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My Best Guess at a Test of the L v F System

Started by TwoCatSam, Nov 25, 11:48 AM 2012

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TwoCatSam

iggiv

You are right.  I don't care what a man's nationality, religion, sexual preference, or color is or any other thing you can think of.  And neither does the ball.  On the other hand, writing in letters as big as Dallas is, what?, demeaning, offensive....whatever word you want. 

iggiv, if the test was going badly and I reported it, do you think I would have gotten the same post from Speed? 


I don't want to be involved in the Serbian/Croatian war, but I will tell you this:  Speed cannot slam FLAT because he's no longer here so he attacks me.  What that tells me is Speed is terrified the system will work.  He could just as easily slam soggett, trebor and Stef as they are part of this test.  Without them, there would be no test--especially Stef.  But I'm the one posting the results.

And, honestly now, anyone who looks at my progress chart--do they need a graph?  Can't you see it in your mind?  I can!

Speed has paid FLAT the ultimate compliment.  FLAT emailed me.  He knows it.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Stepkevh

Please stop praising me  :-[ :-[  ;D

Sam, if i find a hole somewhere i try to make a chart in excel that follows your winnings / losses.

Its something else then making a tracker or coding a bot ;D
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

trebor

Sam,

It's kind of you to credit me with helping with the test but to set the record straight I'm not at the moment.

One thing is I've little time to spare at the moment, also until I update my excel I can't use the tracker which would be a right pain.

Being a skinflint I'm trying to get it for free, (Bill Gates has had enough of my money) but no luck so far.

Maybe I'll splash out, your results certainly encourage me to.

Trebor

Still

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 07, 12:06 PM 2012

Tell me what more you want---or anyone else who knows what he means---and I will happily post the information.

Sam

Sam, if you can link together all the posts where you have attached unique Excel sheets which meet the standards of correctness, i will put them all together and make a graph.  I might even come up with an easy way for you to do it yourself.   


Stepkevh

Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Paja


My 5 cents:

Mr. Flat wants to give us SOMETHING without giving us THE THING. It's like lending us an old Volkswagen beetle which, with some tweaking, could get us there. Flat personally probably drives Ferrari (who in the right mind would give you keys?).

This bet is attempt to bruteforce no win, no lose bet using experience and good money management.

At first glance this bet should be same as betting penultimate EC:
RR - last color repeated repeated so we bet on last - R
BR - we bet on furtherest (chop) - B

Premise is - Last vs. furtherest concept is more balanced if we use it
on more precise bets:
L vs. F on EC (R/B, E/O, H/L) - 1 vs. 1
L vs. F on lines - 3 vs. 3
L vs F on crossings 4 or 5 vs. 4 or 5
L vs F on streets 6 vs. 6
L vs F on splits 9 vs. 9

Could it mean that last 18 vs. furtherest 18 numbers will give us best results?
Also could be worth looking into length of Last vs. length of furtherest runs.
Is FFFFFLLLLFFFLFLFFF different from RBBBRRRRRBRBB (random example only)?

I respect Flat's work and believe man has mastered the game and that we can all learn something useful.

@Sam
Thank you mr. Sam for all tests, keep them coming because you are one good, realistic, unbiased gentleman. 

BTW i'm from Serbia too. Let's not jump into conclusions, generalise or judge people nor their bets before
giving them chance to shine.     
Best thing to do with your winnings is to buy a casino (moldy dump with one used airball table if you are really lucky :P )!

Robeenhuut

There is a tracker made by Stef that generates random spins by pressing F9 button. You can test this to death. If you expect to duplicate the testing results in a real play just go ahead. If you get a string of repeaters you win a session, if you get chops you lose. If you expect to get more repeaters in splits or sectors than on any EC in 300 spins you are mistaken. Just use a common sense. I know that Sam had a pretty good run with that in testing. Flat experimented with a progression now Sam wants to change a stop loss. Its just a guessing game. Few series of chops will kill your BR no matter what you do. There is no use for any charts. 
Matt

iggiv

Zdravo Paja!

nobody generalizes here. All people are people, and bad characters can be from anywhere
:)

Nice to see another guy from your region.

TwoCatSam

Stef-----OK! Sorry!
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trebor-----you helped explain it. 

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I simply like to give credit where credit is due.
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Still-----------thanks but I don't need a graph.  You see, I'm doing this primarily for me.  Thought some others would like to share in the results. 

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Matt---------I know.   It's all going to turn around and when I play for real.  I'll lose me arse.  Thank you for that warning.

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Paja--------No one could pull a post where I have maligned any person for their country of origin.  I am not necessarily judging Speed; I am simply stating a fact.

The only person I don't understand in this post is Matt.  Brother, what would you have us do?  Just stop everything because the devil is hiding behind a tree?  Do I know the run from hell is out there?  I think I coined that phrase.  Sure I do.

And before we continue to crucify Jl, I've been giving a lot--and I mean a lot--of study to his HAR idea.  He may very well be right.  Yes, the thought he could be right flies in the face of math and logic.  But he could be.  Maybe not.

So--------------------

Apologies to all I've offended.  The test will continue.  The results will be what the results will be.

TwoCatSam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

TwoCatSam

I have an idea!!  Let's get back to the test at hand!!

Another 314 units made.
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Blood Angel

Hi.

Is there a post of the definitive rules for this so I could try it out?

TwoCatSam

The only rules that I know of that are understandable are in the video I made which soggett verified was correct.  Stef (no praise here  ;) ) made the tracker according to that video.  I don't know where the video is, but I could look on my U-tube account and link it again if you'd like.

So, as far as I'm concerned the tracker is the rules.

I could never understand FlAtMaN's rules as he wrote them.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

TwoCatSam

Aw, what the heck!!  I'm such a stand-up guy (pat pat) that I linked it without being asked.

Sam's Explanation of L v F II
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Blood Angel


tonynewlife

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 09, 10:13 AM 2012
I have an idea!!  Let's get back to the test at hand!!

Another 314 units made.

Nice sessions Sam!

Tony

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