Kimo Li

[marvin]

hi,

if you have the book, you will notice that there are more than a dozen strategies/pattern there. and every pattern/strategy has its own trigger. when you take first 3 spins the 3rd spin may be a trigger to a strategy/pattern. the fourth may also signal for another strategy and so is the fifth and so on and so forth thats why kimo says that every number is a star.

[1eleven]

Hi Marvin,
How do you implement that in a session? If every number is a trigger then wouldn't you be changing bet selection every spin? Could you share a sample session?

[Bassie the Clown]

I'm stuck on figuring out "every number is a star number."  This seems like such an obvious statement but I'm not sure how that's the 'key'

And this gem, "In any case, the HG of roulette strategy lies in the ability to execute a strategy using a trigger. Every number on the roulette wheel is a trigger to a specific set of numbers. The million dollar question is what are these sets of numbers. Sorry, I cannot say. But can say this, every number is a star number."

I've heard a "confused mind says no."  There sure is a lot of confusion.  That's a trend that will continue.

Hi 1eleven,
Every number is a star number, like every number is a pie number. The key is 3 , within X number of spins. Then you start to bet for a limited amount of spins. Basically the Kimo Li method anticipates in betting hot pies & stars, or hot bowties etc etc. It's a kind of strategy that can be adapted on splits, lines, Streets or even your own creation of numbers, Streets etc..  Play hot (on 3) or don't. Bet on whatever wich opportunity shows up, it's like trading the stock- and forexmarket (except the hedging part) . You go with the flow, once your target is reached you have to find another opportunity. And just like trading the markets, or playing other different types of betselections, losses will occur. Identifying a trend is rather easy, but you never can tell how long this trend will last.

[1eleven]

Hi 1eleven,
Every number is a star number, like every number is a pie number. The key is 3 , within X number of spins. Then you start to bet for a limited amount of spins. Basically the Kimo Li method anticipates in betting hot pies & stars, or hot bowties etc etc. It's a kind of strategy that can be adapted on splits, lines, Streets or even your own creation of numbers, Streets etc..  Play hot (on 3) or don't. Bet on whatever wich opportunity shows up, it's like trading the stock- and forexmarket (except the hedging part) . You go with the flow, once your target is reached you have to find another opportunity. And just like trading the markets, or playing other different types of betselections, losses will occur. Identifying a trend is rather easy, but you never can tell how long this trend will last.

Thank you. What do you mean by "the key is 3"?

[marvin]

Hi Marvin,
How do you implement that in a session? If every number is a trigger then wouldn't you be changing bet selection every spin? Could you share a sample session?

practice, i was able to implement it by constant practice . believe it or not i spent around 3-4hrs everynight looking it. just keep staring at it for sure a you will have a light bulb moment 

[thelaw]

Here we go again.........

someone claims to have a working system, but will not share it.

"YOU HAVE TO EARN IT"...........they say.

I call bullshit until someone proves a working system.

"Hey, the emperor has a new system....just look closely and you'll see it".............This is getting ridiculous!   

[marvin]

Here we go again.........

someone claims to have a working system, but will not share it.

"YOU HAVE TO EARN IT"...........they say.

I call bullshit until someone proves a working system.

"Hey, the emperor has a new system....just look closely and you'll see it".............This is getting ridiculous!   

the food is already being served , its in the table. all you have to do grab it and eat it or u wanted to be spoon feed? or probably u wanted someone to chew it for u. 

[1eleven]

From p.10 of the Roulette Formula:
"There are two schools of thought when it comes to wagering.  The first invokes the player to bet on sections that have been coming in.  The second entails waiting for the right time to bet on sections that have not yet come in and are believed to be due.  Without the complete knowledge of the Global Pie Method, these types of strategies rely on luck.  The mind-set for this type of approach should be recreational at best."

Yet, the consensus here seems to be 'follow the trend'

[thelaw]

the food is already being served , its in the table. all you have to do grab it and eat it or u wanted to be spoon feed? or probably u wanted someone to chew it for u. 

Here is the major problem with Kimo's work. Not one person yet has been able to prove that this system works, which would be very easy to do (we've seen it tried many times on the forum).

1) Someone chooses Spielbank day/table and gives out a set amount of numbers.

2) Then the system is played out publicly for everyone to see post by post.

3) After a certain number of spins (say 300-400), the Spielbank day/table is revealed and can be verified by all parties.

This would not necessarily give away the actual system, while proving that it works. Everybody wins.

Why haven't we seen this?  Because the claims are BULLSHIT!!!

This is roulette, not a martial art. This is about money..........pure and simple, but there are too many people who are just seeking attention.

Let me give you an example of what I mean:

Not too long ago, a new forum called Roulette30 opened up with excellent discussions on strategy, bet selection, and theory including a system called the Kavouras bet (discussed here before) promoted by the moderator of the forum himself aptly named: Kav.

Along comes a member named Reyth. Now Reyth gets right to work posting page after page of trials and errors using the Kav bet, to the point that he starts posting graphics with sayings like "It's all over but the Kaching baby!!!"  and "10 days to real money" -obviously convinced that he has a winner on his hands.

Then Kav announces that he will be selling a premium version of the system for a few hundred bucks while making zero claims about its effectiveness. And would you believe  that a day after the system goes on sale, Reyth stops posting about his progress, and instead begins posting all type of other systems (literally dozens) throughout the forum. Reyth, who has now been posting daily for nearly 6 weeks, just stops at the same time this "premium system" goes on sale.

Now if you read Reyth's posts, you would have seen this coming a mile-away. They looked just like Falkor's. Just another troll seeking attention.

So the question is, how is this any different than Kimo's work? Neither party is presenting proof, and at least Reyth provided win/loss figures (although the first red flag was when they disappeared from his posts when things went south).

Ignatus has it right. He presents his systems in the full light of day with a test and charts to match; win or lose.

This is not a system; it's a hustle until proven otherwise!

[iggiv]

Kimo Li has never said that his stuff is gonna work for everyone. He said it works for him and for some people which are getting gut feeling of what he is doing. He even said if i am not wrong that the majority won't probably get good results. So...It is to up to anyone to try his stuff, but there never has been a firm guarantee there. But I know some people wh0 said he did help them win in roulette.

We are not in court here to demand proof and get a firm verdict. Kimo himself has been pretty tired of all this discussion for years i guess. Now with all this stuff coming up over and over again looks like he lost any desire to give some more info many people would like to get. 
What useful all this "court" approach did? Nothing. Just killed all the real roulette discussion with him.

[marvin]

thelaw,

when i saw that you mentioned 300-400 spins. by then i knew that this strategy is not for you. heck! i don't even reach 100 spins. no point in discussing this kind of stuff if we are looking at different direction. 

and by the say this is not a system, its a strategy, a reading the pattern and ball movement.

[TwoCatSam]

Kimo Li has never said that his stuff is gonna work for everyone.

Guys


The above statement means the method is subjective.  That which is subjective cannot be put to an objective test.  If there is no objective test possible, there can be no proof.  Therein lies the safety of such claims as we see here weekly.

thelaw

As you can see, you have been eliminated because you spun 300 or 400 times.  marvin does not spin even 100.  Let me promise and guarantee you, when someone loses it is always something they do wrong.  I would not be surprised to read:  "Well, you played on Tuesday, you dipstick!  No one can win on Tuesday!."

Please understand, I'm not speaking exclusively of Kimo Li.  There have been probably hundreds just like him.  Only they and a few close associates--who remain in hiding--can win.  Should one reveal himself, he will reject the idea of being tested.

iggiv

Court, you say?  All thelaw and I and others have asked for years is to do a double-blind study and show us what you can do when people are watching.  They won't do it because they can't. 

Lastly, if there is no system, if it is all subjective, then there is nothing to teach.  How would you teach a person to have a gut feeling?  (Apologies to winkle!)

Sam

[ddarko]

Yet again, Sammy & TheLaw throw down the truth in a thread......

Kudos to you both 

[marvin]

sam,

on an average of 3 minute per spin, 100 spins is 5hrs of play. how much 300-400 spins 15-20hrs? and there are even others testing it for a million spins.

you, thelaw and others did for these years are expecting a single catch all mechanical system to "solve" roulette wherein its not.
kmo li materials is a map, that shows you the location of a hidden treasure. getting there will depend  on your skill, on how your going to strategize as there are lots of traps along the way, its up to you how you are going to use it to your advantage.

at the end of the day, this is subjective. its not for you, not for thelaw and not for everybody.

attached is my play 2-3 weeks ago

[thelaw]

thelaw,

when i saw that you mentioned 300-400 spins. by then i knew that this strategy is not for you. heck! i don't even reach 100 spins. no point in discussing this kind of stuff if we are looking at different direction. 

and by the say this is not a system, its a strategy, a reading the pattern and ball movement.

I mentioned 300-400 spins because if I said less, then you would have said too few trials, had I said more, you would have said impractical.

So now it's "not for me" apparently. Yet another misdirection for a bogus system.

Feel free to let us know when you have something that is not simply smoke and mirrors.