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Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

Started by onetaste, Nov 02, 10:29 AM 2015

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celescliff

Quote from: mogul397 on Jan 13, 12:02 PM 2016
How about we stick to roulette here. I have no interest in BJ.

Anyway, it looks to me like there is no definitive "method" going on except to guess
at your picks and make 1,3,9 progression bets.

No, you don't guess your picks.

The original "method" is to bet against 123. The other tweaks are to bet against other unique patterns, such as 213, 321, 231 etc.

Other progressions besides 1,3,9 have been presented aswell.

Tamino

Betting dozens on a 0/00 wheel in any form or manner does not require too much brain power even  with  half the brain tied behind ones back.


Experience my dear Watson.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: celescliff on Jan 13, 12:14 PM 2016
No, you don't guess your picks.

The original "method" is to bet against 123. The other tweaks are to bet against other unique patterns, such as 213, 321, 231 etc.

Other progressions besides 1,3,9 have been presented aswell.

:thumbsup:
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

Even with a .5% HE progression fails in BJ

At least roulette has many variables so you can bet against rarer patterns

8)
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Celticknits

Here's a MM idea I have been playing with that seems to work every time for this betting method.

1.) Wait until the 1 2 3 sequence, or a variant, shows up

2.) Use a straight Marty on only ONE of the Dozens ... I was usually selecting the last dozen to show up in the sequence
Keep betting that same dozen with the Marty progression until you win.
Don't forget the 0/00 IB once your bet gets high enough to warrant it

If the 1st bet is low (say $1) you can run with this same Dozen for 7 times before you get into serious money and remember this is single dozen is paying 2:1

I have not yet seen a loss with this.......Yet

So far this has been my HG and I have to say I was never using the Marty before because of the table limits.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

Celticknits

Quote from: Celticknits on Jan 13, 11:53 PM 2016
Here's a MM idea I have been playing with that seems to work every time for this betting method.

1.) Wait until the 1 2 3 sequence, or a variant, shows up

2.) Use a straight Marty on only ONE of the Dozens ... I was usually selecting the last dozen to show up in the sequence
Keep betting that same dozen with the Marty progression until you win.
Don't forget the 0/00 IB once your bet gets high enough to warrant it

If the 1st bet is low (say $1) you can run with this same Dozen for 7 times before you get into serious money and remember this is single dozen is paying 2:1

I have not yet seen a loss with this.......Yet

So far this has been my HG and I have to say I was never using the Marty before because of the table limits.

-Celtic


Just to update it appears that the safest dozen to use is the 2nd in the sequence.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

RouletteGhost

Quote from: Celticknits on Jan 13, 11:53 PM 2016
Here's a MM idea I have been playing with that seems to work every time for this betting method.

1.) Wait until the 1 2 3 sequence, or a variant, shows up

2.) Use a straight Marty on only ONE of the Dozens ... I was usually selecting the last dozen to show up in the sequence
Keep betting that same dozen with the Marty progression until you win.
Don't forget the 0/00 IB once your bet gets high enough to warrant it

If the 1st bet is low (say $1) you can run with this same Dozen for 7 times before you get into serious money and remember this is single dozen is paying 2:1

I have not yet seen a loss with this.......Yet

So far this has been my HG and I have to say I was never using the Marty before because of the table limits.

-Celtic

Example

123 shows

Now bet dozen 2 only until a hit

312 shows

Now bet dozen 1 only until a hit

?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Celticknits

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 14, 06:35 AM 2016
Example

123 shows

Now bet dozen 2 only until a hit

312 shows

Now bet dozen 1 only until a hit

?


RG

You got it but ........
after more testing I am not sure which one of the Dozens would be best and I have also made the following mods because of this:

A.)  Use a $108 BR
B.)  Add $1 IB on each bet of the Euro wheel
C.)  Only proceed to the 5th level of the Marty for a maximum possible loss of $36 (includes insurance bets)

With the insurance bets you will get the following profit on each win...... Even,  $2,  $3,  $6,  $13 and should the 0 hit your session profit has been met.

A $108 BR will sustain you for up to 3 sessions.

Remember only play to a 20% profit and then get out.
Greed will kill you.

The only thing now is to see if there is a way to calculate which of the 3 Dozens would be best to use as a starting point because if you are putting an IB on each one and the first one hits a lot you will only break even. This is why I changed the selected initial Dozen to the second in the set.

All of my testing, so far, has been done online and only on the Euro wheel.

Good Luck

-Celtic

'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

Celticknits

Quote from: Celticknits on Jan 14, 09:07 AM 2016

With the insurance bets you will get the following profit on each win...... Even,  $2,  $3,  $6,  $13 and should the 0 hit your session profit has been met.
The only thing now is to see if there is a way to calculate which of the 3 Dozens would be best to use as a starting point because if you are putting an IB on each one and the first one hits a lot you will only break even.

I should have waited until I had my first coffee to post the previous data.
I made a mistake in my initial calculations for the 1st bet.
You will actually gain $1 and not just break even.
Sorry about that.

-Celtic

'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

mogul397

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 13, 01:25 PM 2016
Even with a .5% HE progression fails in BJ

At least roulette has many variables so you can bet against rarer patterns

8)

I'm not a card person. But the reason I like roulette, and other games like craps, is that
you can bet either side. With BJ it's only one side.
NOBODY knows what you THINK they know

Tamino

Just like John Patrick  ,  the old pro gambler, advises to stay away from BJ. He recommends playing roulette or craps instead . Nuff said..

RouletteGhost

Tamino

Thats why i dont listen to the "math cats"

Math says blackjack basic strategy should be better then any other game .5% house edge is the best around

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Tamino

At J.P  we call the Mathboyzz.

RouletteGhost

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

MrJ

At the WoV board, its called a......mathlete.

Ken
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