COMMON SENSE BETTING + PROFESSIONAL ROULETTE STUDIES

[chrisbis]

glad Ur still posting on the Matrix zone, and alike,

......and I'm so glad U called it a "Dance", ..............because that's just how I see it.
Just got to learn the steps to its routine,
and know when it changing from a Cha-Cha to a Waltz!!

Keep up the good work forum Fellow.
Pm or email any-time.

[XXVV]

This is not the crazy spin series I referred to - I will post that another time but this is from last night and shows a neat simple example of what I am targetting :

29
29
27
28
9
13
27   trigger

33

36  hit

3

36  hit

21
26
32
28
6.......    note emphasis on 3rd column and also 3rd dozen more generally

Nice simple passage. Easy to read if you set it out in columns and matrix code.

Hope this helps
XX V V

[XXVV]

This will be my last post for a while as there is a lot of travel ahead. However here is that crazy sequence earlier referred to.

1
30
13
10
16  trigger
13
6
10
30
9
20
13
21
18
36
36
10
10
4
4
10
20
24
17
4
22
7                    the first column dominance didnt end there but this was the core session

Notice the penultimate and consequel hits on the first col and first dozen. On one matrix method there were 8 hits in this sequence ( all in col a) and on another matrix method which is not hard to find in the last 13 spins there were 11 hits!

I emphasise these are short term phenomena but they recur in clusters themselves then may go cool. Nearby tables may then offer fresh opportunities.

It is not black and white, it is a little lateral, a little fuzzy, a little grey, but when you get used to looking for key trigger characteristics such as the first 13 and 16, and then be flexible enough to extend the pattern to the first dozen, there are rich pickings. When overlapped with other warm / hot number criteria then this was a classic.

Good Hunting
XX V V

[XXVV]

Am exploring applications now for EC betting - the matrix work can have Doz and Col successful application but I am trying now to find best ways for more professional betting with threads interweaving on the fascinating work by Compa and possible use of the Don's method when it is eventually fully trialed, fully on a large sample base and simplified to its essence.

I am very grateful to those individuals for being so open and generous with their work to benefit us all.

My own testing of a promising EC bet - an 'unbeatable bet' came unstuck on game 200 of 300 tests with an unplayable* 414 spins from Wiesbaden. When you are playing any form of progression - no matter how disguised or rationalised one failure is catastrophic. Thanks for testing!

Oddly coming out of that disaster I am looking to reverse a previous assumption and that MAY be a breakthrough.

There is no doubt that some matrix situations can favour/ trigger  and load a particular dozen / wheel section and column. Also an EC loading. Therefore will continue to explore overlap theory and update soon.

Looking for simplicity, consistency, lacl of volatility and preferably flat staking where at all possible.

Good Fortune
XX V V

[XXVV]

The assumption made by the inventor of an ingenious EC negative progression staking programme who modestly claimed the method was unbeatable was in error.

First the progression was fallible and secondly the choice to always play opposite of previous spin was the wrong one. Same is a more common outcome as streaks flow longer than chops change.

XXVV

[XXVV]

There appear to be at times long stable runs of streaky outcomes in selection of direct Red or Black ( or possibly also the reverse) from Compa's triggers in column three when tested over 5000 spins recently.

Such stable outcome opportunities can give +5 to +8 unit opportunities for those who know what they are doing.

Such results as these, what more do you need or want....

XX V V

[Big EZ]

Hey X, I enjoy reading your posts because of the insight you provide.

Is your most recent test/revelation also based on the premise of flat betting?

Can you please share with us the triggers that Compa has talked about.  I cant seem to find that thread.  Thanks

[XXVV]

Thanks Big EZ

Pleasure. The reference is Bet Selection page 2 and Holy Grail by Compa. Brilliant and observed like so may matrix type phenomena comes in clusters but recently over 4000 live spins recorded in 80-100 spin sessions, the black trigger provided a swing to black by 5.2% which is significant.

This is of course flat betting because real professional play cannot use any other way * - the risks of catastrophic failure are just not needed when unit value may be very high.

* that is XXVV personal view

The plays were targetted for one spin only. Of course there are numerous suggested progressions for playing from 3 to 6 outcomes but they all tempt fate. Many report success.

The triggers suggested by Compa, if he will permit me to reveal are as follows :

6 15 24 33  for black to follow ( and reverse for red to follow)

3 9 12 18 21 27 30 36 for red to follow ( and reverse for black to follow)

Clause should be added here that you should do your own live testing only at B+M casino or you may research Wiesbaden data, prior to your personal live real play.

My observation is that there is merit in this method when play is timely. For the reverse to also show success at times indicates play may often be choppy when third column presents. When play is not timely then quickly change - do not force it.

Hope this helps
XXVV

[XXVV]

These are exciting times.

Learning from a new thread on re-activated "Law of the Third" with great contributions from posters, I have noticed particularly that ideas can be developed and extended when you attempt to express them more and more, and the clearer they become - this may be visually, or in words, or in other media. It is a subtle art and it is a great Quest.

I think that is why so many become quite emotionally charged with the hunt. It can become a passion, or more. We care.

Some writers on roulette have contributed so much in their mathematics and/or in the world of creativity by stating an idea - based on some insight and then testing that in direct physical experience at the wheel, then adjusted the idea or discarded it. It starts with a vision. As we say "I see".

What I am finding is that by intense study and application in theory and in practice, we receive help ( if we ask for it), and the spirit of good will and encouragement within this forum at this time is remarkable. The resources here are formidable. It is like a massive resource toolbox. Full of promise.

[XXVV]

OK
am trying to formulate and synthesise this commonsense thread (thanks CS)
into sufficient specifics to enable us to move forward with say four types of bet. There is a goal and end in sight. Results will be published in due course, and if successful outline method will be described. This exercise will take time.

I like to oscillate from the general to the specific to endeavour to take in the big picture and the detail. Hence the extended analogy with fuzzy work has been useful and thanks to posters has been shown to be very practical as well.

I have been reminded by one of my local colleagues that no bet alone *can deal with the tests/ opportunities that randomness and the true nature of roulette provides. It needs to be part of a series which may be a set of rules/ triggers/ devices to best handle the flow.

* always open to correction of course!

The bet types I want to try to harness.....and I am sharing my goals with you....these are works in progress.

a. a simple quite general bet ( and sequence) which can deal with the big picture yet can be adjusted  sufficiently with pre worked rules to reliably produce a positive return.  outside bets.  triggers may restrict live play to 50% of outcomes or less.

The trade off may be a slower rate of winning a unit, but the unit , if flat staked can be relatively high value and can be systematically increased. A realistic goal is to parlay or earn say 5-10% return on a session bank and compound this. I have a little inner game here and I try to beat my previous record but so far the best was when I fell at the 13th fence, and that was a little while back.

b. a fuzzy bet which again flat staked and monitored with discipline may cover say 4 inside bet targets. short sequences of max 9 spins. matrix work and threads.

c. perhaps a bet of 8- 16 numbers, again avoiding any progression but factoring stable EC patterns of R/B and H/L/ and or Doz/Col short term stabilities, or a moving window based on the random phenomenon of some repeats and some sleepers ( so called Law of the Third). Short passages of play.

d. an EC bet with a spreader bet selection and ABWAB method and (dare I say it) a stepped negative progression to enable a +1 unit profit per sequence which can provide average of +5 units gain per hour. Key is to bet SAME. This will only proceed live if I am satisfied with 3 x 3 x 10 sessions at 100 spins approx. and 100% success.

Now these are four different approaches all touched on earlier in this thread and work is underway right now to test out these ideas before attempting to apply them to live B+M.

Ambitious. Yes.

XXVV

[chrisbis]

Ambitious, - always (the nature of the player and the game combined I think)

Tho nothing short of what is achievable.

Happy testing.


(edit- Item d.  sounds like maybe given the title- Ambush, or Dandy Highwayman.

(waiting for the event to happen- Inevitably)

[XXVV]

Stand and Deliver indeed!

part d is ploughing through the wiesbaden countryside like a highwayman's rapier and pistol set...

Cheers xxvv

[XXVV]

I had to think carefully about it but I now know what the symbol Chris sent :
L for LIFE in the fast lane! Of course . This is it.

Stand and Deliver!

Pay up!

Hopefully all this knowledge can be directed somewhat subversively but not too obviously at the B+M casinos. Leave the internet lot alone - that can subsidise our winnings!

Dangerous talk! Walk the talk!

OK we shall see in the days and weeks ahead. Clearly a lot of progress has been made on bet a. - especially this week - and bet d is going well but with a small adjustment to speed up closure of an outstanding debit in reducing a progression balance - refer Martin Blakey and his great work as a mathematician and professional roulette player in Melbourne, Australia.

Update after live casino testing at end of week.

L
X
XVV

[Big EZ]

X

I have been reviewing some of Compas work and it is some pretty powerful stuff.  One of his methods I have tested so far for 10 sessions with a tweak on something and so far 0 losing sessions over the 10 compared to 2 losing with all the original guidelines. It also should be noted that in each session there were draw downs to the bankroll but it ALWAYS recovered (at least so far)I should be finished hand testing the rest of the sessions in a couple of days if the time permits. Thanks for pointing me in this direction. I will report back with my findings and we can get more into detail after we see what the big picture looks like.

Big Ez

[XXVV]

Fab EZ
Really helpful tnx
XXVV