my life with other things. I guess this could also very well be another form of manifestation or actually precognition as nowun described - I know bet on 1 or 2 numbers max, and when it truly comes, it hits you like a light bulb I can confirm this. This is when I place the bet with 0 doubt and knowing already that it will hit.

For myself the idea of beating casino (for any amount) gives me a lot of joy and the possibility of in the future of earning a potential decent supplemental income with this is very attractive.

I have been playing for small stakes (20 cents online and 1 euro live at casino) and have had quite a bit of success. Playing for money is a lot more psychologically challenging than playing for play money and this is why I would recommend to shift into real money once you know you win at least a little more than break even on consistent basis.


This is really the future of AP imo and it's something that cannot be countered or stopped in any way.

Good to hear you are having success and agree, it is a knowing that something will come to pass which is key to the process. It's not an easy thing to get to, it's almost like you have to have success to realise that it actually works, that then removes self doubt and it gets easier after that.
Re. Your earlier question, please let me if you find a decent discord group, I'm always interested in improving. I have joined a couple and posted about this but it didn't really get any traction as it was more of a general spiritual group so lots of different interests.

Quote from: Klausy on Aug 04, 03:34 PM 2023... please let me if you find a decent discord group, I'm always interested in improving. I have joined a couple and posted about this but it didn't really get any traction as it was more of a general spiritual group so lots of different interests.

Me too, more interested in practical use in daily life instead of spiritual discussions. As far as I have explored, there are at least 4 phases in precognition: 1) noise - results not useful 2) result second close to answer 3) result usually next to answer 4) result = answer. For ordinary people who can't maintain consistent drill, phase 2 is the most common phase we could achieve. Did you find similarly or different?

Coming from a manifestation angle, I find that if you want success then it's phases 2 and 3 as if you bet defensively (bet adjacent numbers or finals) then the bankroll will increase slowly - slightly more wins than losses.
To speed success up, there needs to be a real commitment to a specific number and an unwavering belief that it will arrive.

I agree klausy. From my research I believe it is about manifestation too. I believe now that there is a type of force that influences all our actions. Learning how to harness this force is what many ancient societies did in the past, through ritual magic, offerings prayers etc. This force was deified into gods like fortuna or lakshmi. No matter what you do in life this force influences it.

The best approach I think is to try theurgy. Magic to do with bonding could also be a good try.

Not heard of theurgy but looks very interesting. I'm able to manifest but don't understand how I'm able to do it and why sometimes it comes easily and other times not at all, this looks like it might be able to provide some answers.

@Klausy I think it could very well be a manifestation (As I used some techniques for other things in life), but what I found is that I still have success even when I have some doubt and not exactly sure about the number. So the question for me is, how useful is viewing it from a manifestation angle to achieve the result?

I have re-read Nowun's thread at least 5 times and found his thread to be the most useful, and he didn't mention manifestation in there. Although it could easily be manifestation and he may not be even aware of it, who knows

@Precogmiles Good to see that you are still around! How is your progress with this? Are you still practicing and playing?

Will be forever grateful to you for creating this thread on precognition - you motivated and opened me to this world of precognition/manifestation

Hey winforus, good to see you aer doing well. I still practice everyday. I get good results but my aim is to understand why and how this phenomena happens so I'm focusing on that.

I believe there are multiple objective realities. As strange as that sounds I it makes sense when you see this world as an illusion or shadow of true reality.

Concentration plays a big role in manifestation or magic. Read about Bill bengston and his image cycling technique it works for healing.

The force I mentioned previously is like the wind current or anything else that has fluid motion. The techniques you need are like building sails on a boat or jet engines for a plane. But even the best ships or planes sink and crash.

The relationship between precognition and manifestation is interesting and seems contradictory but once you accept the idea of multiple objective realities it seems more clear.

Check out the roulette warriors YouTube channel, they do the same as nowun, but gave more insights. They talk about manifestation too. I didn't understand it initially but now makes much more sense.

Ultimately none of this is new, the ancients have talked about these ideas for thousands of years. We just need to go back and read.

Winforus, re. your point to me (sorry can't work out how to quote)
@Klausy I think it could very well be a manifestation (As I used some techniques for other things in life), but what I found is that I still have success even when I have some doubt and not exactly sure about the number. So the question for me is, how useful is viewing it from a manifestation angle to achieve the result?

I find for me what works best is the concept of living in the end that Neville Goddard spoke of. You might be betting on a 15. The concept is that you already have the 15 as if pressing the spin button automatically returns a 15. The most important aspect is the feeling state, an assumption that it is already decided and you need not attach any importance to it and it's like flicking a light switch where you know the light will come on, you don't need to hope the bulb lights up, it's an automatic assumption that it will happen. Hoping is you assuming the number can arrive but the odds say it won't, you need to feel that it's already there and what is displayed on screen will show just that.
It's not an easy concept to successfully practice but Goddard, Murphy et al say that when you truly grasp it, your subconscious that creates this reality has no choice but to give it to you.

@Precogmiles Are you still practicing for play money or have you already shifted into practicing with small stakes? And what is your end goal with this?

I can definitely accept the idea of multiple objective realities. And I agree that concentration and fully being present in the moment is the key - this will allow you to separate the noise from your precognition/intuition.

@Klausy My approach is very similar. I just try to feel the numbers and once the number shows up - it's like a lightbulb, I have 0 doubt in my mind that it will come and it always comes. Nowun also mentioned this - the only difference is how you explain this phenonemon I guess.

Once I was able to see the difference between the noise in the mind and made up numbers vs actual numbers that came up with precognition - it changed everything for me.

The only challenge is once the number comes, it can be hard for me to get the next number due to excitement or sometimes it's just noise, so this is something I am still working on.

@winforus, If I could make a suggestion, you could try manifesting clarity, ie. before you begin be confident that you will have a really successful session with no noise and will take all your wins in your stride and really believe what you are telling yourself.
When I think back to my pre-Manifestation days, I remember being more successful when I was in a good frame of mind but I didn't think to try to get into that mindset beforehand.

@Klausy What I found was that if I am done with all the tasks and responsibilities for the day and free, then almost always I will have a successful session. If I am stressed about something or something now is on my mind that requires to be solved - I avoid playing. I guess it can vary from person to person, as everyone's minds work differently.

Being able to be present in the moment, relaxed and focused just on Roulette is really the key, and I guess how to get in this state can be done in different ways.

This is the reason why I don't play everyday or much as I want to, such as during the challenging times of my marketing business.