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Started by atlantis, Sep 16, 06:00 AM 2010

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GLC

A,

I went back through your sequence that caused you to bust and just playing those last 25 spins with 111,222,333.  I was at +30 but but ended with a 4 step losing streak when I ran out of numbers.  A few more spins and I don't doubt I would have been up even more.

This is definitely a safer way to bet.

The interesting thing is that Twisteruk's 11,22,33 progression is more aggressive, but on these numbers he would have only been at +28 just before the 4 step losing streak at the end.

G.

In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

A3on

Just one question

The progression works like this:
111,222,333,444,...
L - forward one step
W - Back 2 steps

Just that right?


What was the max backdrawn using that progression you guys had?


atlantis

Quote from: A3on on Sep 19, 11:28 AM 2010
Just one question

The progression works like this:
111,222,333,444,...
L - forward one step
W - Back 2 steps

Just that right?


What was the max backdrawn using that progression you guys had?



That's right, A3on. Reset when level or new high of course.
My worst session so far was once only when after a 22 pt lead  the bank went from +22 to -116 - that's a d/down of 138... 15 spins later had recovered to +22 and I stopped.
Highest bet 2 x 8 u.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

GLC

Quote from: atlantis on Sep 19, 11:40 AM 2010
That's right, A3on. Reset when level or new high of course.
My worst session so far was once only when after a 22 pt lead  the bank went from +22 to -116 - that's a d/down of 138... 15 spins later had recovered to +22 and I stopped.
Highest bet 2 x 8 u.

A.

A.

I've been thinking, (always a dangerous activity) about the factor that makes the Full Trioplay a fairly good strategy.  It is the fact that when you start getting into the higher bets he applies a safety mechanism that causes you to return to the starting point more quickly, albeit at the cost of a few units.  But, by moving backward at more steps when the bets get larger, it keeps us from escalating out of control and finally crashing.

I understand that every system can have a sequence that results in large drawdowns and a stop loss is very necessary.  It's not unlike the "brake" used by the 6 point divisor to slow things down and keep the bets smaller during losing streaks.

Maybe something like when we get down more than 30 units go to taking 3 or 4 steps backward on a loss.  And, when we get down 100 units maybe go back 5 or 6 steps on a loss.

When we finally get back to betting 1 & 1 we  take any units that we are down as a loss and reset.  This will keep us from losing a big chunk even though it will cause a small loss.

The down side is that if we stayed at our original staking plan, we could recover at an accelerated pace and as we have seen should we have a few wins close together and reach a profit instead of taking a loss.

Just some thoughts.

G
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Twisteruk

Just done a quick 1hrs Spin Test

30 Spins

Profit +34

Lowest Point -6

Biggest bet was 2x3 Units (once)

Used 11 22 33 Progression  :thumbsup:

Its Set In Stone =)

atlantis

G,

Good points you make. Reducing stake at pertinent times and halting until a virtual win are measures that could be incorporated to manage bet levels so that they don't escalate too quickly. It can certainly help to pause or economise while waiting until a "bad" sequence or run ends... It's definately worthy of consideration, G.
At the moment I cannot come up with a better progression, I'm afraid.
I'm breaking off for today - so will have some time later to think about today's developments. Thanks.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

warrior

Quote from: atlantis on Sep 19, 12:39 PM 2010
G,

Good points you make. Reducing stake at pertinent times and halting until a virtual win are measures that could be incorporated to manage bet levels so that they don't escalate too quickly. It can certainly help to pause or economise while waiting until a "bad" sequence or run ends... It's definately worthy of consideration, G.
At the moment I cannot come up with a better progression, I'm afraid.
I'm breaking off for today - so will have some time later to think about today's developments. Thanks.

A.

HI atlantis, every thing in this system stays the same ,i have changed 2 things  I'm finding there are less L's AND MORE W's, 3 session and all winners so far I have added to this system the DS 2 AND DS 5 WITH PROGRESSION level 1
                                                                            1-1
                                                                            level 2
                                                                             2-2
                                                                            level 3
                                                                            4-4
reset when in profit or even give it a try. oh almost forgot this is a 24 number bet. 
   

warrior

1 session 50 spins   starting bank 500 profit 630 4 level in progression 3 times
2 session50 spins bank 500 profit 780  4 level 2 times
3 session 50 spins bank 500 profit 655 level 4 1 time
4 session 50 spins bank 500 profit  680 level 4 2 times
5 session 50 spins bank 500 profit 720 level 4  1 time.
so far no losses but that will soon change it always does .w.

GLC

Quote from: warrior on Sep 20, 11:11 AM 2010
HI atlantis, every thing in this system stays the same ,i have changed 2 things  I'm finding there are less L's AND MORE W's, 3 session and all winners so far I have added to this system the DS 2 AND DS 5 WITH PROGRESSION level 1
                                                                            1-1
                                                                            level 2
                                                                             2-2
                                                                            level 3
                                                                            4-4
reset when in profit or even give it a try. oh almost forgot this is a 24 number bet. 
   

Warrior,

I like the results your getting.

Are you betting the 2 & 5 dbl streets to way I suggested in Reply #26 or a different way?

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

buffalowizard

Warrior,

with your 24 number bet, what DS's are the triggers for betting? For example, DS2 hits, so now which 4 DS's do you bet on? etc
Thanks a lot

BW

warrior

OK SO 6 session 500 bank profit 550 went to 4th level stayed there for 2 spins my bank was even but stayed at level 4 for 2 more spins made the profit that i lost back, finished with 550 . everything stays the same as atlantis system the triggers and rules the only thing im doing is adding those 2 double streets to the original bet and making it 24 number bet, well so far so good i will keep testing this one.W.

Twisteruk

Just did another 1hrs spin test

30 Spins

+28 Profit

using 11 22 33 44 etc etc

Highest Bet 4 (twice)

Biggest DD -14 (twice)

I used the Original Method of 12 Numbers  :thumbsup:
Its Set In Stone =)

atlantis

Quote from: warrior on Sep 20, 05:43 PM 2010
OK SO 6 session 500 bank profit 550 went to 4th level stayed there for 2 spins my bank was even but stayed at level 4 for 2 more spins made the profit that I lost back, finished with 550 . everything stays the same as atlantis system the triggers and rules the only thing I'm doing is adding those 2 double streets to the original bet and making it 24 number bet, well so far so good I will keep testing this one.W.

Hi warrior,
Ok. Seems an acceptable variation to add in those 2 lines and adjust the progression because of "safer" bet and would probably appeal now more to dozen bettors...

I tried a session 20 Sep 2010 at Wiesbaden; Table 8:

50 spins +22
Max drawdown = 30
Highest bet 4 (twice)

Thanks,

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Twisteruk

Ive decided to give this (Original Method) a go with Real Cash  :)


I will play 111 222 333


I will Update as things unfold  :thumbsup:

Its Set In Stone =)

warrior

7 SESSION 500 bank 50 spins 600 profit 4 level 1 time
8   same    same       same      640 profit  4 level 3 times

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