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Embrace The Edge

Started by denzie, Sep 03, 02:12 PM 2015

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denzie

Uhm...maybe i sound boring but...another +10 in 25minutes.
Highest level/% so far was 2u bets
As spins roll off our predictions get better

ego

Quote from: denzie on Sep 03, 02:12 PM 2015
First...im really sorry!  Lol! Yes this is about the stuff P.A. posted.
Uhm...if you already are raising your eyebrows pls not read any further.
If your P.A. pls not respond with the same story over and over again.

However he did made me think  :wink:

As im playing my stuff on a daily basis (500-1000spins) i couldn't stop thinking about his thread.
So i started to embrace the edge and i came out in profit without a sweat.  Maybe we can team up to find the best way to play this..

I just used red and black. ..if one is behind 1-3% i started betting it....surprise surprise. ....i got in profit very fast.

Few questions : how much is the maximum % u saw red/black behind? (Most casino's provide that info).

And you guys would look the % or track 100 spins out of 111 and then go in ?

Would you keep it flat or use a mild progression?

Maybe i was just lucky , maybe P.A. needs attention or is a scammer. But just maybe he's right. 

Again leave the negativity behind and the same story over and over too. Anyone wanna help ?

Denzie

You are lucky - you will see 3.0 SD and above - for example 14 reds and 2 blacks.
I play that way with a 30 step progression and it does not hold up
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

denzie

Can you explain it is what you do?

Im going in if a ec is behind. So technically if i keep betting it flat till my eyes get sleepy....should i not get back ? ? ? ? ?
I play 1u for 1% starting from 46%... i saw 44% today and then i shoot up like a rocket. (Rng fast spins )
As spins roll off our predictions get better

ozon


Some time ago . When I read in another forum post Ego of Holloway progression, I started to use it after 10  same EC bets play in the gap of 10 spins, this is a rare event, yet progression very quickly landed on the point of no return,, with very deep drowdawn. Played in BV No zero RNG, and I saw strings  of numbers coming under 5SD very quickly
I do not know if there is some sort of progression which can withstand the variations in the RNG. Even with big SD ,roulette play against us.

denzie

If we play a "no 0 wheel" ....and we got all the time in the world....shouldn't we get back even or ahead at some point with FLATBETS ?
As spins roll off our predictions get better

denzie

So i got my +30 today (which is the same as 2 levels ...10x 1u and 10x 2u)...
Been playing 2 days now and i didn't got past level 2.
So if we can aim for +30 each session. .....
Isn't that good enough to win on the long run ?
After a bust i would stop. So we got the laws of probability,  mm , and well no scary progression that soon or late can take back all we won cuz our br is crached.....

Thoughts?
As spins roll off our predictions get better

GLC

Quote from: denzie on Sep 06, 08:52 AM 2015
So i got my +30 today (which is the same as 2 levels ...10x 1u and 10x 2u)...
Been playing 2 days now and i didn't got past level 2.
So if we can aim for +30 each session. .....
Isn't that good enough to win on the long run ?
After a bust i would stop. So we got the laws of probability,  mm , and well no scary progression that soon or late can take back all we won cuz our br is crached.....

Thoughts?

Here's my thought.  Don't play with money you can't afford to lose.  Set a realistic stop loss and honor it no matter what.  And have fun. 

Continue to keep us posted.  You'll eventually draw a crowd or you'll hit the wall.  But if you hit the wall, you'll have learned a lot and so will we.

It's all good! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

GLC

In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

ego


You play in the short term not the long term, so you might be lucky.
But not with this method.

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

denzie

It looked to good to be true....I'll keep going till I'll hit the wall.
But if i flatbet the ec that is behind...should i not catch up at some point ?????
As spins roll off our predictions get better

GLC

Quote from: denzie on Sep 06, 04:30 PM 2015
It looked to good to be true....I'll keep going till I'll hit the wall.
But if i flatbet the ec that is behind...should i not catch up at some point ?????

Most of the time, you will catch up and leave a happy man.  It's that time when you don't catch back up because the deviation was too great or the deviation stretched out over thousands of spins.  The catch up is over big numbers.  Over few numbers all hell can break loose.

Here's a thought.  The same series of spins that took you to your lowest point so far can happen back to back and then what.  There's nothing to say that random can't throw multiple series of bad runs at you. 

Even with a 50/50 bet, you need a huge bankroll to guarantee against ruin.  I've mentioned this before but when I was playing blackjack using the Revere advanced point count strategy, my records showed that I had a 1.5% advantage overall.  I friend who was a mathematician calculated that I needed a 2,000 unit bankroll to have a 99% chance to continue playing without losing everything on a really bad down turn.  I managed to survive but with the changes in the method of shuffling and using multiple decks and outright badgering by the casinos, it just got too hard to keep fighting the casinos.

If you like playing this system, just set your parameters and stick to them and see what happens.  I guarantee that it's no worse than any of the other systems on the forums.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

denzie

I'll give it a try...and go only 2 levels in the progession  (30u).
If i can make 15-30u in  1 session then it could work. Will see. Coz each system loses sometime .... the question is if i have more winning sessions then losing sessions. ... Never try , never know.

And about catching up flat.... if we use the rng fast spins (1spin/2second) then we should get out the hole in a few hours. But it would take patience . And a big br to ectual make good money. But hey...if it works then I've got the time though  :xd:

Thx for the advice GLC
As spins roll off our predictions get better

P.A

Ego is right,

Sooner or later.
u will see only 1 or 2, or 3 win in 20 spins .

That why we need a very stable bet selection,
and variance avoidance management, too.

The million dollar question...
Do u have a stable bet selection,
and
what to do when variance HIT???

denzie

Quote from: P.A on Sep 06, 10:58 PM 2015
Ego is right,

Sooner or later.
u will see only 1 or 2, or 3 win in 20 spins .

Of course. ...everybody knows that.
But i use a very mild progression.  If i can win my br back in 1 or 2 sessions then it's ok for me. I not need to win each session. ....if at the end of the week im in profit then it's just fine by me.
But i will see what happens. ...im playing 1â,¬ bets so it will not kill me.
And im playing long enough to see how the % swing.
Don't worry. ... ;)
As spins roll off our predictions get better

denzie

Quote from: P.A on Sep 06, 10:58 PM 2015
Ego is right,

Sooner or later.
u will see only 1 or 2, or 3 win in 20 spins .

That why we need a very stable bet selection,
and variance avoidance management, too.

The million dollar question...
Do u have a stable bet selection,
and
what to do when variance HIT???

Yes, i have now. As the red/blacks already performed very good. I just made it more stable.

What do about variance  (our personal losingstreak)... i ain't playing yet. But happy to see he finally arrived. Now it's time to carefully go in...
As spins roll off our predictions get better

denzie

So far.....very good.
Boring ....yep
Highly effective ....yep
Hit the wall....not yet
Live...nope
Fast RNG...yep
What goes down does come up again...always
As spins roll off our predictions get better

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