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Holy Grail by Winkel open for discussion.

Started by Azim, Jul 04, 10:51 PM 2015

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falkor2k15

Quote from: Denis Paris on Mar 14, 10:57 AM 2017
Here is my GUT strategy question and I apologyse if it is written somewhere but when the GUT threads are 8 years old it is close to impossible to read all especially with the relevant posts from Winkeld being ereased;

Just talking of unhit numbers and hit numbers to simplify.
I dont get the rational of betting at a crossing of imaginary lines like 19 hits and 18 unhit. Crossing will happen but not quicker than any decrease of unhit and increase of hit that will also happen until they reach this crossing line. How the chance of getting a new hit number and win in 1 bet at exactly a crossing like 19-18 is higher that getting a new hit number at for exemple 12 hit - 25 unhit, I would rather say that it is more probable to have new hit at 12-25 than at 19-18, except that we cannot call it a crossing, but the idea is to have a new hit and win units, no? (Ok, We do get more net units at 19-18 than at 12-25, true)

Also watchinh to 2catsam youtube video, he is using a tracking software, he is betting at 2-2 on the hit twice and hit three times. It probably took multiple spins to have 2 of the twice hit to reach 3 times hit, why suddenly bet on that last 2 hit twice assuming one of them will be hit three times, again I dont see a high probability nor do I get the rational behing this (ok I can bet 18 times on this one if I wish but unless the roulette is biased which would explain why these 2 numbers are being hit multiple times, I could bet 18 times on 2 others numbers)

I am telling myself I must miss something as GUT is here since 8 years,so there is something good behing.

Thanks for any valuable answer,
I think it has more to do with checkpoints and deciding whether to stay on a particular permutation. The crossings themselves don't appear to have a Non-Random defined limit - but the window doesn't appear to be limitless either - so I think there's some predictability based on which crossings come and when for which type of permutation. However, it remains to be tested properly. Personally, I think is too complicated and restricted to straights - sometimes having to place 18 chips down on different numbers. I would concentrate on Priyanka's random thoughts: aim to parachute your way from outer sections to inside, arriving at straights when only a few key numbers remain with the intention of closing the number cycle around position 1 if possible. Once the cycle is complete then the next cycle is dependent on the last.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

RouletteGhost

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Mar 14, 06:22 AM 2017
Do yourself a favour and buy the ebook!

If the brook hasn't made you rich at roulette don't promote it

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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falkor2k15

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 14, 12:34 PM 2017
If the brook hasn't made you rich at roulette don't promote it
I haven't had time to test it... but some interesting ideas... better than all the other crap that gets posted here on a weekly, if not daily, basis.... even if they all fail in the end. Of course only Random Thoughts works for sure - but nobody else has taken it up...  ???
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

Parisd

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Mar 14, 11:52 AM 2017
I think it has more to do with checkpoints and deciding whether to stay on a particular permutation. The crossings themselves don't appear to have a Non-Random defined limit - but the window doesn't appear to be limitless either - so I think there's some predictability based on which crossings come and when for which type of permutation. However, it remains to be tested properly. Personally, I think is too complicated and restricted to straights - sometimes having to place 18 chips down on different numbers. I would concentrate on Priyanka's random thoughts: aim to parachute your way from outer sections to inside, arriving at straights when only a few key numbers remain with the intention of closing the number cycle around position 1 if possible. Once the cycle is complete then the next cycle is dependent on the last.
Falcom, I suppose there must be a thread related to these Priyanka random thoughts, did not find it using the search tool ?

thelaw

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Mar 14, 12:40 PM 2017
I haven't had time to test it... but some interesting ideas... better than all the other crap that gets posted here on a weekly, if not daily, basis.... even if they all fail in the end. Of course only Random Thoughts works for sure - but nobody else has taken it up...  ???
A:.......don't worry Falkor........not all your ideas are crap.

Say it with me buddy:

You sir.......are a monster!!!

Blue_Angel

Quote from: thelaw on Mar 14, 02:03 PM 2017
A:.......don't worry Falkor........not all your ideas are crap.

Say it with me buddy:



Mr theLaw, could you describe in a few words the ideal method, the one we usually call HG.
Falkor's genius is so subtle nobody would ever realize!

RouletteGhost

The nail is in the coffin

Falkor is trolling everyone

Read his threads and explanations

The cat came out the bag when he claimed notto never explained KTF.

GF might be corrupt but at least the ignore member feature works
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

thelaw

Quote from: Blue_Angel on Mar 14, 02:21 PM 2017
Mr theLaw, could you describe in a few words the ideal method, the one we usually call HG.
Falkor's genius is so subtle nobody would ever realize!

I sincerely don't know what you're talking about here as the language is too vague. The "ideal method"???????"we"?????"usually call the HG" :question:

Yes.......Falkor is known for his subtlety. :lol:

You sir.......are a monster!!!

Blue_Angel

Quote from: thelaw on Mar 14, 03:17 PM 2017
I sincerely don't know what you're talking about here as the language is too vague. The "ideal method"???????"we"?????"usually call the HG" :question:

Yes.......Falkor is known for his subtlety. :lol:



You might need me to refresh your memory, probably you don't remember when you told me that:
''HG for me is to make one winning bet per 100 spins approximately''.
Strange, I wonder if you knew that such thing exists...!
You might deny what I said but regardless what you say on the public, you cannot fool me!

RouletteGhost

Quote from: thelaw on Mar 14, 03:17 PM 2017
I sincerely don't know what you're talking about here as the language is too vague. The "ideal method"???????"we"?????"usually call the HG" :question:

Yes.......Falkor is known for his subtlety. :lol:



the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Steve

Rg the ignore member feature does work.  Its in your settings called ignore list.
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thelaw

Quote from: Blue_Angel on Mar 14, 03:29 PM 2017
You might need me to refresh your memory, probably you don't remember when you told me that:
''HG for me is to make one winning bet per 100 spins approximately''.
Strange, I wonder if you knew that such thing exists...!
You might deny what I said but regardless what you say on the public, you cannot fool me!

With all due respect BA, there must be a language barrier here......because what you posted above doesn't make any sense.

Not sure my exact phrasing.......but it was in reference to a general conservative approach to a long-term strategy, but not to any specific method mentioned on this thread or elsewhere.

I was only denying your statement about Falkor, as any subtlety in his posts is overshadowed by his incessant trolling. :yawn:

Reminds me of the first scam in the film "the Grifters". John Cusack finds a con-man, and asks him to teach him the trade. The con-man says "ok.....give me $20". Cusack gives the man $20, to which the man replays "come tomorrow.........and I'll take you again." What starts with a lie.......and ends with the truth? :ooh:

You sir.......are a monster!!!

Parisd

I asked a GUT question on a thread that was sleeping since 1 month then bang, everybody talk on all and nothing but GUT !

Parisd

Apart of an answer from Falcor that I did not quite anderstand, my question remains open

As simplification I refer only to unhit and hit
What is the rational behing betting exactly at imaginary lines crossing, there is nothing proving that the chance of winning is better at that precise moment (19-18) to hit a previously unhit and anytime before. After 8 years someone here should have the answer.

2carsam maybe or directly Winkel if any of you read this??

Thanks

winkel

Quote from: Denis Paris on Mar 15, 08:07 AM 2017
Apart of an answer from Falcor that I did not quite anderstand, my question remains open

As simplification I refer only to unhit and hit
What is the rational behing betting exactly at imaginary lines crossing, there is nothing proving that the chance of winning is better at that precise moment (19-18) to hit a previously unhit and anytime before. After 8 years someone here should have the answer.

2carsam maybe or directly Winkel if any of you read this??

Thanks

everybody is looking for a reason to bet. And this bet is meant to win. But why?

If you bet any sleepers you will win by chance or lose due to the odds.

As the numbers drop in they form that lines in the graphs. And one thing is for sure. They will have to cross!
so at the point of 19vs18 we can predict, that the lines will cross, sooner or later. And that is the reason that we start to bet.

If you bet any numbers at any point there is no such reason that they should appear.

There is always a game

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