Line Combo Bet

[albertojonas]

 
can anyone resume the system rules so far?

thx

[Kattila]

Hi  Alberto,


The true is ...we are testing some   different * ways*.
Some test with two double streets, others with  4 DS ,
until now I think are 3 different ways, and different  progressions.
All  seems to have positive results.

I post for you my *way* little agressive  one, maybe
Atlantis , Twister and Warrior will post the others ways.


Version for two Double streets


When RO and BE  bet   A= lines 13-18 and 31-36
When RE and  BO bet   B=  lines 1-6  and 19-24
When repeat not bet. Ex : RE RE no bet,  BO BO no bet .



Barracuda progression is +1 at win / +1 at lose.
Session  using this progression (Barracuda hybrid)

- at w  +1, but after 3 :  -2 units per line
- at L1 and L2 bet +1,  but at 3 LLLs  -2 units per line
- after two consecutive L series (L1L2L3...L1L2L3)  reset to 1unit
  (or even better stop and bet again after some wins).


stop-loss at -100 ?



33  BO              bet  B   bet 1u  on each line
26  BE  L1  -2    bet A   bet 2u  on each line
34  RE  w  +6    bet B   bet 3u
3    RO  w +18   bet A   bet 4u
32  RE  w  +34  bet B   bet  2u
34  RE  L1 +30   no bet
35  BO               bet  B  bet 3u
12  RE  L2 +24  bet B  bet 4u  
2    BE  w +40   bet A  bet 5u
33  BO  w +60   bet B  bet 6u
2    BE  w  +84   bet A  bet 4u
24  BE  L1  +76   no bet
32  RE                bet B  bet 5u
0          L2 +66   bet B  bet 6u
32  RE  L3  +54   no bet
22  BE                bet A  bet 4u
24  BE  L1  +46  no bet
29  BO               bet  B  bet 5u
5    RO  w +66   bet  A  bet 6u
26  BE   L1 +54  bet  A  bet 7u
3    RO  L2 +40   bet  A  bet 8u
15  BO  w  +72  bet  B  bet  9u
13  BO  L1  +54  no  bet
8    BE                bet A  bet 10u
20  BE  L2  +34  no bet
29  BO               bet  B  bet  11u
33  BO  L3  +12 no bet  
31  BO               no bet
26  BE               bet  A  bet 9u
7    RO  L1  -6    bet A  bet 10u
32  RE  w   +34  bet B  bet 11u
26  BE  L1  +12  bet A  bet 12u
31  BO  w  +60  bet  B  bet 13u
16  RE  L1  +34  bet  B  bet 14u
23  RO  w  +90  bet  A  bet 15u
21  RO  L1 +60   no bet  
33  BO                bet B  bet 16u
9    RO  L2  +28  bet A  bet 17u
9    RO  L3  -6     no bet
29  BO                bet B  bet 15u
21  RO  w  +66  bet A  bet 16u
17  BO  w +130 bet B  bet 17u
7    RO  w  +198  stop session

Max. down -6
Max. up  +198

[Kattila]

 I am sure the others *ways* with  4Ds are Ok,
because seems to  generate very good  :: streaks.



This is my 4 DS version,  same method+same progression+DS2 and DS5


3    RO  bet  A+ the two Ds, bet 1u on 4DS
17  BO  w  +2  bet B+ , bet 2u
20  BE   w  +6  bet A+,  bet 3u
30  RE   w  +12  bet B+  ,1u
5    RO   w  +14  bet A+ , 2u
34  RE   w  +18  bet B +  ,3u
13  BO   L1 +6    bet B+  ,4u
2    BE   w   +14  bet A + ,5u
28  BE   w   +24  no bet
23  RO                 bet  A+  ,6u
29  BO   w +36   bet B+   ,4u
29  BO   w + 44  no  bet
6    BE                 bet  A+ , 5u
14  RE   w  +54   bet B+   ,6u
18  RE   L1  +30   no bet
1    RO                 bet  A+  ,7u
18  RE  w  +44     bet B+  , 8u
29  BO  w +60     bet  B+  , 9u
21  RO  w  +78    bet A+    ,7u
4    BE  L1  +50

Cheers

[albertojonas]

thx a lot k.

very nice proffit for such a short session

;-)

[GLC]

can anyone resume the system rules so far?

thanks

Al,

Most of the guys live Eastward and so have retired for the night.  I live in Tucson, Arizona, and it's still early here so I'll venture a response.

Atlantis is testing this exactly like Katilla outlined above except that he is resetting to 1 unit whenever he is at even or a new high.

This keeps the size of the units bet down quite a bit.

If you look at Katilla's posts above, you'll notice that his units bet keep gradually growing larger until he reaches a stopping point.

If you look at Reply #143, you'll see that Atlantis' bets stay very small.

The trade-off is with Katilla's you can win a boat load of units, but you need a bigger bank for large drawdowns.

With Atlantis' you don't win as much, but you don't have to have as large a bank to play.

Pick whichever one suits your style.

Of course this is still in the testing stage, but it's looking pretty darn good to me.

George

[albertojonas]

 

oh yes it is indeed.

i'll put my money on this by the end of the week.

'till then i'll keep testing and post my results here.
i usually play at william hill casino or eurogrand (same company) Playtechk
because they have 10cents minimum bet

i've also heard about magnetic balls and stuff (just do not know for sure)

anyways keep it up & thx 4 everything

[Twisteruk]

Al,

Most of the guys live Eastward and so have retired for the night.  I live in Tucson, Arizona, and it's still early here so I'll venture a response.

Atlantis is testing this exactly like Katilla outlined above except that he is resetting to 1 unit whenever he is at even or a new high.

This keeps the size of the units bet down quite a bit.

If you look at Katilla's posts above, you'll notice that his units bet keep gradually growing larger until he reaches a stopping point.

If you look at Reply #143, you'll see that Atlantis' bets stay very small.

The trade-off is with Katilla's you can win a boat load of units, but you need a bigger bank for large drawdowns.

With Atlantis' you don't win as much, but you don't have to have as large a bank to play.

Pick whichever one suits your style.

Of course this is still in the testing stage, but it's looking pretty darn good to me.

George

Well said George !

On a side note, I have a Cousin in Tucson 

[warrior]

FROM  my expierence with the 4 line's  the  safer way is the leveller slow yes positive progression isok but hav not had a good session's

[Kattila]

FROM  my expierence with the 4 line's  the  safer way is the leveller slow yes positive progression isok but hav not had a good session's

For 4 DS(8 streets ...two doz....etc..) I  agree with you , also Leveller + Lw strategy
even better,  but we have to try another options to.

Lw strategy :
Trigger  is W, when appear first L stop, wait new trigger W.


Cheers.

[warrior]

For 4 DS(8 streets ...two doz....etc..) I  agree with you , also Leveller + Lw strategy
even better,  but we have to try another options to.

Lw strategy :
Trigger  is W, when appear first L stop, wait new trigger W.


Cheers.

i agree

[Twisteruk]

Hi guys, I've been trying this out over this weekend for fun money using dublinbet live wheel.

using the original system with kattillas progression, the results have been amazing.
just had a tricky session, where the downside was over 300 points but I kept playing to see the result and it recovered to end in profit.

7 sessions have produced over 1000 points.

i don't have records as such, but I could post the spins if required?

WoW missed this reply !

1000 pts Profit in 7 Sessions ?

That is some nice Profit ! How long were the Sessions ? (approx)

[atlantis]

oh yes it is indeed.
i'll put my money on this by the end of the week.
'till then i'll keep testing and post my results here.
i usually play at william hill casino or eurogrand (same company) Playtechk
because they have 10cents minimum bet
i've also heard about magnetic balls and stuff (just do not know for sure)
anyways keep it up & thanks 4 everything

Hi albertojonas.
It's great that you're doing some tests also. The results have been quite good generally and even exceptionally good in some sessions as you have seen above.
Anyhow, welcome here and let us hope we can make a winning combination!


Atlantis.

[atlantis]

Here is a real session from yesterday. Playing with 4ds + kattila with reset.

Casino Spielbank Wiesbaden 26 SEP 2010; Table 8
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[table=,]
Spin,Num,Type,Bet U,Win,Loss,Net,=Bal.=,Bet Layout
1,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,22,Bet,4,6,-4,2,502,1 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
3,23,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,498,1 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) L
4,29,Bet,8,12,-8,4,502,2 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) W
5,9,Bet,4,6,-4,2,504,1 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
6,28,Bet,4,6,-4,2,506,1 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) W
7,26,Bet,4,6,-4,2,508,1 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) W
8,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
9,34,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,504,1 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) L
10,17,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,496,2 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) L
11,4,Bet,12,18,-12,6,502,3 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
12,24,Bet,16,0,-16,-16,486,4 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) L
13,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,486,
14,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,486,
15,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,486,
16,11,Bet,20,30,-20,10,496,5 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
17,34,Bet,24,0,-24,-24,472,6 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) L
18,33,Bet,28,0,-28,-28,444,7 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) L
19,30,Bet,32,48,-32,16,460,8 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
20,9,Bet,36,54,-36,18,478,9 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
21,7,Bet,40,60,-40,20,498,10 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) W
22,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
23,33,Bet,32,48,-32,16,514,8 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) W
24,5,Bet,4,6,-4,2,516,1 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
25,16,Bet,4,6,-4,2,518,1 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) W
26,29,Bet,4,6,-4,2,520,1 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
27,0,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,516,1 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) L
28,12,Bet,8,12,-8,4,520,2 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
29,9,Bet,4,6,-4,2,522,1 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
30,1,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,518,1 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) L
31,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,518,
32,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,518,
33,29,Bet,8,12,-8,4,522,2 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
34,32,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,518,1 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) L
35,5,Bet,8,12,-8,4,522,2 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
36,6,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,518,1 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) L
37,15,Bet,8,12,-8,4,522,2 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) W
38,16,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,518,1 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) L
39,4,Bet,8,12,-8,4,522,2 : (1-6),(7-12),(19-24),(25-30) W
40,14,Bet,4,6,-4,2,524,1 : (7-12),(13-18),(25-30),(31-36) W
[/table]

+24 in 40 spins.
max drawdown = 64
Highest bet = 4x10

Even with reset you can see that stakes can rise (up to 10 in this session) but once again the bankroll recovers from a low of 444 and the session is ended at 524.

A.

[Side B]

Hi guys, I'm joining you in testing this promising method. Just a bit unsure about which variation to go for right now, I'm tempted to go Kattila's progression with reset, playing 2 DS only

[Twisteruk]

Hi Side B

Yes that is a good idea !

Test that way for 10 Sessions, then test with DS2 and DS5 added into the mix and compare 

I prefer the latter