COMMON SENSE BETTING + PROFESSIONAL ROULETTE STUDIES

[Twisteruk]

I bet he is Fuming this Thread has risen like the Phoenix 

[XXVV]

Once again thanks Victor for handling this and re-instating material that was deleted.  Amongst this material is some considerable value- more than some may realise - and we will try to build on that.  Results of any suggestions or methods as proposed by CS will be published and from what I have done so far, at times, they have some merit and are little steps that may add to a larger picture.   They illustrate that at times certain patterns can be taken advantage of - but of course alone they are inconsistent.

What we are trying to find are a series of methods, factors, techniques, triggers, that when put together, ie be engineered, then we can make the results consistent.  Or at least consistent enough to consistently turn a profit using flat staking and a limited bank ( say 20 units).

Looking forward to putting some ideas for the matrix and look at a few options and a possible way forward.

Best
XXVV

[chrisbis]

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Just thort i'd post up this image for any newbies like myself.

Thort it may help others to visualise the whole system and how things move!

It might help if the developers of 'The Matrix 9 Movements'
could use it in some way, maybe as a reference.

I see the whole 9 movements thing as a form of dance, (ie dance steps)
that is played out on a stage (the Green table).

Either that or, its a tune played out on the table, with each of the zones (aa, ac,cc,ca)
becoming a note within the 'Music Of Spins' and as each number is spun, the destination
is a cord which would be one of the 9 zonal areas.

Just my thoughts , and mine alone- I know- I'm bonkers!!  

If need any more drwgs- just yell.

[XXVV]

Great image chrisbis and the lateral idea here of a series of notes, steps that lead to a repeating chord or motif may be very helpful.
There will be recognisable repeating patterns from time to time like bars of music, and some will be memorable tunes maybe.

Can take that analogy further with overlays of rhythms and different instruments, patterns or colours in the music.  Great stuff.

Music to my ears.
XXVV

[chrisbis]

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Horizontal version of the same. thanks XX.  

Tell me in simple terms what your next plan is- need win some money back at casino as lost last night on Bad RNG!!

[XXVV]

When in doubt do nothing!
XXVV

[chrisbis]

@XXVV

Do u use any form of Bot (Robot) in any roulette casino play ?

And y has commonsense1968 gone from member to guest just recently??

Did something happen that i missed??

[VLS]

Did something happen that I missed??

link:://rouletteforum.cc/general-discussion/user-commonsense1969-banned/

[XXVV]

@chrisbis
No.
Ask Victor and Carpanta.
Yes.

I play only live Casino with a Dealer.

I get in and get out as quickly as possible as soon as target win is achieved.
If not playing seriously will be more casual.

Thanks for your clever suggestion for Dance and Music analogy! Seriously that is a great help in visualising and planning.

Cheers
XXVV

[chrisbis]

Eye know!!

I was going to open up a new Topic ( no not the chocolate bar!!)

Called......Chrisbis and his bonkers idea's!!



I have a few new ideas that have not seen on the forum,
but I'll thrash them out in draft form first before emptying my cranium of them.

I am quite interested in the music/dance one.

I imagined being one of the RNG programmers, and had to come up
with a number generator that used something different than an algorithum,
or moving coe=efficient.

I also have watched many spins, in fast mode during Play4Fun
and watched in amazement as the landing marker danced a jig
on the green table. (other colours also available)

[XXVV]

@carpanta

Thanks Carlos for the ideas in your matrix, and as I am new to this Forum I do not really understand but would really appreciate some clarification.  Would you be able to explain the time signature please.

Regarding your message to CS perhaps you could have approached this in a different way such as seeking clarification about his terminology like I am doing with you.

I believe you may have misunderstood his second post as this simply deleted triggers to five numbers which curiously are DOUBLE odds, ie 2x10, etc and curiously these base numbers are grouped in a sixline.  CS did not contradict himself despite some obscure terminology.

I have tested out all the ideas CS put forward and they all can have moments of purpose- and I believe an underlying thread which may have suited his goal.

At the very least the little flat bet exercise is a designed to practice when to take profit ( ie asap) and not progress.  There may have been other purpose behind it though/

Clearly I am putting a postive spin on this, as I am prepared to give the benefit of the doubt.  For those of you who have been through this process before of veiled hints and frustrated leads your patience may have understandably worn thin.

Best Wishes
XXVV

[carpanta]

Hi XXVV,

 I will explain the best I can and only once. on the table there are only 9 true evens which are 2,4,6,8,20,22,24,26,28.  when 1 of these come out bet on all true oe and eo numbers which are 10,12,14,16,18,21,23,25,27,29,30,32,34,36 and that's a 14 unit bet,you bet only once per true even number. do not bet after 2 true even numbers ie 20,4. wait for the next one. i,m giving you this as a fun system probably better and safer than all systems on this site. no doubt all progressors will have a field day with this but its a disciplened fun way to win. all things and that I give in the time i,m on this site can be tweaked using all of my previous post  . the thing that makes thiswork is your self discipline to stop when in a small amount of profit.    ENJOY

When you are on something pretty good to produce a bet selection based on triggers you cant in next post remark as follows:

I forgot to mention out of the true evens you only bet after the double evens which are 20,22,24,26,28 not after 2,4,6,8 this is important your test will show you why

It doesnt sound serious.  It is like saying I'm not sure what im talking about.  So mate, write it down in the note pad section, maybe someone could have made up your mind.

Cheers,
Carlos.

[carpanta]

There are 9 movements

9 8 7
6 5 4
3 2 1

and 3 key times

Key time 1= 1 4 7
Key time 2= 2 5 8
Key time 3= 3 6 9

inside the cube if you play the opposites always you'll have same result:

9+1=10
8+2=10
7+3=10
6+4=10
5+5=10

Then it is reduced to 5 movements
four of them with 8 numbers
one with 4 (5 repeats itself)

Besides you could record EC and speculate with that dominant for whatever EC  so as to reduce the bet to 4 numbers.   If we follow Common Sense suggestion we could even reduce amount of numbers to put into play just working with numbers with one outcome at least, more than one would be a repeat of course. 

A 9 number example:

Numbers                      Matrix for movements
12 25 32                          3  7  8
33  1 34                           9  1  7
27  3  15                          9  3  6

You read proper outcome of numbers from right to left, upside down, the same for the movement matrix. 

For this 9 movements I use numbers so as to have better in mind all 3 key times

so

aa is 1
ab is 2
ac is 3 and so on till cc is 9

Cheers,
Carlos. 

Remember you can have the same key times and 9 movements on the wheel and not only on the green carpet.   But that is a another issue. 

I believe it is clearly explained.  What dont you understand XXVV?
Dont you understand that roulette is a game to speculate with?
Speculate over what is showing, repeating and try to see what is failing to appear for whatever reason chance has decided.
Key times are there to be exploited, trying to figure out what they are doing(dance and music, or whatever anology) and so speculating on them to maintain a secuence and/or a frecuence.
Key times are the forest and EC are the trees.  Try to accomodate the trees in a particular section of the forest.  While doing this you'll see EC's transform into numbers for those sections of the key times you want to put into play.
There is no secure bet but by speculating you might be on the good track to profit the game.

Cheers,
Carlos.

[A3on]

I made the dozens/columns chart as well as the time keys for 3.000 spins

I analyzed then, but couldn't see any connection over then that could be exploit =/

I don't know what I should look for. Can you please provide us some usefull tips Carpanta?

Best regards,
Afonso

[XXVV]

@carpanta

Thanks for your reply and really interesting and thought provoking images/analogies.

Will reflect and speculate theron!

Cheers XXVV