american wheel. quads

[RouletteGhost]

Am starting out at 6 per.

Ken

6 per quad. Win
7 per quad. Win
8 per quad. Lose
6 per quad. Lose
4 per quad. Win
5 per quad

Like this?

[tuddilue]

Look at the wheel layout and just place the bets on the same position on euro. Maybe we can play it as splits. Ill check after work to

This was not easy but a really funny task! I have tried to show it in text but it does not work so I took a screen shot instead. I can of course add the excel if you want this instead.

I have done 3 layouts:
American -> original quad bet on american layout
Europeen -> original quad bet on europeen layout
Europeen modified -> the quad I have modified for the europeen layout

The only thing that is left is 2 numbers that is beside each others: 19,4 and 7,28. So how to fix those two I do not know. Someone who has some tips? Otherwise the new modified version is allot better than the old one on a europeen layout...

My quad bet is this (the x marks the quad to bet):
1,2,3,4
2,3,5,6 x
7,8,10,11
8,11,9,12 x
13,14,16,17
14,15,17,18 x
19,20,22,23
20,21,23,24 x
25,26,28,29
26,27,29,30 x
31,32,34,35
32,33,35,36 x

I have not yet tested this...

[RouletteGhost]

This was not easy but a really funny task! I have tried to show it in text but it does not work so I took a screen shot instead. I can of course add the excel if you want this instead.

I have done 3 layouts:
American -> original quad bet on american layout
Europeen -> original quad bet on europeen layout
Europeen modified -> the quad I have modified for the europeen layout

The only thing that is left is 2 numbers that is beside each others: 19,4 and 7,28. So how to fix those two I do not know. Someone who has some tips? Otherwise the new modified version is allot better than the old one on a europeen layout...

My quad bet is this (the x marks the quad to bet):
1,2,3,4
2,3,5,6 x
7,8,10,11
8,11,9,12 x
13,14,16,17
14,15,17,18 x
19,20,22,23
20,21,23,24 x
25,26,28,29
26,27,29,30 x
31,32,34,35
32,33,35,36 x

I have not yet tested this...

Euro modified meaning you overlayed the wheel bets from american to euro so its essentially the same bet?

[tuddilue]

Euro modified meaning you overlayed the wheel bets from american to euro so its essentially the same bet?

Yes that is correct. I have changed the quads to better fit the europeen wheel.
But I have not succeeded yet. I have reduced 2 threes and 2 twos to only 2 twos.
On the american wheel you do not have any twos so that is the thing that is left.
How do you fix the last twos?  (19,4 and 7,28)

[RouletteGhost]

Look at the american wheel and mark off the american quad bets

Now look at the euro wheel and mark off the exact same bet locations

You wont be able to place that bet using quads only like on american

[tuddilue]

Look at the american wheel and mark off the american quad bets

Now look at the euro wheel and mark off the exact same bet locations

You wont be able to place that bet using quads only like on american

Ok but the coverage was really close. I mean the only thing that is left is those 4 numbers or 2 groups if you call them that.

The coverage on the wheel is really similar. Not the same numbers but the coverage of the wheel. My goal was to not have any groups exactly as you have on the american wheel. I reduced 2 big groups of threes. Now the only thing that is left is 2 groups of 2 numbers each. But is that impossible with quads, then I will leave it...

[leesnose]

I am reposting the analysis that I have done of this selection.  I put it in another thread but probably better here:

Okay, here are figures using the selection from your american quads.  Again, these figures were run as if it were a continuous session & with no triggering criteria.

I have included the figures for numbers 1-26 for comparison.  Also I may have included too much information.

15000 spins of an american wheel

RG's AQ - Max run: 22  Max sleep: 6
Numbers 1-26 - Max run: 23  Max sleep: 9

Occurrences of sleeps over a certain length:

RG's AQ
>2: 321
>3: 106
>4: 20
>5: 5
>6: 0


Numbers 1-26
>2: 342
>3: 111
>4: 32
>5: 7
>6: 1
>7: 1
>8: 1

Could do with another, larger sample really but these numbers look pretty positive to me.

[RouletteGhost]

Ok but the coverage was really close. I mean the only thing that is left is those 4 numbers or 2 groups if you call them that.

The coverage on the wheel is really similar. Not the same numbers but the coverage of the wheel. My goal was to not have any groups exactly as you have on the american wheel. I reduced 2 big groups of threes. Now the only thing that is left is 2 groups of 2 numbers each. But is that impossible with quads, then I will leave it...

Ok good thats what i meant. To make this system for euro youd have to bet the same spots on the wheel and have same wheel coverage. Not the same numbers. But we all know that lol

[RouletteGhost]

Leesnoos. Max aleep 6 on 15000 spins. Ill take it. Thanks

P.s. leesnoose used real live wheel zumma numbers

Lees u counted 00 as a win right. In zumma it is 37. Thanks

[leesnose]

Yes, 0 & 37 both taken as wins.

[RouletteGhost]

Thanks for the test it is very good

[MrJ]

6 per quad. Win
7 per quad. Win
8 per quad. Lose
6 per quad. Lose
4 per quad. Win
5 per quad

Like this?

Yes.

[RouletteGhost]

Based on leesnoos results and what we have all been seeing :

Wait for 2 sleeps then bet prog 1 3 9

Pretty darn close to a holy grail

[RouletteGhost]

cant thank you enough leesnoos for that information

i still have not seen more than 3.

RG's AQ
>2: 321
>3: 106
>4: 20
>5: 5
>6: 0

^^in 15,000 zumma spins 5 sleeps max? holy grailish to me

hey silverthorne, i know you are reading this because its at the top of the board, so if you sell this give me kick backs 

[onetaste]

So wait for 2 Virtual L's then bet prog 1,3,9 once..stop on win and then wait for another 2 virtual L's?