More hit & run thoughts

[RouletteGhost]

you have never thought that hit-n-run can be embedded into the system? The same way let's say you bet last dozen for example. The same way you can skip certain amount of spins. Why not? Is it worse than betting last dozen?

I am so surprised at people believing in HG and arguing to hit-n-run. Even Wizard of Odds recognizes that hit-n-run can win, one of conditions of his challenge of billion spins winning is placing bet on EVERY SPIN. if this did not matter to him then he would not place this condition. That's a fact that Brett Morton, John Patrick and others advocate hit-n-run. Are you smarter than all these people? Have you ever been to real casino? Look how people lose fortune being ahead first but  then after that trying to win every spin for long time, and look how smarter people win playing a few spins, getting ahead and leaving. I saw so many times people saying "i was ahead a few hundred, now i lost thousand".

With some people this idea of some HG always winning is like religious dogma. They would probably be ready to die for it.
The funny thing is that some of these people do use hit-n-run tactics in real life, but hate the term for some reason. Looks like there is some physiological reason behind this. Something like kids which love to write letters to Santa Clause and don't want to believe he does not really exist.

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[Turner]

Personally I'm not a fan of hit and run but don't think people who like it are wrong.
See....I believe the numbers are random so it's pointless purposely missing a few out...be it HE or virtual betting...to return to a random number.
Saying that...I don't always play continuously, but mostly do. I will skip a few until I see favourable conditions.
I wish someone would care to actually define HR and explain where the benefit is.
One could even say if there is a benefit to HR it's because one has reduced the HE in your favour.
You can't just say it has done so. How has it done so?

Edit...sorry...when I say favourable conditions...I mean the tables too full or too many chips. In other words I don't care if I miss a few spins....the next spin is random.

[Tamino]

you have never thought that hit-n-run can be embedded into the system? The same way let's say you bet last dozen for example. The same way you can skip certain amount of spins. Why not? Is it worse than betting last dozen?

I am so surprised at people believing in HG and arguing to hit-n-run. Even Wizard of Odds recognizes that hit-n-run can win, one of conditions of his challenge of billion spins winning is placing bet on EVERY SPIN. if this did not matter to him then he would not place this condition. That's a fact that Brett Morton, John Patrick and others advocate hit-n-run. Are you smarter than all these people? Have you ever been to real casino? Look how people lose fortune being ahead first but  then after that trying to win every spin for long time, and look how smarter people win playing a few spins, getting ahead and leaving. I saw so many times people saying "i was ahead a few hundred, now i lost thousand".

With some people this idea of some HG always winning is like religious dogma. They would probably be ready to die for it.
The funny thing is that some of these people do use hit-n-run tactics in real life, but hate the term for some reason. Looks like there is some physiological reason behind this. Something like kids which love to write letters to Santa Clause and don't want to believe he does not really exist.

That`s why I have adapted  the methods of John Patrick  They never let me down.i n one of the 2 VLS message boards someone posted also excerpts  of Brett Moron`s book.

[Turner]

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[Tamino]

It shall read BRETT MORTON !!!



Sorry.

[Lucylou]

Hi there. I'm new to these forums but like you guys have a fascination with roulette. I've been reading your posts and really enjoying learning so much.

I'd like to ask about this hit n run type of play.  I appreciate your experience and expertise with most things roulette.

If I was successful at hitting and making a decent profit, say $300 to $500 per day. And smart enough to take it rather than give it all back early on, say within the first hour of play. Would the casino catch on to me and try to stop me from playing. Or would all those $100 notes pouring into the machines from other players be enough of a distraction to allow this to go on daily? This is hypothetical of course but possible I'm sure. I hope anyway 

[Nick-the-Greek]

Hi Lucylou,

Welcome to the forum.

We have all heard stories about online casino's being your best friend whilst you are losing and then turning their backs on you when you start to win so if you are playing online be very careful before you deposit your hard earned cash - always live wheels, never RNG.

If you are playing at your local venue then they have more to lose by turning you away as that type of news travels fast in town, however if you do start to win big they will be watching you very carefully.

In both cases it's much better to win smaller amounts from different tables and even different casino's so as not to draw attention to yourself should you be so lucky to have a system that works all the time.

If you don't have a system already there are plenty of ideas on this forum - the key is to do all your own testing (either on paper or using very low value bets) and build confidence that the system is right for your type of play - don't take other peoples word.

Good luck

Nick

[Lucylou]

Thanks Nick. But is $300 to $500 every day a lot? Would it ring alarm bells? I'm thinking they would think that it can't last forever anyway. And that's probably true to. But if I'm lucky to keep a good streak going then I'm hoping they wouldn't bother with me. 

[Tacwell]

No, it's not a lot, no self respecting casino will be bothered with that, and neither should any bookie, when you get limited it's time to cross that bookie off your list, if you get asked to leave a roulette table, it's prolly cos you've had too many whiskeys.

[Lucylou]

I'll drink to that. 

[Lucylou]

I've been watching players for a while and quite often I see bundles of $100 notes being fed into machines. A lot of the time I see huge four digit balances. Does this type of betting win long term? It's intriguing to watch a huge bet all around one number then it hits. Are you in front long term? Not sure if I have the guts to try it but I see winners all the time. Tempting???

[iggiv]

i guess many things depend on concrete situation. If the place is very busy and many players regularly win big then who will pay attention at one guy as so many are on the background.If they don't track you on consistent basis how they know how much you win and lose?  But if the place is not very busy and the staff is not busy either and management very pushy then who knows.

Thanks Nick. But is $300 to $500 every day a lot? Would it ring alarm bells? I'm thinking they would think that it can't last forever anyway. And that's probably true to. But if I'm lucky to keep a good streak going then I'm hoping they wouldn't bother with me. 

[iggiv]

Let's say this casino has huge profits and everyone is happy why anyone would bother? But if something goes on and for some reason casino starts losing profits, then what happens? They will start to look for a reason. Some players should have made them lose for some reason. Then they may watch and suspect you as well.

[TwoCatSam]

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[TwoCatSam]

LL, I hate to be the voice of ruin, disaster and cynicism...but,

I would worry a whole lot more about actually winning the $300 to $500 per day than what the casino would do if you did.

Let's get real:  If you could win that kind of money, you could just jet around the world and never play the same casino in the same month!

OK....flame on!

TwoCat

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