Some ideas on table layout betting. (Subject modified)

[falkor]

Thanks!

This is bizarre... I thought that adding more rules would mean less wins in total - BUT THE WINS ARE INCREASING! This is happening through shorter fine-tuned sets.

WHAT'S HAPPENED TO ALL THE LOSING SETS!? I only count 5 losses on this one page alone with 21 wins: 

80% win rate playing 3 DSs without breaking a bank of 500 units? 

[falkor]

This page only shows 4 losing sets.....

[RouletteGhost]

80 percent  win rate is good. What is the strategy lol. I work all day and dont have the time you do.  i wish i did. Hopefully you post how you play

[falkor]

This page only shows 2 losses and 25 wins... WTF!?

That's a 93% win rate!

[falkor]

This page only has ONE SINGLE LOSS with 28 wins! 

[RouletteGhost]

Whats the rules and strategy for this hit rate

[falkor]

The casino isn't ready for this... I will destroy them!!!!

[iggiv]

He was banned by me for a few days for bad behaviour, and Steve decided to ban him for good.

May I ask why Is Worrior banned?

[iggiv]

Azim!
This is not just about creating this thread, and if you want you can discuss those things with Steve. I told you exactly what I told you. I banned him for bad behaviour as personal attacks, calling names and stirring troubles,  and after first short ban coming under newly created different nicks to go on. So i extended his ban to a few more days.

And why Steve decided to ban him permanently you can ask him personally. I don't know why you make such conclusions that he was banned just because creating this thread. This thread (and leading  people on) was just a part of a reason why he was banned.

You are a free man, Azim. If you don't want to participate in the forum you can choose so. But to tell you the truth i am quite surprised why you jump to those conclusions and wanna leave. But it is your choice. You are welcome to stay or you may leave as you desire.
I personally would prefer that you stay.

[Still]

I personally can see what Warrior was looking at.

I never saw it.  Can you articulate what that was? falkor has been doing some research on one of three ways to bet Hermes' 6x6 Double Street system which Warrior was interested in 4.5 years ago.  At the beginning of this thread Warrior pointed to it as a place to begin research, but would not reveal what modifications  made him think that what he now has beats the wheel, citing 10 years of effort to gain it.  It may well turn out that some variation of Hermes' 6x6 Double Street system beats the wheel, but so far, we have falkor to thank for publishing what any of those variations might be, based on statistics, after a LOT of effort. 

[Still]

Steve and Iggiv

I personally respect you 2. However, we all have asked for rules on this. All this thread is really doing is drawing attention it doesn't deserve.

That was true initially.  Since then, the name has been changed and it has been a place where mostly falkor has deposited research.  The research is very interesting.

My recent post even said, I am not going to take credit for something someone else came up with.
However this thread has a few red flags that need to be raised.

It should be noted that the idea being explored here was posited by Hermes (Hermes' 6x6 Double Street) a long time ago, was revisited by Warrior 4.5 years ago and again in this thread.  Somehow it became "Warrior's 222" system or something like that; but without any rules.  Since then, falkor has tested some rules that he came up with himself. 

People have their own way of testing. I can assure you, this system / method as Winkel said will not work no matter what you do.

If there are no rules, as you say, how do you know it won't work? What won't work?

What's happening here is a bunch of number's have been put together and are getting tuned to make the 1million numbers make money. At the end of the day someone is going to get scammed on this.

The concept of curve fitting has already come up and has been addressed.  I am satisfied that the testing is being done sufficiently scientifically given the pace that tests are being conducted.  One can only be scammed if the testing has been completely fraudulent, which i doubt. 

I think I have asked twice and Iggiv has asked for rules.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO RULES POSTED BUT FOLLOW GUT THEORY AND LAW OF THIRD.  THIS THREAD WILL THROW GUT OUT AS ONE OF THE BEST SYSTEMS INVENTED OR FOUND.

in the absence of rules, falkor came up with some, and started testing.  The rules have changed as statistical data has rolled in.  Rules have been posted, reposted, modified, remodified and reposted.   Whatever rules there may be, they are not at the beginning of the thread, and have evolved.  You have to go back a few pages to see the latest set of rules for a BR of <500. 

What I am after is that a  good theory is going to be bashed at the end of the day by 2 individuals who have no idea as to what they are doing.

You mean Steve and iggiv?  First, iggiv is protecting the development of statistics here.  And we were NEVER going to get any rules from Warrior in the first place.  What Warrior suggested were not rules, but a place to start thinking about roulette differently, and what was suggested was not claimed to be the winning formula, which Warrior was reserving to himself.  How to start thinking of roulette differently? Bet on each DS as it shows, and stop betting on it when it shows again. Pocket the repeats.  That's it.  And that's basically what Hermes contributed over 4.5 years ago. Everything beyond that has been contributed by falkor, unless somebody else said something and i missed it. 

[SamNL]

Falkor,

Those pages are looking great!

[RFMAXX]

falkor...is your final system playable in a live casino or does it need extensive tracking?

[RouletteGhost]

I dont understand how someone could spend so much time putting together graphics and in depth posts but at the same time not take a fraction of that time and lay out what he is doing so we can put it together.

[thelaw]

I dont understand how someone could spend so much time putting together graphics and in depth posts but at the same time not take a fraction of that time and lay out what he is doing so we can put it together.

Because this is not a system at all, but simply a way to get attention (see John Legend)

Here is the formula :

1-Post a theory that is just simple enough for readers to understand, but complicated enough to warrant many questions (any regular member could do this in their sleep)

2-Post data "backing up the theory"

3-Refuse to answer questions - implying that you have spent too much time to give out such valuable info for free, or that members are not asking intelligence questions (or just ignore them)

4-At each and every opportunity, post that you are "so close to a HG" or "just found out a new angle" or "just went beyond the established bankroll" etc (carrot on a stick routine)

-Repeat #2-3-4 (for 40+ pages if necessary)


This type of con-artistry will continue to ruin the boards until a moderator steps in to create rules prohibiting such behavior.