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Started by steven1212, Jan 31, 01:39 PM 2014

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kingmaq

Quote from: ignatus on Sep 27, 07:43 AM 2017
pls explain the "recovery" method you use once the whole progression-line is lost? please do? and please explain how you recover if the whole progression-line is lost AGAIN once you try to recover from the first loss? You think this is not going to happen? No? ...

Steven starts with 10% his bankroll for the first day, from these 10% he is willing to risk only 40%.

Example start bankroll 1000, daily budget 200, amount to be risked with 4 progression is 100.

If he lost it, he comes next day and do the same calculus

steven1212

Quote from: kingmaq on Sep 27, 07:44 AM 2017
I will play double dozens with clever selection, bankroll is 1000 with 80 units progression

Your first pocket for example is 200. So you divide 200 by 80 to see what is your chip size. It’s 2.5. So you have the choice to select a chip size of 2 or 3. If you select 2, your whole progression will cost 160. If you select 3, it will cost you 240.

Remember that when I first explained the system i said that it’s arbitrary wether you divide you bank roll by 3 or 5 or 10. It works in every case. Even if you just divide by 2. It just depends on your stomach. Divide it by 10 and the growth will be slower but the losses as well, and vice versa

So you can choose what you prefer between a chip size of 2 and 3. If you choose the 160 progression it’s like if you divide your original bankroll by 6,25 instead of 5. It works. If you chooose the bankroll of 240 it’s almost like if you divide it by 4. It works very well too.

I would suggest you choose the chip size of 2 will you gain confidence, then you can attack more aggressively.

As a general rule when this applies i round up the chip size to the closed even number.

For example if you divide you bankroll and find that your chip size is 2,36, I would use chips of 2. If the chip size you get is 2,72, I would use chips of 3.

steven1212

Quote from: ArmitageShanks on Sep 27, 07:36 AM 2017
Sorry if not clear Just trying to clarify the Football bet with MM

assuming bet odds all 1.20
10 80unit bets @ 1.20 if all winners wins 160 this gets added to the original amount which would now be 400. I then divde this by 3 and round down to 130 and attack with this amont for another 10 bets.

Again same as above but this time i lose on the 5th bet. I would have already won 4 bets so be plus 64 but now lost the 80 and dont have enough for another 80 bet. i stop add this to pot dived by 3 and start again with new amount

Again as above but lose 80 on 9th bet meaning i have 144 from the other 9 wins . Do i stop here as i have enough to bet a 10th time at 80 or does it matter?

You have it completely wrong. Driving now, I will explain soon.

cht

Quote from: ignatus on Sep 27, 07:43 AM 2017
pls explain the "recovery" method you use once the whole progression-line is lost? please do? and please explain how you recover if the whole progression-line is lost AGAIN once you try to recover from the first loss? You think this is not going to happen? No? ...
Hi ignatus, I understand your apprehension.

Read post#923 and #928 for explanation.

I don't know if it will fail with a black swan event with this double dz code4 model but I do know that it can be coded and tested over millions of spins with Rx.

Can you/any programmer run this test with $1000 br, 4steps marty, Steven's MM and tell us the result pls. Thanks

Ps. I am not using the original betselection.

ArmitageShanks

Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 27, 07:53 AM 2017
You have it completely wrong. Driving now, I will explain soon.

Not the first time   :)

kingmaq

Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 27, 07:52 AM 2017
Your first pocket for example is 200. So you divide 200 by 80 to see what is your chip size. It’s 2.5. So you have the choice to select a chip size of 2 or 3. If you select 2, your whole progression will cost 160. If you select 3, it will cost you 240.

Remember that when I first explained the system i said that it’s arbitrary wether you divide you bank roll by 3 or 5 or 10. It works in every case. Even if you just divide by 2. It just depends on your stomach. Divide it by 10 and the growth will be slower but the losses as well, and vice versa

So you can choose what you prefer between a chip size of 2 and 3. If you choose the 160 progression it’s like if you divide your original bankroll by 6,25 instead of 5. It works. If you chooose the bankroll of 240 it’s almost like if you divide it by 4. It works very well too.

I would suggest you choose the chip size of 2 will you gain confidence, then you can attack more aggressively.

As a general rule when this applies i round up the chip size to the closed even number.

For example if you divide you bankroll and find that your chip size is 2,36, I would use chips of 2. If the chip size you get is 2,72, I would use chips of 3.

Thx Steven, that's what i am going to do.

I was thinking if can bet on 24  straight numbers instead of double dozens.

This is will win more than the double dozens. But the only problem is that one needs then an higher bankroll.


romano0327

Hello Steven,

Nice to hear that you spent sometime in my country.

Guys please stop confronting Steve, he has shared something with us without asking for anything in return, it would be different if he was asking us to pay him, then you would have the right to doubt and feel offended, if you like it take it, if you dont then leave it, if you have questions, ask kindly...

Steven I think I understand everything, I just have some doubts that I would like to clear.

Using your example with a banlroll of 1000 units divided into 5 small bankrolls of 200 units, if we loose the progression then we would loose 80 units, if we loose the progression on spin 40, then we would loose only 40 units of our first small 200 unit bankroll, then we would have a 160 units left for the session...One of my doubts is, do we aim on each session to double our small bankroll, to win 200 units and then we can recalculate or small bankrolls again (1200/ 5 = 240)? or do we just aim to win 80 spins to recalculate our small bankrolls again (1080 / 5 = 216)? Also do we recalculate our bankrolls again if we loose any progression (minus 80 units) ? or do we recalculate our bankrolls only if we loose a complete small bankroll (minus 200 units) ?

Another doubt I have is, if our bet selection will loose 1 in 80 times, doesnt that mean that the statistic will kill us overtime? becouse we need to win at least 80 times in a row or more to secure breakeven or some profit, but the statistic is telling us that we will loose 1 in the 80 spins, usually before we have the chance to achieve the breakeven point or profit point.

Thank you Steve in advance,

cht

Not rubbing anyone, I think many still haven't properly and completely understand what Steven has shared with us. He'll have to do more explanation.  :lol:

kingmaq

Quote from: cht on Sep 27, 08:09 AM 2017
Not rubbing anyone, I think many still haven't properly and completely understand what Steven has shared with us. He'll have to do more explanation.  :lol:

Yeah!
But i personally understood it, it is a solid system, all what you need is good bets selection and discipline.

steven1212

Quote from: kingmaq on Sep 27, 07:57 AM 2017
Thx Steven, that's what i am going to do.

I was thinking if can bet on 24  straight numbers instead of double dozens.

This is will win more than the double dozens. But the only problem is that one needs then an higher bankroll.

Or a smaller limit table. Just so you I believe that a big bankroll is the key to a consistent earning situation in gambling. By bankroll at football is near 200k and I divide it by 40 to calculate my attacks. I make great profit and if I lose I can barely tell in the overall bankroll. That’s why I’m invincible.

cht

Quote from: kingmaq on Sep 27, 08:13 AM 2017
Yeah!
But i personally understood it, it is a solid system, all what you need is good bets selection and discipline.
Play at dragonara mate. They don't log you out for inactivity.

kingmaq

Steven, i dunno but it seems (at least according to my simulation ) if the W and L alternates over 30 sessions /days this is going to lose !  Can you double check ?

Start bankroll 1000

1-  W.  +1100
2-  L.   +990
3-  W.  +1089
4-  L.    +980

steven1212

Quote from: kingmaq on Sep 27, 08:27 AM 2017
Steven, i dunno but it seems (at least according to my simulation ) if the W and L alternates over 30 sessions /days this is going to lose !  Can you double check ?

Start bankroll 1000

1-  W.  +1100
2-  L.   +990
3-  W.  +1089
4-  L.    +980

You made a mistake. On day 1 if you win you don’t win 100 but 200. That’s your target.
The math rule is simple if you wanna make some calculation. For every lost session, you multiply the bankroll by 0.9 to find out how much you have left after the loss. After each win, you multiply it by 1.2.

Starting balance 1000
Multiplied by 1.2 = 1200
Multiplied by 0.9 = 900

cht

Quote from: kingmaq on Sep 27, 07:48 AM 2017
Steven starts with 10% his bankroll for the first day, from these 10% he is willing to risk only 40%.
Steven does not have a session loss target. He plays each session to either lose the entire progression then stop or hit the win target.

steven1212

Quote from: cht on Sep 27, 08:43 AM 2017
Steven does not have a session loss target. He plays each session to either lose the entire progression then stop or hit the win target.

Exactly. But if you lose in the middle of the session you only lost half of it cause you also have winnings.
If you lose at the beginning you lose most of it. If you lose torwards  the end you still have most of it. I’m average, you can suppose that you lose around half.

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