Hello! Airball machine

[Turner]

Breaking even is really cool.
I would love to play a shoe table. UK is all CSM.

[AlleyCat316]

Really? i would imagine everyone there is as suspicious as people here. Most casinos have done the switch to CSMs, but most reputable casinos still have non-automatic tables. Especially where I love in Tampa, the Hard Rock is the only show in town, (and also third largest casino in the US, and the sixth largest casino in the world) so to keep everyone there they try to keep it diverse. 110 Tables, 5000 slots, and and over 50 poker tables. So, it keeps it interesting. =p

[Turner]

Really? i would imagine everyone there is as suspicious as people here. Most casinos have done the switch to CSMs, but most reputable casinos still have non-automatic tables. Especially where I love in Tampa, the Hard Rock is the only show in town, (and also third largest casino in the US, and the sixth largest casino in the world) so to keep everyone there they try to keep it diverse. 110 Tables, 5000 slots, and and over 50 poker tables. So, it keeps it interesting. =p

according to Roulette spider, the CSM gives 0.1% favour back to the player in house edge, and was more used to be able to play 20% more sessions per hour due to eliminating shuffling etc. So even though it kills card counting....who was card counting? About the same as people playing VB in roulette I guess. I don't think CC worried them as much as the card counters made out. Just more games played to get more cash into the casino.

[AlleyCat316]

I agree with you absolutely. I've seen a guy taken off a table once for card counting. They were very nice about it. They asked him to enjoy some other game, and gave him a meal comp. That was it.

[ausguy]

Alleycat - another thought if you're playing Interblock & if you are recording your bets is to note how many other players are also playing. My thinking is that the game may give you more wins too if in total most bet options are covered by multiple players ?

When you won the two previous sessions & the losing one do you recall how many other players were there?

What type of wheels are available ?  Any single zero wheels or are they all 0 & 00 ?  Have you considered playing live dealer chip roulette ? I'm down here in OZ land & roulette is mostly single zero. All blackjack games have continuous shuffling machines so card counting is useless. Even if it could be done I'd fail at it anyway.

Whatever game you play it is important to have sufficient bank roll to cover your progressions or bet plan.  Casinos just love all the millions of players that bet low & are too afraid to push larger amounts out. All too many make uneven chip placements & so lose more than they win.

Are you aware there's a section here on CC on money management = MM ? Tracking your play & bets goes along way towards betting success. Even if you lose your bet sheets can often ID areas to improve, many of us here are still learning.

[ADulay]

ADulay how have you fared with all your Interblock plays over time ?  In total in the red or in the black ?

As roulette is NOT my primary game, I only play it when killing time and for grins every now and then.

I am ahead all of $55 at the Brighton casino and up EXACTLY $40 at Immokalee.  How do I know that?  Well, the only time I played the Immokalee machine, it was two wagers during my first test of the machine.  $20 on black.  Pulled my $20 and let the win ride.  It won.   I saw what I came to see (the minimums and all that) and wanted to make sure it was the same machine as in Brighton where I had played many spins.  Brighton had me down about $30 my first time in but I got back on track playing a modified "S42" and it just started giving the money all back, and then some!   By the time we left, I cashed out for $105.  I had fed $50 in so that netted my $55.

In the future, should I decide to play these machines again, I will try to keep my results and wagers to post up here.  They may not be worth anything to anybody as they most probably won't be over 20-30 spins anyway.  I didn't keep any record of these plays as I wasn't planning on staying longer than a dozen or so spins anyway.  I generally track and record all time at the tables though.  I'll write down the results from the airball machine next time for sure.

We'll play it by ear next time out.

AD

[AlleyCat316]

Ausguy - I do recall that the first time I played, it was very busy. The second time, it began pretty busy, but only had one other player by the end of my session. The last time, it was fairly busy and I still ate the 100. All the G4 Organic wheels are 00 wheels, we do have some RNG slots that are European. We don't have a live dealer, sadly - as it is banned by our state's constitution specificially. Live is always my favorire. I have been checking out the MM forum, and I know. I love the idea comparing MM vs the Odds formula of certain rolls occuring over a long stretch of spins.

I've never taken my numbers home to analyze them, but I plan to next session. I'm currently working on a system what will need the spins to test anyway. I'm an IT professional, and it seems to me that while LD, RNG, and Airball all look like roulette, and play by similar rules - they are really all totally different games. With that said, the rules can only go so far in making you a successeful roulette player, as your system has to be designed for your specific roulette, and not just roulette in general. Further, systems should also be designed for your specific version of the game. (As every number generator has slightly different programming, and every airball or live wheel has slightly different materials, dealer signature, or mechanics)

So, to that end I'm working for a system that will work best with my specific Airball game. Now, I know house edge, and all the pertinent information, and I know the odds on every bet vs the return, payouts, and probabilities - but I will still attempt to figure it out. While the roulette board may be perfect, the wheel is not - specifically a computerized one. I also, recently had the experience at this table that when I put $20 in, it gave me credit for $70. The point is, as a computer guy - I know every computer has a flaw, error, or peculiarity somehere. I will try to find the one on this airball machine.