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ignatus

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Randomness
Jan 26, 02:16 PM 2014
is roulette really unbeateble in the end?

...is not randomness a proof God exist?

something so complicated, so chaotic, beyond our understanding?

in the end is randomness is a chaotic beast with immortal life, that cannot be destroyed?

randomness is chaos , randomness is god

like something we know exist that we can see but not comprehend?

randomness is proof of immortality and god
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Re: Randomness
Jan 26, 02:35 PM 2014
Sorry, I must have missed something

How does it prove God again?

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Re: Randomness
Jan 26, 02:54 PM 2014
Amongst the brilliant people of the world there is a saying:  What is, is

Now think about this:  Gravity is.  Yet we fly in our contraptions.

Randomness is, yet__________________!

Ow!  That was so brilliant, it made my head hurt!

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Re: Randomness
Jan 26, 02:56 PM 2014
Quite the opposite dear Ignatus

God is a man made concept. Random isn't.

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Re: Randomness
Jan 26, 05:38 PM 2014
Trying to get my head around RNG produced by 'honest' software developers.

As such, their RNG is software based, therefore it has a 'written' element, i.e. produced by a programmer.

Perhaps we have someone on here who could explain how the RNG is produced - preferably in layman terms.

Are there certain factors built into the RNG such as occasionally 20 reds or blacks are shown, that a dozen must sleep for 20 spins, that a number will appear 3 times in a row, etc. Or is it a real RNG, in that occurrences that I have mentioned will naturally occur and there is no need to program such events? Which is precisely how Casinos will always come out on top with no manipulation.

I still maintain that it is defeatist to try to beat the RNG. I have many systems that do win but will never beat the game.


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Re: Randomness
Jan 26, 07:33 PM 2014
Trying to get my head around RNG produced by 'honest' software developers.

As such, their RNG is software based, therefore it has a 'written' element, i.e. produced by a programmer.


RNG:  Go to Random.org  there is a section there where they explain how their's is generated.

I believe, if you take number's from there, fine tune your playing with their number's. You will be able to beat any randomness.


I still maintain that it is defeatist to try to beat the RNG. I have many systems that do win but will never beat the game.

I for one have always believed and still saying it. The only way to get ahead in roulette is to play 4-5 systems in one sitting.
You should be able to master all your systems inside out. As WINKEL has said, be able to see what's happening at that moment, and play the system that works. After a few dozen spins, the other system will wake up. The current one will go to sleep. If you have a few weapons and enough bankroll, you will win sessions in and out. You might lose 1 here and there, but you will come out ahead.


In respect to "GOD" it's in one's inner self to accept or not.

However, there is always and will always remain outside factor called "LUCK".  You can reduce the LUCK factor if you going to understand what's happening to the number's. 
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Re: Randomness
Jan 27, 12:14 AM 2014
Ignatus raises an interesting topic.

Human beings are not supposed to see into the
future (albeit there are some real psychics out there).

is roulette really unbeateble in the end?

I believe it is beatable (look at Mr. J's $18K win in one session)
*I also understand he is a Christian.

Since people are espousing beliefs I'd like to say
God is in every outcome, whether we believe it or not.

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Re: Randomness
Jan 27, 02:42 AM 2014
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Are there certain factors built into the RNG such as occasionally 20 reds or blacks are shown, that a dozen must sleep for 20 spins, that a number will appear 3 times in a row, etc. Or is it a real RNG, in that occurrences that I have mentioned will naturally occur and there is no need to program such events? Which is precisely how Casinos will always come out on top with no manipulation.

They naturally occur, all by themselves, honest. BUT it is easy for a casino to cheat, the software could easily be told to spit out a number that isn't covered at any time that's why BetVoyager is a good choice as your number set is set in stone for its duration.
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Re: Randomness
Jan 27, 03:24 AM 2014

Human beings are not supposed to see into the
future (albeit there are some real psychics out there).


We can all predict the future... an we call can do it very well... we only dont think about it.. and we are only trained todo it very short term... like max a few seconds ahead...  so if we train more and extent that time frame... who knows... we can beat roulette
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Re: Randomness
Jan 27, 05:10 PM 2014
Randomness is how God does you favors without everyone else knowing. He can switch things in your favor and you can chalk it up to being lucky. Just remember, if you have a long losing streak, god hates you.
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Re: Randomness
Jan 28, 08:33 AM 2014
I strongly dissagree FreeRoulette, but if that is your belief...

It funny how things work out.  You may spend years working on the HG and go to the casino and lose your bankroll--but as you walk out you find a lottery ticket worth twice what your bankroll was.

So define Grail...

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Re: Randomness
Jan 28, 08:58 AM 2014
I guess some could benifit to read a book like "the secret of the millionaire mind" , you can try "The Secret" But I dont belief a cheque of 50k will drop in may mailbox is you just think about it.  >:D
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Re: Randomness
Jan 28, 09:47 AM 2014
I don't belief a cheque of 50k will drop in may
mailbox is you just think about it.--Spin4Fun


OK then I will take your check for 50K if you don't want it. :)
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Seriously however alongside proper money managenemt, solid system and bankroll--a can-do mindset.

Not to play up the religious discussion, but with the Roulette wheel and
the 666 reference there is a spiritual element to be taken into account.

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Re: Randomness
Jan 28, 09:59 AM 2014
I strongly dissagree FreeRoulette, but if that is your belief...

It funny how things work out.  You may spend years working on the holy grail and go to the casino and lose your bankroll--but as you walk out you find a lottery ticket worth twice what your bankroll was.

So define Grail...

Don't want to debate on it but I think, this is identical to the statement that FreeRoulette has made.

If GOD(or any outside factor you want to beleive) didn't like you, you wouldn't have found the ticket.
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Re: Randomness
Jan 28, 10:08 AM 2014
Proof says it all,  if you believe or not... if you dont have"a can-do mindset" + TAKE ACTION (this part is general forgotten) ..   you will get nothing...
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