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american wheel. quads

Started by RouletteGhost, Sep 30, 06:13 PM 2015

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denzie

That 2 br progression scares me. Brrr

If it recovers flat. Then keep it flat.
No need to rush. PATIENCE.

It's a 24nr bet. As in doz there could be trigger...for example bet after 2L or 3L
RG said the 1 and 2 l's bit frequently.  3l not so much. Why not use a trigger and put the foolproof on it?

Just a thought as I still didn't test it. Just made me think about my 4in a row doz stuff that 2cat tested. I could be totally wrong. In that case....what huh who said that.

Or if Hermes is right...leveller
As spins roll off our predictions get better

martin

RG, definitely agree. Progression can mean faster profit, but also faster drop or even death. Even in prog. +1, -2, when we catch the chopping WL for a while, then we slowly drop down, slowly, but surely.
Regarding profit: 10% of BR is fully enough for me. And we can reckon that those 10% is lighter achievable with waiting approach and appropriate betted unit. Rather wait for the safer step than struggling and worrying every spin.

MrJ

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 13, 02:59 PM 2015
So +1 on a win. On a loss -1 on next loss -2 on next loss -1?

Yes. It works out to actually be -1.5 on a loss.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

RouletteGhost

Practice test: fun money
Celtic live wheel

$5 units. Lost $300 flat bet

Max consecutive loss was 3, still

Conclusion: progression needed

Mild please

However on every test 1 3 9 is successful after 1 virtual loss

Its a 24 number bet BUT with this hit rate we can create a good progression. Max consecutive loss real world at 4 as per other members so i will test mr js +1 -2 next

The question is this: on a 2 dozen bet selection guaranteed to hit within 5 spins what would YOU DO?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

MrJ

"so i will test mr js +1 -2 next" >>> Dont forget (if interested) alternate on the losses. -1, -2 etc.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

RouletteGhost

Will do

With max loss average being 3 its amazing how tough 24 numbers can be.

Im too scared of 1 3 9 27

Id be happy with a progression where you only win at 1st unit level where the rest you break even. Such as:
1, 2, 6, 18
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

denzie

1-2-4-8 stay at 8 till profit.
Once 8 lost (4in a row wait vwin first)
As spins roll off our predictions get better

martin

Still playing & teasing it (live dealer, fun m.) and any progression is not working well, resp. I have very bad feeling.
One and only thing that works FOR ME is waiting for virtual loss. Then get in. Yes, we can wait 10 spins, 20, maybe 50, but it is more secure and more advantageous than betting every spin. So waiting is needed. More powerful IMO.

RouletteGhost

Martin counting 0/00 as a win what is most losses in a row you have seen

And u wait for 1 virtual loss then dive in?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

onetaste

After the virtual loss,how many spins do you play?..flat betting?

martin

No betting on 0 (for now) and I wait for 3 v. loss, than 1-3-9, resp. 4 - 12 - 36 because Dublinbet wheel allows only 40u max bet on quad. So I need min. 9 wins for my target 10% of BR 1000u.
I saw max. 5 loses in a row for now (because of that I wait 3 v. loses).

RouletteGhost

Quote from: martin on Oct 15, 05:34 PM 2015
No betting for 0 (for now) and I wait for 3 v. loss, than 1-3-9, resp. 4 - 12 - 36 because Dublinbet wheel allows only 40u max bet on quad. So I need min. 9 wins for my target 10% of BR 1000u.
I saw max. 5 loses in a row for now (because of that I wait 3 v. loses).

3 virtual losses happen few and far between so you have patience! Thats good. And you will not lose playng this then
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

martin

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 15, 05:35 PM 2015
3 virtual losses happen few and far between so you have patience! Thats good. And you will not lose playng this then

Yesterday I played for one hour cca and saw 5 loses in a row two times and 3 loses min. ten times. That's for one hour only.
I think without any doubt that 6 or even more loses will come one day. This way is not much secure, because I suppose that 6th spin will win. Big mistake, but it is fun mode for now. I think it is not ready for real money play.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: martin on Oct 15, 05:48 PM 2015
Yesterday I played for one hour cca and saw 5 loses in a row two times and 3 loses min. ten times. That's for one hour only.
I think without any doubt that 6 or even more loses will come one day. This way is not much secure, because I suppose that 6th spin will win. Big mistake, but it is fun mode for now. I think it is not ready for real money play.

Not ready for real money play i will disagree on since 15 thousand spin zumma had 5 max. Better then a 2 dozen bet
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

martin

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 15, 05:50 PM 2015
Not ready for real money play i will disagree on since 15 thousand spin zumma had 5 max. Better then a 2 dozen bet

This different feeling is maybe caused by american vs. european wheel, which I play (incorrect).
Simply it is very very thin ice to rely on one and only spin... and then? Huge loss. (this is meant with 1-3-9 prog.)

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