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[Azim]

I know. I am saying this after the fact that it hit.  But try your stop-loss at 5th spin  or 4th spin where there is only 1 unit profit.

In other words..  if you betting on the right column to hit.  We only bet for 4-5 spins.  It doesn't matter if the left column goes ahead as long as we don't go pass our cut-off spin. Which is pre-determined by flat betting or progression.

Try it out for a few sessions.

[buffalowizard]

I think I understand Azim,
So basically stop and retrack after no hit within 4-5 spins?
Here's next random sample, but all hit within that.


6   1
2   6
6   5
1   1
4   6
6   2
1   2   0-1
1   3   1-1
6   1
5   5
1   2
4   3
3   5
6   6
3   2
5   4
2   5
1   2
1   2   2-1 / 2-2
4   2
3   6
5   4
1   4   2-3
4   2
6   5
5   1
5   3   3-3
5   3   3-4
4   6
1   6   3-5 TRIGGER
6   6
4   3
1   5
1   6   WIN on 4th 4-5
4   6
3   2
6   3
1   3   4-6
6   1
5   5
5   3   WIN on 3rd 5-6
6   5
2   2
6   2   TRIGGER 5-7
5   3
4   5
4   1   WIN on 3rd 6-7
5   2
5   3   7-7
1   1

[Turner]

Hi,

I've been looking at double streets in columns and how each side
tends to distribute very evenly.

Buff....you really are a DS junky aren't you?

What i really like about that is.....if there is a good idea in DS....you will find it.

DS or nothing. Its the only way to find a winner.

I am currently obsessed with what happens after a repeat. I've been on it for 5 months.

Now....

Question is......what's that grouping of A B actually doing?

[buffalowizard]

Buff....you really are a DS junky aren't you?

What i really like about that is.....if there is a good idea in DS....you will find it.

DS or nothing. Its the only way to find a winner.

I am currently obsessed with what happens after a repeat. I've been on it for 5 months.

Now....

Question is......what's that grouping of A B actually doing?

Thanks for the kind words...yes I do seem to always come back to them for some
reason.

What do you mean exactly, by 'after' a repeat?

So,

2
3
3 <here's the repeat
5 <here's what comes after
4 <for how many spins are you interested in?

[Azim]

I think I understand Azim,
So basically stop and retrack after no hit within 4-5 spins?
Here's next random sample, but all hit within that.

Exactly, now you have to find out which I think you already did. If you use progression, how many sessions do you have to win and remain ahead if a loss comes your way.

I think DS  4-5 spins is a safe number.  If at 5 you make 1 unit.  That's still a win. No need for progression.

[buffalowizard]

Thanks Azim,
Makes it so much easier to work out too! I'll look back and see in each session. Only trouble is, with triggers sometimes taking a good 50 spins to appear, one loss of 5 might take more time to claw back if played in b+m casino.

BW

[Azim]

True. That's why you want to avoid progression.  While you doing that, look at it from a point of start betting after 2,3,4 spin.. See how many will you miss and is it worth waiting for the last spin. Less losses but more chances to hit.

[buffalowizard]

I did spot something pretty cool having looked over the sessions and that is that in every one, at some
point, both columns are equal - be it 1-1, 2-2, 3-3 or whatever.

So, another angle of attack could be when one column is one away from the other - say 2-3 - and then bet
for the equaliser. If it goes two away - 2-4 - for example, then stop and wait for it to get to one away again.

It also gives me the opportunity to call it a pretty banging name: 'The Equaliser' !

[Azim]

I did spot something pretty cool having looked over the sessions and that is that in every one, at some
point, both columns are equal - be it 1-1, 2-2, 3-3 or whatever.

So, another angle of attack could be when one column is one away from the other - say 2-3 - and then bet
for the equaliser. If it goes two away - 2-4 - for example, then stop and wait for it to get to one away again.

It also gives me the opportunity to call it a pretty banging name: 'The Equaliser' !

I am glad you brought it up and not me.  BUT DON'T DO IT.  YOU WILL GET INTO THE HOUSE EDGE of 2.7%.  YOU WILL END UP BETTING EVERY SPIN.

[buffalowizard]

I know what you're saying - just feel that an edge over this supposed 'parity' phenomenon is getting closer

[buffalowizard]

Just out of interest, how it could be played another way.
Lots of interpretations/adaptations etc with this bet selection

A      B

5   1
5   2   1-0 bet for equaliser 6 times max
4   4
5   5
1   2
5   1
5   1  1-1 +1 - However, overall it's 2-1, due to the double 5 in column A, so bet column B again
3   3
2   3   2-2 win +5
3   6
1   6   2-3 bet column A
3   2
2   2
6   4
6   3   3-4 win +7 bet column A
6   2
4   5
1   3
1   5   4-4 win +9 no bet
4   1
3   4
6   1
6   1   5-4 bet column B - win first spin +15
3   2
1   2   5-5
1   2   6-5 bet column B - This is a weird one because I wouldn't bet until the DS 2 had been broken.
5   2
2   2
6   2
5   5   bet
3   5   win, 6-6 we're gettin lucky on this one +21
6   3
4   5
3   1
4   4
3   2
6   6
5   6   6-7 bet column A
3   1
1   2
2   2
3   4
4   1
4   2   7-7 win on sixth, +21
6   5
1   4
6   6
1   1
6   2
1   3

[Azim]

It all boils down to is how much of a bankroll and return on your bankroll you are after.

If things get worse, how much you willing to lose.

[Buffster]

Buff

From what I can see you've been tracking without ZERO. I've been running some test data with ZERO and a bit of advice if you're going to play this live on a ZERO wheel. Reset your tracking after every 50 spins because your ecart starts getting out of control starting at around spin 50, that is if you want to stay within your 1-2 point difference.

Does look interesting though.

B

[agesta]

Hi!
I understand the concept but please explain how i pick the DS to bet on after the trigger, i don`t get that.
Thanks for this interesting system!

agesta

[amk]

Great observation BW,

Sorry to side track perhaps but what happens when you make 3 columns?

Feels like the bet selection can be more clearly seen, maybe more opportunities???