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Started by amk, Jun 06, 03:17 PM 2011

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atlantis

Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 07, 06:15 AM 2011
I've tested this out. its not as good return, because you need to triple the bets. but you need martingale progression for it to work. usually you rarely see a pattern repeat. so that's why you win. but small win only.
If you start with 3/3, it can quickly end up blowing the bankroll. whereas with R/B you only need to double the bet.

Maybe you could apply it to H/L and O/E WITH MARTY:

LEHE
HOHO +1 ON 1ST
HELO  +1 ON 2ND
LEHO  +1 ON 1ST
HOHO  +1 ON 1ST
LOHO  +1 ON 1ST
HOHE  +1 ON 1ST
HOLO  +1 ON 3RD
HELE   +1 ON 2ND
LOHE   +1 ON 1ST
HEHE   +1 ON 1ST
HELE   +1 ON 3RD

+11 IN 48 SPINS.


Here is same session using OPPOSITE/SAME alternation:

LEHE
HOHO +1 ON 1ST (OPP)
HELO  +1 ON 1ST (SAME)
LEHO  +1 ON 1ST (OPP)
HOHO  +1 ON 3RD (SAME)
LOHO  +1 ON 1ST  (OPP)
HOHE  +1 ON 2ND  (SAME)
HOLO  +1 ON 3RD  (OPP)
HELE   +1 ON 1ST  (SAME)
LOHE   +1 ON 1ST  (OPP)
HEHE   +1 ON 3RD (SAME)
HELE   +1 ON 3RD  (OPP)

+11 in 48 spins.

A.

Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Halba1

hello atlantis. thats a much better system you provided. you don't need to triple your bets.

Halba1

Quote from: atlantis on Jun 07, 07:13 AM 2011
Maybe you could apply it to H/L and O/E WITH MARTY:

LEHE
HOHO +1 ON 1ST
HELO  +1 ON 2ND
LEHO  +1 ON 1ST
HOHO  +1 ON 1ST
LOHO  +1 ON 1ST
HOHE  +1 ON 1ST
HOLO  +1 ON 3RD
HELE   +1 ON 2ND
LOHE   +1 ON 1ST
HEHE   +1 ON 1ST
HELE   +1 ON 3RD

+11 IN 48 SPINS.


Here is same session using OPPOSITE/SAME alternation:

LEHE
HOHO +1 ON 1ST (OPP)
HELO  +1 ON 1ST (SAME)
LEHO  +1 ON 1ST (OPP)
HOHO  +1 ON 3RD (SAME)
LOHO  +1 ON 1ST  (OPP)
HOHE  +1 ON 2ND  (SAME)
HOLO  +1 ON 3RD  (OPP)
HELE   +1 ON 1ST  (SAME)
LOHE   +1 ON 1ST  (OPP)
HEHE   +1 ON 3RD (SAME)
HELE   +1 ON 3RD  (OPP)

+11 in 48 spins.

A.



excellent system. 100% strike rate, lower risk than P/B. worth a go on BETVOYAGER n/zero

amk

Hello everyone!

Really nice to see so many knowledgeable people reviewing this new method...

JohnLegend I agree FANTASTIC 4 does the method justice, how can I change the title in the Testing Zone? How are you playing it at the moment?

Warrior, to answer your question I played consecutively. You should only play hit and run. I played consecutively to see what HIT AND RUN will look like. PATTERN 4 played consecutively does not perform anywhere near as good as played HIT AND RUN. This is the aspect which could give FANTASTIC 4 it's superpower...

Example         2B1C
                     1A1C
                     2C1C
                     2C2A .... 4rth pattern for 2B1C
                     3A1C .....4rth pattern for 1A1C  etc.. This is consecutively only play HIT AND RUN

Clothdog, in real play if you win your first or second bet you stop (JohnLegend I believe is playing until a 3rd bet). Go to another table or wait for a good 15 minutes then play again. This is just the beginning stages of this method and we have many great minds working out how to best play it...

Vundarosa, I think you understand the method now, right??

Halba1, this is ofcourse the beginning of this method. We just have to keep testing it to draw a solid conclusion. I will be testing it over 1000 live spins and post the results. If the first and second bets strikerate remains the same then I think there is nothing to fear....

Atlantis, an honor to hear from you. Your approach with combing HL and OE could just do the trick as well.... I will run some test but would be great if you could take the lead.... I think it if we create a playing program which uses all the spins that are coming in we could play 5 or 6 methods back to back in a very short timeframe then start the cycle again...

For example first play PATTERN 4, we have 12 spins, we just need 4 more spins to play FANTASTIC 4, then we can directly switch to MATRIX VERTICAL H&L, then switch to DIVIDE AND CONQUER etc...  We can take advantage of the spins given us to create a playing "package" This could then all fall under one name......

atlantis

Quote from: amk on Jun 07, 08:28 AM 2011
Your approach with combing HL and OE could just do the trick as well...

I think the FANTASTIC 4 is a great idea  - so will be sure to check it out. I agree with your points about hit and run too.

In the meantime I came up with this *idea* similar to my earlier posted method.

Instead of using martingale can be played as follows...

Record as before matrix 4 lines for H/L, O/E, H/L, O/E results.

Stop at first win on each line as before.

Commence betting with 1unit.

This time EACH BET is played alternately instead of EACH LINE ; Individual bets are made OPPOSITE then SAME then OPPOSITE then SAME etc...

I stay with the same unit value until a win occurs on that line - or all four bets on that line are lost.

After each betting line sequence is completed, I check the overall balance and bet accordingly.
The chart below illustrates when I increase the value of a bet, stay at the same level and reduce to the starting bet (1u)

LEHE
HOHO +1 on 1st (opp)     bal= +1*
HELO  +1 on 1st (same)  bal= +2*
LEHO  +1 on 1st (opp)     bal= +3*
HOHO  -1 on 1st (same) ; +1 on 2nd (opp)  bal= +3*
LOHO   -1 on 1st (same) ; -1 on 2nd (opp) +1 on 3rd (same)  bal= +2 (behind so incr to 2)  
HOHE  +2 on 1st (opp)  bal= +4*  (ahead so reduce to 1)
HOLO  +1 on 1st (same) bal= +5*
HELE   -1 on 1st (opp) ; -1 on 2nd (same); -1 on 3rd (opp) ; -1 on 4th (same)  bal= +1 (behind so incr to 2)
LOHE   +2 on 1st (opp) bal= +3 (improved - so remain at 2)
HEHE   -2 on 1st (same) ; +2 on 2nd (opp)  bal= +3 (remain at 2)
HELE   +2 on 1st (same) bal= +5* (level - so reduce to 1)

+5 (highest bet=2)

* denotes highest bank

AMK, like your own idea (and pattern4) this method *might* benefit with a wait for 12 spins (3 lines) first before betting opposite the first line and play on from that point...
For example:

LEHE
HOHO
HELO  
LEHO  -1 on 1st (opp); +1 on 2nd (same)     bal= +0* (remain at 1)
HOHO  -1 on 1st (opp) ; +1 on 2nd (same)   bal= +0* (remain at 1)
LOHO   +1 on 1st (same)  bal= +1*  
HOHE  +1 on 1st (opp)     bal= +2*
HOLO  +1 on 1st (same)   bal= +3*
HELE    +1 on 1st (opp)    bal= +4*
LOHE   -1 on 1st (same); -1 on 2nd (opp); +1 on 3rd (same)  bal= +3 (incr to 2)
HEHE   -2 on 1st (opp) ; -2 on 2nd (same); +2 on 3rd (opp)  bal= +1 (incr to 3)
HELE   +3 on 1st (same) bal= +4 (remain at 3 or reduce to 2)

+4 (highest bet=3)

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

mimoto

Glad to see i have got you thinking about, same, opposite, same, opposite.

atlantis

Quote from: mimoto on Jun 07, 02:12 PM 2011
Glad to see I have got you thinking about, same, opposite, same, opposite.

Hi mimoto,

Yes (I saw your usage of that)
It could also be advantageous at times when lines REPEAT

HOHO
HOHO

If betting only OPPOSITE you get 4 losers in row but if using OPP/SAME the win is gained on 2nd step. If using SAME/OPP the win is achieved on the 1st step.

:)

Atlantis.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Johnlegend

Quote from: atlantis on Jun 07, 02:19 PM 2011
Hi mimoto,

Yes (I saw your usage of that)
It could also be advantageous at times when lines REPEAT

HOHO
HOHO

If betting only OPPOSITE you get 4 losers in row but if using OPP/SAME the win is gained on 2nd step. If using SAME/OPP the win is achieved on the 1st step.

:)

Atlantis.
Good to see you on here Atlantis its been a while...

soggett

I like the system  :thumbsup:

Did you try maybe betting FOR the pattern instead?

In that way we can have a longer and safer progression;
instead 1/1 , 3/3 , 9/9 , 27/27 which is 80 units we can have something like:
1,1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,31 which is 92 units but 10 steps, what do you think?
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

atlantis

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 07, 06:38 PM 2011
Good to see you on here Atlantis its been a while...

Hi JohnLegend,

Did u know your very first original matrix vertical 7 system made it on to another site?
link:://bookiesroulette.co.uk/complex-roulette-systems/vertical-matrix/

Cheers,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

amk

Hello everyone,

This method has now officially been named "CODE 4" and is listed under full systems.

Hope to see you all there!

atlantis

Playing OPPOSITE with marty  - but only after a virtual loser in col 1 - which means max of 3 bets (7u: 1-2-4) on a line...

LEHE
HOHO no bet
HELO  +1 in col2 (1st bet)
LEHO  no bet
HOHO no bet
LOHO  no bet
HOHE  no bet
HOLO  +1 in col3 (2nd bet)
HELE   +1 in col2 (1st bet)
LOHE   no bet
HEHE   no bet
HELE   +1 in col3 (2nd bet)

+4

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

This may be a better way of playing the EC vertical matrix 4...

Some nice results playing this. Playing at BVNoZero rng demo mode.

Record lines of 4 results in order: H/L, O/E, H/L, O/E

Bet opposite EC on vertical line above. Stop at a winner.

Start prog = 1-1-2-2

Reduce to start progression if LEVEL or AHEAD; otherwise adjust progression line accordingly.

HOHO (START AT 1-1-2-2)
LOHO  +1
LEHO  +1
HELO  +2
LELO   +3
LEHE   +3
HOHE  +4
HEHO  +4
HELE   +4
LELE   +5
HOLE   +6
HELE   +6
HEHE   +6
HELE   +6
HELO   +4 (UP TO 2-3-3-4)
LEHO   +6  (DOWN TO 1-1-2-2)
LELO    +6
HOLE    +7
HELO   +7
LOLE   +8
HOLE   +9
LOHE  +10
LOHE   +4  (UP TO 3-3-4-4)
HEHO   +7
LEHO   +10 (DOWN TO 1-1-2-2)
HOHE   +11
HOLO   +11
HEHE   +11
LELE    +12
HOLO   +13
HOHE   +13
HOHO   +13
LOLO    +14
LOHE    +14
LOLO     +14
LOLE     +12 (UP TO 2-3-3-4)
LELE     +13 (DOWN TO TO 2-2-3-3)
HOHE    +14 (DOWN TO 1-1-2-2)
HELE     +14
HELO     +12 (UP TO 2-3-3-4)
HOHE     +13 (DOWN TO 2-2-3-3)
LOLO     +15 (DOWN TO 1-1-2-2)
LOLE      +13 (UP TO 2-3-3-4)
LELO      +14 (DOWN TO 2-2-3-3)
HOLE      +16 (DOWN TO 1-1-2-2)
HEHO      +16
LELO      +17
HEHE      +18
HELE      +18
LELO       +19
LOHO      +19
LOHE      +17 (UP TO 2-3-3-4)
LOLO       +15 (UP TO 3-4-4-5)
HEHE      +18 (DOWN TO 3-3-4-4)
LEHO      +21 (DOWN TO 1-1-2-2)

54 games in 220 spins.
PROFIT +21pts.
Highest bet = 3u

So if you like the CODE 4 and MATRIX-type bets - this could be for you! Try it.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

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