My findings about Bet Voyager

[TwoCatSam]

Hello

First, I noticed you can no longer change the SHA thingy from 10 to 60.  Mine just won't let me do it and I've tried over and over again.

After many trials and after talking to several people, I'm leaning toward the idea that BV does send a stream(s) to beat what you're doing.  Here is why.

When I run the robot two times in a row, it seemingly always  wins the first and loses the second trot.  If I do nothing in between the loser and the next try, I get another loser.  I've lost about a hundred Euro doing this 10 Euro at a time.

However, if I run the robot and it wins and then I manually bet the Boffin's or MOP's "Surround" or one of my systems to recover the 10 E--the next time I log on with the robot, it wins.  What I win manually with and what the robot does are beastly close to the same system so there is no reason one would lose and one would crash.

So my conclusion is I need to be constantly switching systems between about four and they can't catch me.

I'm sure the reason they quit the 60 spins "etched it stone" is this.  You start betting a system, then flip it.  Since they were sending numbers to make you lose, they are now sending numbers that would make you win.  Just go from a dime to a dollar and clean house.  For fifty spins, you have them by the ying-yang!

Or not......

Sam

[2IZI4U]

"First, I noticed you can no longer change the SHA thingy from 10 to 60.  Mine just won't let me do it and I've tried over and over again."


works for me 

[TwoCatSam]

Now that made me mad!

[Ralph]

If it is done as in the help page, and before it do not works by European Roulette.
I never use to change it, but I saw Sams post, and try. I could not!

[superman]

Well just tried it on both play mode and real mode, both work fine, if they didn't want you to do it they would probably remove it, see attached screenshot of real money mode

BVNZ

[F_LAT_INO]

Hello

First, I noticed you can no longer change the SHA thingy from 10 to 60.  Mine just won't let me do it and I've tried over and over again.

After many trials and after talking to several people, I'm leaning toward the idea that BV does send a stream(s) to beat what you're doing.  Here is why.

When I run the robot two times in a row, it seemingly always  wins the first and loses the second trot.  If I do nothing in between the loser and the next try, I get another loser.  I've lost about a hundred Euro doing this 10 Euro at a time.

However, if I run the robot and it wins and then I manually bet the Boffin's or MOP's "Surround" or one of my systems to recover the 10 E--the next time I log on with the robot, it wins.  What I win manually with and what the robot does are beastly close to the same system so there is no reason one would lose and one would crash.

So my conclusion is I need to be constantly switching systems between about four and they can't catch me.

I'm sure the reason they quit the 60 spins "etched it stone" is this.  You start betting a system, then flip it.  Since they were sending numbers to make you lose, they are now sending numbers that would make you win.  Just go from a dime to a dollar and clean house.  For fifty spins, you have them by the ying-yang!

Or not......

Sam

Sam just read this;

--I won pretty at betvoyager fun mode,but I just wanted to warm you;
I don't think bots work;I asked my uncle who is a programmer at large
company in Israel & he said that the hash program they use is a 1 way
function-its secure but it also makes it impossible to verify if the numbers
are picked before you play.The trick is in the server code they provide after
you click END series button.The hash line they show above the table will be
seen after you click END to see the numbers generated, & end the series/initate
a new one,but all they have to do is manipulate the server code so that they
appear the same.

   
• there you are Sam.-----by the way--I got it in my mail the other day.

[superman]

I don't think bots work

LOL, they do

the hash program they use is a 1 way
function-its scoure but it also makes it impossible to verify if the numbers
are picked before you play

Rubbish, you can test it easily byt asking for 10 numbers, spin 9 then hit End and see if they match

but all they have to do is manipulate the server code so that they
appear the same

More rubbish, they can't change something that's all ready created, the server codes is added to the numbers BEFORE the hash is generated.

Flat, we know you hate RNG like many of us hate the real wheel, don't beleive everything you read, it usually sore losers looking for reasons or someone to blame for their poor performance.

MAYBE, just maybe with each new set of numbers they 'may' deliver what they 'hope' is going to kill you off but I can't see that happening unless you just play one ec all day long.

[F_LAT_INO]

FLATS--doesn't understand the word I got in my mail,--but can pressume what he meant.


---I KNEW YOU GET PAID FROM THIS MAFIA-----and also pressumed you will be first to defend em.

[TwoCatSam]

Somebody help me........link:://youtu.be/rkKJyxRO-Rg

[Twisteruk]

Somebody help me........link:://youtu.be/rkKJyxRO-Rg

Sam, the number 0-35 are to break up the number. I dont really use it but it would work like this
You select 11. You spin 11 and the number spat out will be 22

As for the 60 default and then click New, do that BEFORE you spin ure first number

HTH

[Ralph]

I got it working now, it was probably that its sometimes difficult to do just on click on my computer, its worn of all klicking weil plaing.

[2IZI4U]

Sam just read this;

--I won pretty at betvoyager fun mode,but I just wanted to warm you;
I don't think bots work;I asked my uncle who is a programmer at large
company in Israel & he said that the hash program they use is a 1 way
function-its secure but it also makes it impossible to verify if the numbers
are picked before you play.The trick is in the server code they provide after
you click END series button.The hash line they show above the table will be
seen after you click END to see the numbers generated, & end the series/initate
a new one,but all they have to do is manipulate the server code so that they
appear the same.

   
• there you are Sam.-----by the way--I got it in my mail the other day.

If you and your uncle knew better about sha256 hash encoding, you wouldn't say so 


Please believe me, this hash is impossible to hack/fake for the moment and for the years to come...

[Twisteruk]

If you and your uncle knew better about sha256 hash encoding, you wouldn't say so 


Please believe me, this hash is impossible to hack/fake for the moment and for the years to come...

This is true but even Mr ore said one time they can still cheat you

His words were to this effect,

"there is no reason for them to see what you are doin then send you a bunch of numbers, with the sha hash intact, and beat you that way. The numbers would check out because they were predetrmind"

Ure milage may vary.

[superman]

---I KNEW YOU GET PAID FROM THIS MAFIA-----and also pressumed you will be first to defend em

If you and your uncle knew better about sha256 hash encoding, you wouldn't say so 

Uh oh, another BV employee    that's 2 of us, I suppose you think Bayes is also employed by them?

It's funny the people that play at RNG casinos don't moan about real wheels, besides the speed they play, grass grows quicker, but the people that play at real wheels are always moaning about RNG's, for the umpteenth time, WE KNOW

[TwoCatSam]

Thank you, Twister, for that explanation.  I'll try it.

Sam