why is everyone still play roulette?

[Amazin]

@GLC, sorry dude for not reply to your PM, especially all the effort you have put in. After I lost money at roulette I was annoyed with myself but I have been visiting this forum but haven't been playing.

Good to see Flatino is back and everything but we discussed everything before and no system can survive in roulette. so why are we still playing and wasting our time?

I made thread about this while back:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9158.0

so who's actually winning?

[Turner]

Amazin
There is no system to beat roulette. You have to decide what you want out of roulette.
personally? i need something to study...and read up on. Practically, I go to the casino once a week with my wife. The worse i did in a week in 12 month is -£40,  the best £90 up. Me and Grosvenor casino are about even. Aim for a free night out. Thats a buzz.....a free night out.
The wife draw down is -£20, and a £190 up. she is still up on the year.
She bets on 0,26,32 and birthdays. Im trying every system under the sun.

there is your answer

[lorna dune]

Come on amazin, roulette is life when you think about it, you love her but inevitaably she will break your heart , but you still come back   maybe just me but there is alot more goin on than just a ball spinning and jumping around falling in pocket, its not about systems it's the game the chase man. So many great minds on this forum so many "fun" systems Roulette has never been more interesting. ld

[Master_of_pockets]

Amazin
There is no system to beat roulette. You have to decide what you want out of roulette.
personally? i need something to study...

there is your answer

This is my answer too

[Proofreaders2000]

"so why are we still playing and wasting our time?"-Amazin

There is money in Roulette.  Mr. J wins in the thousands.

[Robeenhuut]

@GLC, sorry dude for not reply to your PM, especially all the effort you have put in. After I lost money at roulette I was annoyed with myself but I have been visiting this forum but haven't been playing.

Good to see F_LAT_INO is back and everything but we discussed everything before and no system can survive in roulette. so why are we still playing and wasting our time?

I made thread about this while back:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9158.0

so who's actually winning?

Your question is pointless because no success story here can be verified. If you have an internet access and can find this website you can post anything here. Most people are here because they keep looking for a method that will make  money or they are just new to the game. Some just gave up and vent their frustration. Some claim to be successful but its irrelevant because we have not seen any long term proof here. For any person that posts anything that works for him we have always somebody that claims otherwise. Have we had anything  that was posted here that was agreed upon to be a sure winner?  I do believe that there are some people that make money from roulette (not by selling books or systems though) but the bad news is that you might not be able ever benefit from this fact.

[Drazen]

Good to see F_LAT_INO is back and everything but we discussed everything before and no system can survive in roulette. so why are we still playing and wasting our time?

I made thread about this while back:

so who's actually winning?

Well when you already mentioned mr. Flatino, he is winning. And winning with those systems that cant survive in roulette you know? 

There are people who are succesfull. One way or another. Everyone has to find his own way i say.

Cheers

Drazen

[Turner]

Having read robeen and Drazen......

My father was a compulsive gambler. You heard the wins and never the losses. Dont reflect on whos winning and whos losing. In my view, if someone loses, then goes off to find out why and regroup with renewed vigor, they are the winner.
Some people exagurate their wins and dumb down their losses.
Like Robeen said....no success story here can be verified

Flat_ino may come here and report that he made a mint on his system then you try it and it flops.
All our ideas are like racecars on a track. The track is random numbers.

Turner

[ego]

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Well if you have time to waste then you can read some valid opinions about the subject below.

Note:
First of all i don't use roulette systems.

Now i believe that some roulette system players can end up in the positive area each month.
They are underdogs who fight against the negative expectation and it exist various way to manage a good overall playing model for that.
It exist many tools to make some to use skills to hovering around above the sea line.
There is bankroll management and money management that should be the core into any valid playing model.
Then know how to accept loses and realize that all systems lose in the long run - but clever gamblers don't as they know the difference between weak and strong spots during play.

Conclusion is that i believe that some succeed.
It is does who know that you don't us all your money and go all in to win a small %.
As they know nothing is due to happen and it will happen sooner or later if you use that kind of strategy.
I believe that does who succeed have various methods and play short rapid games with strict rules.
Know when to hold them or fold them regarding each tactic.

Now do i think some one can become full time player and quit work.
Yes i do and there is no glamour at all.

[Ralph]

Play roulette is fun. All games is risky, and a very few has fair odds. Roulette is not a skill game at all.
Its neeeds not much brain to win, rather luck.

If you win much with a method (which is possible) it just happen to work during the play.
You can adjust for winning some easy, but to an expense of a bigger loss later.

Many other things in life is similar, we can success at least for a while, even if the odds are real poor.

The stock market has similar properties, it goes up and the system bust at the end. Still some are winners, normally they run out in time.

To win all the time is a dream, which very unlikely will come true.

If the casino hold is 25%, then 75% is exchanged between players, other players pay if we win, never the bank.  It holds for normal banks as well.

[Drazen]

Play roulette is fun.  Roulette is not a skill game at all.
Its neeeds not much brain to win, rather luck.

For those that first quoted sentence is true, then second and third can't be false.

But if first is false for some, then also 2nd and 3rd are false.

In my case all sentences above are very wrong. What i know depends about nothing but the skill... Luck in my case/ life concernig roulette comes in another formes

Cheers

Drazen

[Master_of_pockets]

Your question is pointless because no success story here can be verified. If you have an internet access and can find this website you can post anything here. Most people are here because they keep looking for a method that will make  money or they are just new to the game. Some just gave up and vent their frustration. Some claim to be successful but its irrelevant because we have not seen any long term proof here. For any person that posts anything that works for him we have always somebody that claims otherwise. Have we had anything  that was posted here that was agreed upon to be a sure winner?  I do believe that there are some people that make money from roulette (not by selling books or systems though) but the bad news is that you might not be able ever benefit from this fact.

I agree with Robeenhuut.
And I also want to highlight the thing that turnerfeck said about people-members that tell-announce   and brag about the winnings but don't tell anything about the losses.
  That s why we always see them trying to find a new system.

If you have a system that is a real winner(win more than it s losing) then you don't need a 2nd system....Because IF a winning system would exist it would be a miracle, so asking-trying to find a 2nd one would be a silly thing to do.

The reason why some people like having more than one systems is because none of those systems is a real winner and they think that by playing both of them it will give them an edge.
This is wrong. If you have 2 or more systems that losing and play them together then the loss will be double.

In fact when you have a system that isn t a real winner , everytime you plave 1 chip on every spin you are losing on average:
- 2,7 chips per 100 spins...
-27 chips in 1000 betting spins,
-270 chips on 10.000 betting spins
-2.700 chips on 100.000 betting spins
Etc.

So by placing 2 chips on every spin the loss will be double:
-5,4 per 100 spins
-54 per 1000 spins
-540 per 10.000 spins
-5.400 per 100.000 spins

Every system known or unknown that I have tested in RX showed the above results...and it does that be LAW....the law of the house edge -2,7.

Some people are strong believers of the Hit and Run because they think that by this way the house edge won t have any power on them.
If fact what they can t realise is that the house edge is still there because in every spin we have -2,7% chances of winning no matter what system-method-bet we play(with exception the VB and Bias play).
There will be sessions with Hit and Run that will not be able to make a positive balance ,not even +1 chip for allowing to leave the casino and in those visits the BR of the system will be lost.
So those sessions are making the hit and run act the same like betting consistently without running after hitting.

So until a winning system will be discovered all systems will be under the -2,7.

[Drazen]

Having read robeen and Drazen......

My father was a compulsive gambler. You heard the wins and never the losses. don't reflect on whos winning and whos losing. In my view, if someone loses, then goes off to find out why and regroup with renewed vigor, they are the winner.
Some people exagurate their wins and dumb down their losses.
Like Robeen said....no success story here can be verified

Flat_ino may come here and report that he made a mint on his system then you try it and it flops.
All our ideas are like racecars on a track. The track is random numbers.

Turner

Dear Turner first of all some of us here can't be in same basket as compulsive gamblers like your father was. So we can't talk about wins/losses that way.

Further, the ones who are trying F_LAT_INO - s or anyone elses system just because he said he is winning, withouth testing and checking those claims, are silly and naive gamblers.

You should always check or in some cases confirm your edge before put money on the table.

That race track is random for 99% of you, but there are few of us for who it isnt excatly so.

But how hard and long is to get to the point where roulette stopps being random is anotery story.

And most important thing is actualy knowing some things and claiming this and that works, and i know this and that, but taking money with it in reality when faced with casinos eyes is what makes heroes here...


Cheers

Drazen

[Master_of_pockets]

"""Further, the ones who are trying F_LAT_INO - s or anyone elses system just because he said he is winning, withouth testing and checking those claims, are silly and naive gamblers.

You should always check or in some cases confirm your edge before put money on the table."""


I agree 100% with drazen_cro about this!

Drazen you said :
That race track is random for 99% of you, but there are few of us for who it isnt excatly so.
But how hard and long is to get to the point where roulette stopps being random is anotery story.



Are you refaring To Marigny and in general systems with correction of events deviations? 

[Robeenhuut]

Ok lets elaborate on some alleged winning strategies like opportunistic betting meaning waiting for just one bet opportunity and placing just one large bet - win or lose. There was one guy called Steve Morgan that used to play reversed double dozen system - he bet against repeating of a pattern of dozens. Then he placed one large bet and claimed that he won 19 out of 20 times. Its like for example waiting for 1 dozen to hit 8 times in a row and bet for it not to repeat again. I only saw it happen 2 times and i would won 2 times  You know that it could happen 12 or 13 times..... Would you believe his claim?  But its possible.
I agree with MOP and my intentions are not to doubt any success stories including FLAT's who was singled out at the beginning of this thread.  Its better to post any method than not to post at all. I learned a lot more here why something does not work here than why something works and i dont consider this a waste of time. We wont get here a method that could be played on autopilot but we have an opportunity to take advantage of some ideas here and morph it into something that could increase our chances.