Can anyone make my system lose in 250-500 spins?

[falkor]

This is the precursor to the numbers system I am currently developing:

*Track the ECs (RB/OE/HL) keeping a tally of their total number of appearances.
*When there's a gap of 7 flat bet for 2 steps: 6 then 5 on the EC that is trailing behind (-7) against it's counterpart
*Play all ECs at once no more than 1000 spins.

Note: often after you've finished the 2-step flat-betting the gap of 7 will still remain so you go straight back into the same bet of 6 and 5 until the gap has reduced to 6.

Can anyone make it lose? No fraudulent data please!

EXAMPLE
RRRRRBBRRBRRR
Red = 10
Black = 3

Now bet black 6 then 5 then check if the gap has reduced to -6 (if -6 or -5 then stop and re-track; if still -7 or further out then go straight back into the 2-step bets)

[JimmieB]

Hi Falkor,

For clarification, do mean bet a 6 unit bet, followed by a 5 unit bet, or, 6 bets at 1 unit, then another 5 bets at 1 unit, I'm assuming it's the first scenario, otherwise it would it would simply be 11 bets at 1 unit?

Thanks in advance
Jim

[falkor]

yep - 6 unit bet followed by a 5 unit bet.

[falkor]

We can call this system "7-6-5"! 

[falkor]

Here's the "add-on" for the above system (let me know if you want a copy of the spreadsheet):


1) Every time the ball lands on a different colour record the streak of the previous colour into it's designated column, i.e. how many times it appeared in a row before the streak came to an end. If it appeared 4 times in a row then increment +1 for the that row in the spread sheet.
2) Bet Red or Black if behind by 7 (will light up green at the bottom of the spreadsheet) otherwise don't bet if there's no green at the bottom. This figure of 7 is currently static, but will need to be made dynamic at some point in the future; however, up to 1,000 spins 7 doesn't pose a problem.
3) Once your colour lands stay on that colour for longer than 6,5 depending on which streak/row percentage has lit up green at the top of the spread sheet for that colour, until you lose then re-evaluate (often you'll restart the 6,5 progression if the gap remains). If it's at streak 2 then stick with 6,5. If it's at streak 3 then do 6,5,4, etc. If it's at streak 1 then I'm not yet sure on the best option: either continue with the 5 (after betting 6) or bet on the other colour instead then re-examine the situation.

In the above snapshot we should play black 7 times in a row (or until it loses) 7,6,5,4,3,2,1 (yep - I increased the starting chips for this particular progression; minimum is still 6)

[Kav]

I can not make any sense of your system, let alone make it lose...

You say "flat bet", yet you mean bet 6 units and next 5 units. Flat betting is betting with 1 unit constantly.
Then you say 2-steps, yet in your last post you suggest to bet Black 7 times.
You say to keep track of their total appearances, yet if a number appears 4 times in a row we should only add +1...


I wonder how were you able to program an excel for a system you are not able to describe.

[warrior]

I don't understand anything this guy post.

[nowun]

I don't understand all of Falkor's thinking but this one I do.

[falkor]

I can not make any sense of your system, let alone make it lose...

You say "flat bet", yet you mean bet 6 units and next 5 units. Flat betting is betting with 1 unit constantly.
Then you say 2-steps, yet in your last post you suggest to bet Black 7 times.
You say to keep track of their total appearances, yet if a number appears 4 times in a row we should only add +1...


I wonder how were you able to program an excel for a system you are not able to describe.

Flat-betting doesn't mean 1 unit. Flat betting means betting the same amount over and over again in your gambling. So here we are indeed betting 6 and 5 over and over again (unless you decide to play the add-on).

When I described betting black 7 times, I did make a note of the fact that I had increased the starting chips based on the fact we are using the "add-on" and that we are expecting a sequence of 7.

If you are tracking streaks of 4 then everytime 4 reds appear in a row then you add +1 to the 4 streak tally. In this system we are tracking all levels of streaks.

I don't understand all of Falkor's thinking but this one I do.

I don't think Kav and co. are putting enough effort into reading my descriptions? And I've noticed there's a lot of trolling at this forum and personal attacks with the most common reply being: "all systems lose in the long run"; how helpful is that? 

*modified my mod*

Statement "all systems lose in the long run" has nothing to do with trolling and personal attacks for God's sake!!
Saying such things is not just helpful but also disturbing the right for free opinion expressing !!!

[falkor]

I am going to be testing this extensively over the next few weeks to see how well it can predict streaks - mostly on the colour that's due in - but also on the colour that came in too much and still decided to streak. And believe me: if red/black are behind then they ARE *due in* since they are governed by the law of large numbers, so Gambler's Fallacy is clearly a load of nonsense to distract people from wining money since it's a contradiction to the law of large numbers, Quantum Mechanics and Relativity. You cannot talk about the latter and in the same breath say that past spins do not affect future spins - the world is one big web of deceptions!

[ddarko]

Flat-betting doesn't mean 1 unit. Flat betting means betting the same amount over and over again in your gambling. So here we are indeed betting 6 and 5 over and over again (unless you decide to play the add-on).

6 and 5 are not the same amounts are they ? So your not flat-betting simple as.....

I don't think Kav and co. are putting enough effort into reading my descriptions?

Ever thought that they are, and in fact your descriptions are not that clear ?

And I've noticed there's a lot of trolling at this forum and personal attacks with the most common reply being: "all systems lose in the long run"; how helpful is that? 

How is that a personal attack ? Probably 99.9% of the people here haven't found a system here that doesn't lose in the long run. Your coming across on this forum that you know everything and everyone else is wrong. That will just lead to your threads not getting read & nobody helping you.

[falkor]

You only replying to this topic to start an argument? If you feel threatened by me or perceive me as a know-it-all then that is simply your own inferiority complex. If you don't like me and have nothing constructive to say then please don't reply to my threads simple as...

[Turner]

Falkor
Ddarkos comment are valid. Its clear that many dont understand your posts. Perhaps try to claim less and explain more....then people will understand better. That doesnt mean they will agree.

[ddarko]

You only replying to this topic to start an argument? If you feel threatened by me or perceive me as a know-it-all then that is simply your own inferiority complex. If you don't like me and have nothing constructive to say then please don't reply to my threads simple as...

Actually it's called a conversation not an argument..... Threatened ? LMFAO. Obviously you don't like being questioned but it's ME with the inferiority complex? LMFAO. I will do as you wish though & stay away. Likewise you will do the same in any threads started by me right ? If the thread is not started by you, I will reply if I wish.

[falkor]

That's your opinion, Turner, but I don't agree. From now I'll only respond if somebody actually decides to test the system after actually making some effort to understand it.