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Started by atlantis, Sep 16, 06:00 AM 2010

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atlantis

Hi SideB,

Thanks for your update and the 10 session results.
I also like the 3DS way.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

ralph0603

I'm trying this system, but with your new explaination, do I need to bet on 3 lines?
What if I win on first time and I win? I don't bet and do a no-bet spin? And with that outcome I go bet? If I don't win, I raise my bet, and if not win, raise again(to 3, or 4?)? If won, go to 1 again or to 2?

So when to reset, or rebet with the lines?

If lose a bet, you keep the same betting lines like the first bet, or change the bet lines?

atlantis

Quote from: ralph0603 on Oct 06, 02:56 PM 2010
I'm trying this system, but with your new explaination, do I need to bet on 3 lines?
What if I win on first time and I win? I don't bet and do a no-bet spin? And with that outcome I go bet? If I don't win, I raise my bet, and if not win, raise again(to 3, or 4?)? If won, go to 1 again or to 2?

So when to reset, or rebet with the lines?

If lose a bet, you keep the same betting lines like the first bet, or change the bet lines?

You can bet 2, 3 or 4 lines depending on how you like to play.
The previous number determines which lines to bet. (or not bet at all if an EC repeat e.g.: BO, BO)
This may not be same every spin.
You will find all the rules and suggested progressions earlier in the topic along with full explanation on how to play and example results.

Cheers,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Side B

Quote from: Side B on Oct 02, 12:31 PM 2010
Update:

Session 8: 41 spins, + 12 units
Session 9: 31 spins, + 30 units
Session 10: 19 spins, +30 units

Total profit to date: +172 units

Anyone else still playing this?



New update: since my last message I have played another 21 sessions and won another 346 units. Total to date playing 3-line combo: + 518 units. I now play Ã,£2 a unit. All sessions apart from one ended with a positive total. Needless to say I am liking this a lot and I have made up my losses  from playing Fender's Zone!!

Although some sessions can take you to -150 to -200 units, it's always recovered so far, it's mind-boggling. I'm waiting for this system to fail but it just doesn't want to!!    :P

GLC

Quote from: Side B on Oct 11, 12:21 PM 2010
New update: since my last message I have played another 21 sessions and won another 346 units. Total to date playing 3-line combo: + 518 units. I now play Ã,£2 a unit. All sessions apart from one ended with a positive total. Needless to say I am liking this a lot and I have made up my losses  from playing Fender's Zone!!

Although some sessions can take you to -150 to -200 units, it's always recovered so far, it's mind-boggling. I'm waiting for this system to fail but it just doesn't want to!!    :P

Good on ya Cobber.

Thanks for keeping the thread alive.  It does hold up pretty good.

Sounds like you're playing it for real dinero. 

That gives your sessions much more weight.

Keep it up, and may you recover 100's of times more than you lost.

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

ausjase

hi side b
exellent results what progression are you using
cheers

Side B

GLC, yes I'm definitely playing real money, it's not as much fun otherwise  :P  It's a live airball wheel though, no RNG ever!

The system and progression I use are as posted by Atlantis when he introduced his variation playing 3 lines (instead of 2 or 4). The progression itself is the following chain: 112233445566 etc, going back 1 step on a win and going forward 1 step on a loss. I don't really have a stop-loss as so far it recovers time after time, but I suppose it would be wiser to have one...


atlantis

Great to hear those last results posts.
I myself played in real casino and won 40 units a couple of nights ago.
I prefer the 3 line option - but sometimes I will play the original 2 DS version.

TEST
====
Casino Spielbank, Wiesbaden 12 Oct 2010 - Table 8 (yesterday)
Using 3-Line version:
+30 in 44 spins.
Max drawdown=12
Highest Bet=3

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

GLC

I just had a thought.

From looking at some of Fripper's graphs, it looks like most down turns are under 50 units.

This could probably be a good stop loss target. 

Of course, some went way beyond 50, but the units below 50 would never be lost.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

atlantis

Quote from: GLC on Oct 13, 09:52 AM 2010
I just had a thought.

From looking at some of Fripper's graphs, it looks like most down turns are under 50 units.

This could probably be a good stop-loss target. 

Of course, some went way beyond 50, but the units below 50 would never be lost.

GLC

Another thing you can do for extra caution/security, and seems working well with the 3 line combo bet, is to wait for 2 *consecutive* fictive losses (virtual or paperplay losses) before stepping in with the bet/progression... After a win, again wait for 2 consecutive L's.
Ensure to use exact same rules as before. Just record 2 consecutive instances of what would have been losses under normal play and only then make a play on the appropriate lines.
Takes a  little longer of course, but some might be more comfortable or confident with this approach.


Happy winnings!
:)

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

jordan69

Great Atlantis.
Did you make some new tests with this mod' ?
I would like to contribute but i have to find (urgently) a new appartment now...
so very busy  :( Not easy to spend times even i would really like to help :)

Cheers.

Jordan69
English is not my first language...
but i try my best !
Welcome to my polish friends !

GLC

Hey Guys,

I have playing around with another bet sequence that has showing good results.

Not a lot different from some others, but maybe a little safer.

It's lose 3 up 1 for EC's.

In other words, when you lose 3 times, you go up 1 more unit.

It doesn't matter how many times you win at that level.

The only time you change the bet size after a win is if you are at a new high, then reset. 

Only when you lose 3 times (remember, it doesn't have to be in a row and usually isn't) do you increase by 1 unit.

This works with single line systems or multi-line systems.

If you want it to be even safer, you could wait for 4 or 5 losses before you increase.

Of course, the larger the number before increasing, the closer you get to a flat bet.

Run it through some of your previous sessions and see how it looks compared to other progressions.

I know it's not much new, but you just never know when the big light will come on.

Regards,

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Side B

Well I for one is happy that people have started contributing again, yesterday I read this thread again from the start and it used to be very active, lots of contributing and testing, then it all kind of fizzled out... Only this time it's not because the system fails because it doesn't (not so far for me anyway). GLC, thanks for your suggestions. Atlantis, I occasionally wait for one or two virtual losses at the beginning of the game, then I bet and carry on betting no matter what happens. Have I just been lucky? Once you get yourself in a -200 unit hole, surely it should be hard to get back into profit... Why isn't it failing?

Hope we get more testers on board. I'm now Ã,£610 in profit after playing this for 2 weeks by the way...


atlantis

Example playing Line Bet Combo (3 DS version) on Single 0 wheel waiting for 2 virtual L's before each coup attempt:
Note that the virtual L's must be consecutive or have NO BETS in between each "L".
Sometimes 2 virtual L's can be followed by NO BETS before betting can commence.
I counted 0 as a virtual loss.
If 2 similar EC combos are split by a 0 then the next bet is treated as a normal NO BET e.g.: RO, ZERO, RO (wait for change of EC combo)
I used the standard progression for 3 line combo bet: 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4...etc. Forward 1 on a loss. Back 1 on a win. Reset when level or ahead.


Casino Spielbank, Wiesbaden 12 Oct 2010 - Table 8
======================================
[table=,]
Spin,Num,=Type=,=Unit=,Win,Loss,=Net=,=Bal.=,Bet Layout
1,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500, virtual L
3,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500, virtual L
4,35,Bet,3,6,-3,3,503,1 : (13-18)(25-30)(31-36) **REAL W
5,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503, virtual L
6,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503, virtual W (line repetition after 0)
7,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503, NO BET
8,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503, NO BET
9,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503, virtual L
10,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503, virtual L
11,13,Bet,3,6,-3,3,506,1 : (1-6)(13-18)(31-36) **REAL W
12,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual W
13,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual W
14,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual W (line repetition)
15,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual L
16,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual W
17,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual W
18,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual L
19,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual W
20,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual W
21,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual L
22,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, NO BET
23,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, NO BET
24,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, NO BET
25,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, NO BET
26,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual L
27,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, NO BET
28,25,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,503,1 : (13-18)(19-24)(31-36) **REAL L
29,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503, NO BET
30,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503, NO BET
31,20,Bet,3,12,-3,3,506,1 : (13-18)(19-24)(31-36) ** REAL W
32,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, NO BET
33,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual W
34,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual L
35,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, virtual L
36,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, NO BET
37,18,Bet,3,6,-3,3,509,1 : (1-6)(13-18)(31-36) **REAL W
38,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509, virtual L
39,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509, virtual L
40,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509, NO BET
41,14,Bet,3,6,-3,3,512,1 : (1-6)(13-18)(31-36) **REAL W
42,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual W
43,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual W
44,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual W (line repetition)
45,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, NO BET
46,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, NO BET
47,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
48,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
49,30,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,509,1 : (1-6)(7-12)(25-30) **REAL L
50,12,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,506,1 : (1-6)(19-24)(25-30) **REAL L
51,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, NO BET
52,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, NO BET
53,4,Bet,6,6,-6,6,512,2 : (1-6)(13-18)(31-36) **REAL W
54,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, NO BET
55,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual W
56,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
57,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
58,0,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,509,1 : (1-6)(13-18)(19-24) **REAL L
59,24,Bet,3,6,-3,3,512,1 : (1-6)(13-18)(19-24) **REAL W
60,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
61,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, NO BET
62,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, NO BET
63,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
64,2,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,509,1 : (13-18)(25-30)(31-36) **REAL L
65,32,Bet,3,6,-3,3,512,1 : (1-6)(13-18)(31-36) **REAL W
66,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
67,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
68,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, NO BET
69,11,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,509,1 : (13-18)(19-24)(31-36) **REAL L
70,5,Bet,3,6,-3,3,512,1 : (1-6)(7-12)(19-24) **REAL W
71,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
72,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual W
73,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
74,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
75,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, NO BET
76,8,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,509,1 : (1-6)(13-18)(19-24) **REAL L
77,26,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,506,1 : (7-12)(13-18)(31-36) **REAL L
78,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506, NO BET
79,27,Bet,6,12,-6,6,512,2 : (1-6)(19-24)(25-30) **REAL W
80,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
81,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512, virtual L
82,33,Bet,3,6,-3,3,515,1 : (7-12)(13-18)(31-36) **REAL W
[/table]

82 spins.
18 bets triggered.
maxdrawdown=6
lowest bank=500/500
+15 profit
highest bet = 1st@2 (x3) =6u

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Quote from: Side B on Oct 15, 02:12 PM 2010
Well I for one is happy that people have started contributing again, yesterday I read this thread again from the start and it used to be very active, lots of contributing and testing, then it all kind of fizzled out... Only this time it's not because the system fails because it doesn't (not so far for me anyway). GLC, thanks for your suggestions. Atlantis, I occasionally wait for one or two virtual losses at the beginning of the game, then I bet and carry on betting no matter what happens. Have I just been lucky? Once you get yourself in a -200 unit hole, surely it should be hard to get back into profit... Why isn't it failing?

Hope we get more testers on board. I'm now Ã,£610 in profit after playing this for 2 weeks by the way...

Hi SideB,
The old saying "If it ain't broke..."
I'm really pleased to learn of your real success with this. And that is prolly the way I would play ideally as well. Just showing a more careful, perhaps less riskier slant that could or might be adopted in an attempt to lessen danger...

Thanks for your continued perseverance and suggestions.

:thumbsup:


Atlantis.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

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