My Best Guess at a Test of the L v F System

[TwoCatSam]

Well, balls!

Seems this idea is deader than the proverbial doornail! 

Nevertheless, the spins are NOT up for table 2 at Spielbank for the 25th of November at this typing so that will be my first day.

I'll test this until I learn something, decide no one cares or just get sick of doing it.  I'll not let all the work done just fall by the wayside with no further work to test the theory.

FlAtMaN--------if you're reading this, at least log in and tell us what the problem is.  You wanted a proper tracker--you got one.  I'll bet you could get testers if you'd just put the sheets up again.  I ran one sheet and it was perfect.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

The rules as I understand them from the study of sheet LvF-16....................

Spins are listed in groups of nine.  If you win five or more of those nine, you go down one unit (unless you are already at 1).  If you lose five or more of those spins, you go up a unit for the next nine spins.  You do not recalculate when you move ahead, but stay at the same level for nine spins regardless.  My assumed bet will be $1 for easy calculation.  Each spin will be a bet of $9.  If I lose, I lose $9; if I win, I win $9.  I could not see that FlAtMaN set a loss limit, but his win seems to be 108 units, be they Euros or whatever.  Unless I am thinking wrong, he must win a net of 12 more wins than losses to achieve this goal.  12x9=108.

My first sheet may be confusing due to my poor organization and math skills.  I may re-do it and re-post it.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Could someone help me?

Is there a way to cut-and-paste the numbers from Spielbank directly into the Excel program?  Stef?

I have tried it and I can't figure it out.

November 25 stats are not up yet.

Sam

[trebor]

Sam,


I went off the boil on this one because of all the ill feeling but I'm still keen to see if it lives up to Flats claims.


A tracker would help a lot.


Can't help with the Excell request. Completely beyond my meagre knowledge.


Trebor

[TwoCatSam]

We have a tracker!  Just don't want to have to hand-input the numbers.

Sam

[FlAtMaN]

We have a tracker!  Just don't want to have to hand-input the numbers.

Sam

That tracker has nothind to do with rules of the bet....should be made as instructed.and why table 2/never enough req.spins there/
only 3,4,and 7 with more then 300 spins.

btw--click;archive,--click;table with more then 300 spins,--click;safe as,name it ex.LvF---Open
microsoft office excel---click;data--click;from the text,-click;next,next,finish,ok-----and you get the numbers----and when you delete window with numbers,it will come back with question;
do you wish to save it,which you do from download to documents....then you can paste it on deskopt.

[TwoCatSam]

FlAtMaN

Very well, I shall use table 3.

"That tracker has nothing to do with the rules of the bet..."  Does anyone understand how a tracker would NOT have EVERYTHING to do with the rules of a bet??  If not, what the hell is it for??

I am not going to argue the point of the "rules" any longer.  If someone else wishes to, power to them.  I am going to use the tracker as Stef designed it.  If that's wrong--so be it.

I have done everything humanly possible to clarify the rules, even to the point of making a video which soggett affirmed was correct.  Stef wrote the tracker and the tracker picks exactly the same winners and losers as does LvF-16.  As far as I'm concerned, the tracker is correct.

Would anyone agree/disagree?  I will attach Stef's tracker in case you missed it.

Sam

[trebor]

Oh dear.


My version of excel is too old to run this tracker apparently.


Trebor

[SamNL]

The only thing that's not right in the tracker is the progression that is used. In the tracker it goes up 1 unit everytime you lose 1 spin. While the progression has to be as followed: If after 9 spins in plus go down 1 unit if not go up 1 unit. Just as Sam said earlier in this thread.

[TwoCatSam]

SamNL

Thank you for that, and you are right.  I plan to post the Excel sheet with the embedded progression and then figure my own using--hell, who knows if it's right??--FlAtMaN's progression. 

This system is rapidly wearing on my nerves to the point I am within inches of abandoning it and moving on.

trebor

Perhaps Stef could modify the sheet where it would run on the old versions.  I'm running Excel2000.  Or is it 2010??  Anyway, it's the latest version.  And the tracker is correct and works fine.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

RULES MODIFICATION............AND IT'S THE ONLY AND LAST FRIGGIN' ONE!!!


FlAtMaN says to use table three.  In bending over freakin' backward to do every freakin' thing he says to do.............

I'll use table 3. 

HOW-freakin'-EVER.........

If table three has less than 300 spins, I will go to table 4.  If table 4 has less than 300, I'll go to 5; then 6; then 7.


Sam

[FlAtMaN]

RULES MODIFICATION............AND IT'S THE ONLY AND LAST FRIGGIN' ONE!!!


FlAtMaN says to use table three.  In bending over freakin' backward to do every freakin' thing he says to do.............

I'll use table 3. 

HOW-freakin'-EVER.........

If table three has less than 300 spins, I will go to table 4.  If table 4 has less than 300, I'll go to 5; then 6; then 7.


Sam

If you use table 2 you will have about 4/5 sessions a month...while table 3 23-30 sessions a month.

1+1- in cycle of 9 spins........at the end of any cycle you 72,or more up...session ends.

--SESSION MUST FINISH AT THE END OF 9 CYCLES

And thats how I every day find tables...some day 3,4,7 over 300 spins,some day 0nly 1 table,
so far in 2 months only 2 days without required condition.

[amk]

Flatman,


I missed the 300 spins per table info, can't find it. How does this work?


"And that's how I every day find tables...some day 3,4,7 over 300 spins,some day 0nly 1 table,so far in 2 months only 2 days without required condition."

[TwoCatSam]

All

I have been doing some testing on numbers I won't publish.  Spielbank numbers.

This thing tanks horribly when you use the built-in progression.  You can hit a 300 loss withing thirty or forty spins.

Hope the 9 sequence works better.

In my first test, I will video the tracker so that you may see exactly how I'm doing it.

Numbers for 11-25 are still not published.

Sam

[tonynewlife]

All

I have been doing some testing on numbers I won't publish.  Spielbank numbers.

This thing tanks horribly when you use the built-in progression.  You can hit a 300 loss withing thirty or forty spins.

Hope the 9 sequence works better.

In my first test, I will video the tracker so that you may see exactly how I'm doing it.

Numbers for 11-25 are still not published.

Sam

Sam,

You said the system tanks horribly but are you finishing the 300 and something spins required by Flatman? even then it's tanking?