• Welcome to #1 Roulette Forum & Message Board | www.RouletteForum.cc.

News:

The only way to beat roulette is by increasing accuracy of predictions (changing the odds). This is possible on many real wheels.

Main Menu
Popular pages:

Roulette System

The Roulette Systems That Really Work

Roulette Computers

Hidden Electronics That Predict Spins

Roulette Strategy

Why Roulette Betting Strategies Lose

Roulette System

The Honest Live Online Roulette Casinos

The Road to Riches has 6 steps

Started by GLC, Aug 11, 03:29 PM 2012

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

GLC

Step 1.  Bet 1 unit on any dozen or column.  If you lose, move 1 step to the right in progression line and repeat step 1.  If you win you will have won 2 units.  Go to Step 2.

Step 2.  Bet 2 units on an even chance.  If you lose stay at same level in progression line and repeat Step 1.  If you win you will have 4 units.  Go to Step 3.

Step 3.  Bet 4 units on an even chance.  If you lose stay at same level in progression line and repeat Step 1.  If you win you will have 8 units.  Go to Step 4.

Step 4.  Bet 4-4 units on 2 dozens.  If you lose stay at same level in progression line and repeat Step 1.  If you win you will have 12 units.  Go to Step 5.

Step 5.  Bet 6-6 units on 2 dozens.  If you lose stay at same level in progression line and repeat Step 1.  If you win you will have 18 units.  Go to Step 6.

Step 6.  Bet 9-9 units on 2 dozens.  If you lose stay at same level in progression line and repeat Step 1.  If you win you will have 27 units, go to Step 1.

Progression Line:
1 = 27 times
2 = 14 times
3 = 9 times
4 = 7 times
5 = 5 times
6 = 5 times
7 = 4 times
8 = 3 times
9 = 3 times
10 = 3 times
11 = 3 times
12 = 2 times
13 = 1 time

If you lose the entire progression line you will have not only lost -354 units, but you will also be the most unlucky person on the planet.

You don't have to bet all 6 bets.  Any time you reach a new high profit, re-set.

Remember, every time you win a dozen bet and lose before reaching the 3rd win on the double dozen bets, you have broken even for that attack and don't move on the progression line.  So, you have 86 losses represented by the progression line.

You decide where to bet on each location.

If you want a tad bit more risk vs reward, you can bet all 3 chips from the dozen bet on the 1st even chance bet and you will win 38 units if you win all 6 bets but if you win the dozen bet and lose before you win all 6 bets you must move 1 step to the right on the progression line.  No free repeats because you bet your original bet on the rest of the bets for more compounding.

This is a good way to spend a couple of hours at the roulette table.

With a little luck you can win a few chips also.


GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

For those who want to take a more conservative approach bet the following way.

1 unit on a dozen. 
If you win 3 units on an even chance.
If you win 6 units on an even chance.
If you win 6-6 on a double dozen.
If you win 9-9 on a double dozen.
If you win 13-13 on a double dozen.

No progression line.  Flat bet only.  You have 39 opportunities to win before you end in the hole after winning all 6 of the bets.

Also, you don't have to wait until you reach a new profit to reset.  If you get to within 1, 2 or 3 of even and you've lost quite few attempts, take the almost back to even and keep going.  I've been down 20 or so units and gotten back to near even and won on 6-6 and not go to 9-9, but end there. 

Better safe then sorry.  Of course it does sting a little if you would have won the next 2 double dozen bets.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

TwoCatSam

GLC

So you write a progression:

1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 (I think that's 27).

Is that it?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

GLC

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Aug 11, 04:02 PM 2012
GLC

So you write a progression:

1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 (I think that's 27).

Is that it?

Sam

Sam, If you're going to play flat bet, I would play 78 1's as my line.

I would play the aggressive way as follows.

Bet 1 unit on a dozen.  If I win I have 3 units.
Bet the 3 units on an even chance.  If I win I have 6 units.
Bet 6 units on an even chance.  If I win I have 12 units.
Bet 6-6 on dbl doz.  18 units.
Bet 9-9 on dbl doz.  27 units.
Bet 13-13 on dbl doz.  39 units.

Conservative approach is to play until you reach a new profit and then start over rather than finish all 6 bets in each attack.

Really no need to have a bet line.  Just play until you've won enough or lost enough then quit.

I say 78 units because if you lose the 1st 39, the next 39 are to limit your losses.  I have never lost 78 attempts in a row.  If I lose 39 and then hit on attempt 51, I only have lost 12 units.  I can either keep playing hoping for another win close enough to put me in profit or take the 12 unit loss.

You know that it can lose 78 attacks in a row, but what the heck, that's only $0.78 for conservative testing or $7.80 if you're testing it aggressively.

Stay out of the heat my friend.  It's hard on us well seasoned folks.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Turner

Classic GLC

What ever you are doing here.....Its about playing the next bet with the casinos money

Im just wondering about the move order (sorry , its the Chess in me)

Would it be better to bet the Casinos money on the bets with the less chances?

Even bets first....then Doz, then Double Doz?

Just a thought

GLC

Quote from: turnerfeck on Aug 11, 07:11 PM 2012
Classic GLC

What ever you are doing here.....Its about playing the next bet with the casinos money

I'm just wondering about the move order (sorry , its the Chess in me)

Would it be better to bet the Casinos money on the bets with the less chances?

Even bets first....then Doz, then Double Doz?

Just a thought
Turnerfeck,  My idea was to start with 1 unit on the bet that pays the most on a win which means it's our seed money.  Thus 1 unit on a dozen returns 2 from the casino plus our own.  But, the strike rate isn't so good.  2 losses for every win.  We just keep playing the bet until we win and then we use the seeds to try to grow some more fruit.

Even chances has a little better hit rate, so I think it's worth the risk a second shot at winning on them.  The parlay helps boost our crop.

Double dozen has a 2/3rds strike rate so we can take 3 shots on them since we have a reasonable chance to win 3 times in a row.  Maybe should stick with 2 chances since the payoffs stinks.

Maybe a better bet would be 1 unit on a dozen.   If win then 3 units on even chance.  If win then 3-3 units on double dozen.  If win then 4-4 units on double dozen for a net of 12 units.

We could even back up to a line or even a street but then the odds of making it to the end are so remote that it would be a real grinder.
Or, we could play a street until we win.  Once we win we take our net profits to invest in bets on lines.  If we win on a line we take our net profits to invest on dozens.  If we win on a dozen we use that money to bet on even chances.  Next come double dozens and we could even go to 5 lines and finally to 11 streets.
The details would be difficult to work out, but it could be done.

Seem to be getting a little carried away.  It does point out that the idea can be tweaked any way you would like.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

TwoCatSam

GLC

I'd love to blame the heat for my misunderstand, but it's just my "well-seasoned" brain.

Actually, it's rather pleasant here.  Just walked the hounds two miles and barely broke a sweat.  Only 84!!

I get what you're talking about.  Would be a hoot to play.

Thanks, as always!

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Ralph

This I really like, you had to miss  the first bet to lose, then its winnings or break even. I will try this today, and I feel confident it will not be any bigger loss.

Did it twice before this post, first break even, next plus 27. We got lowest bet 7USD on our land casinos, and then it is not too hard to try a method like this. With units dollar worth, a let it rid is the most safe way to get a winning which counts.

The best way to fail, is not to try!

keel44

This is excellent !

It has everything that I look for:

Easy to play
Logical
Affordable
RNG or Live
No tracking voodoo stuff
Just straight math--"play it out and see what happens" type system


Positive progression bundled within a negative progression----That is where its at :smile:

An easy way to test this is to have a predetermined set of bets----call it ahead of time, and run it through some past results.  I will be using this strategy for sure.

hanshuckebein

Quote from: GLC on Aug 11, 03:29 PM 2012

If you lose the entire progression line you will have not only lost -354 units, but you will also be the most unlucky person on the planet.


hi GLC,

I just wonder, what are the odds of being mr. unlucky here? I don't mean to be negative. it's just that I once tested Kurt von Hallers "unbeatable progression" and it only took 3 test sessions to get busted. if I had played that with real money it would have cost me an arm and a leg.

cheers  :)

hans
"Don't criticize what you don't understand. You never walked in that man's shoes." (Elvis Presley)

Turner

Quote from: GLC on Aug 11, 10:21 PM 2012
Turnerfeck,  My idea was to start with 1 unit on the bet that pays the most on a win which means it's our seed money.  Thus 1 unit on a dozen returns 2 from the casino plus our own.  But, the strike rate isn't so good.  2 losses for every win.  We just keep playing the bet until we win and then we use the seeds to try to grow some more fruit.

Even chances has a little better hit rate, so I think it's worth the risk a second shot at winning on them.  The parlay helps boost our crop.

Double dozen has a 2/3rds strike rate so we can take 3 shots on them since we have a reasonable chance to win 3 times in a row.  Maybe should stick with 2 chances since the payoffs stinks.

Maybe a better bet would be 1 unit on a dozen.   If win then 3 units on even chance.  If win then 3-3 units on double dozen.  If win then 4-4 units on double dozen for a net of 12 units.

We could even back up to a line or even a street but then the odds of making it to the end are so remote that it would be a real grinder.
Or, we could play a street until we win.  Once we win we take our net profits to invest in bets on lines.  If we win on a line we take our net profits to invest on dozens.  If we win on a dozen we use that money to bet on even chances.  Next come double dozens and we could even go to 5 lines and finally to 11 streets.
The details would be difficult to work out, but it could be done.

Seem to be getting a little carried away.  It does point out that the idea can be tweaked any way you would like.
Thanks for the reply....having said what I said, I tried your method using real spins in RX and it won every bet LOL

First impressions are allways important.

Ralph

Quote from: hanshuckebein on Aug 12, 03:21 AM 2012
hi GLC,

I just wonder, what are the odds of being mr. unlucky here? I don't mean to be negative. it's just that I once tested Kurt von Hallers "unbeatable progression" and it only took 3 test sessions to get busted. if I had played that with real money it would have cost me an arm and a leg.

cheers  :)

hans

It is not hard to find the like to fail, just count  1/3 * 1/2 * 1/2 * 2/3 * 2/3 * 2/3 on a NZ wheel.

You will fail  all steps sometimes, but it counts for all betting, and still you will have some winnings, with some luck, win more than lose.

This progression will not go out of hands, You can start a least so many sessions you can effort to lose. You can stay at six on the 2/3 bet, which I do.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

GLC

Hey guys,  this has been staying pretty steady.  If you play a 1 unit flat bet to start with, you're always in control of your losses and winnings.

I've been testing it with the following handy little tweak.  Play 2 different progressions.

I start by betting 2 dozens 1 unit each.  If I lose, I just play 2 dozens again for 1 unit each.  When I win on one of the dozens, the next spin I play the 2 units from the dozen that won on Red or Black and I play 1 unit on the dozen that lost.  If I win on both of these bets I win 4 units, 2 from the dozen be and 2 from the R/B bet.  Most of the time this puts me even or in profit so I start over with 1 unit on 2 dozens.

If I get lucky, I will hit the 1 dozen bet.  I then bet 2 units on R/ B and 1 unit on the dozen that didn't.  If I hit both I bet 4 units on the R/ B that just won the 2 unit bet and since I've won on the 2nd dozen I have a 2 unit bet to make on an even chance here also.  I put the 2 units just won by the dozen win on Even or Odd.  Otherwise I'd have to bet 6 units on the R/B which puts all my eggs in 1 basket.  By betting 4 units on R/B and 2 units on O/E, I improve my chances for a win on at least 1 of them and maybe I will hit on both of them.

I'm not saying spreading the bets on 2 different even chance bets is better.  I'm not sure.  Advice here is welcome.


I haven't thought far enough ahead to decide if we should play the 3rd dozen.  It may get too complicated.  Also, when we get to the double dozen bets on 2 strings, we will have to be looking to bet differentially because with 2 winning strings on even chances, we could have to bet all 3 dozens.  It will probably depend on your bet selection process.

I haven't had to worry about the double dozen bets yet because I've been lucky enough to have always recovered to a new profit before that point.

It could be that there's no need to go beyond the even chance bets.


If this isn't getting too close to Mars, some opinions would be appreciated.


GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

Just wanted to inform you that if you read the above post to quickly, I went back in and modified it so you might want to read it again.

Thanks

Addendum:  I just played a session from h&!!.  I found out that playing all 3 dozens isn't a good idea.  I also found out that staying with the single dozen bet and the even chances keeps things under control better than going on to the double dozen bets.  Also, I think starting out playing 2 on the R/B is good and if you have a severe losing streak, you can go to betting 3 on the R/B for quicker recovery.  It may also cause you to lose more quickly, but is worth the risk.  I found myself not always betting 6 units on the 2nd parlay on even chances.  I definitely like splitting the bets on R/B and O/E instead of piling it all on R/B.

I got down -63 units before pulling out to +10.  When it starts hitting it can recover pretty quickly.  That also means that if it starts off hitting good it can win quickly as well.

All I can say is to be sure and test any tweaks before playing for money so you know what to expect.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

TwoCatSam

Well, George, I thought I understood it but I don't.  What does

1 = 27

mean?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

-