More hit & run thoughts

[MrJ]

I know this is getting old but its kind of intriguing. Follow me on this.

There are many many articles (from pro's and members here) that say, the LONGER you stay at the casino, the more likely you'll lose. The *MATH* (H.E.) catches up to you and you are doomed. I'm not even saying I disagree with this, its all too confusing. (lol)

.....but hit & run is wrong? Isn't the definition of hit & run, playing for a short period of time, then leaving? So, every visit (that means going to a CASINO, rookies) is ONE LONG STRING OF PLAYING, combined? Those are actually my words from a previous post.

Well, people cant have it BOTH ways, you cant preach both. Do NOT say hit & run is wrong/does not help AND say, dont spend too long at the casino, it'll catch up to you. I feel both statements are a contradiction in terms.

I still believe, switching tables does not help but I guess thats a different topic.

Also, I know RG will jump on this but take pause sir. I'm not defending you, you never even entered my thoughts while thinking of this. 

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

To say hit and run doesnt work is a broad statememt

People try to make the same shoe fit different sizes

If it works for someone 9 out of 10 times then id say it works

And you are right. Biggest contradiction= dont stay too long and in another breath hit and run doesnt matter

If you play a strategy that wins 90 percent of the time then hit and run is your friend

[idob]

Hit n run doesn't help. When you play 1000 spins at once,  or play 100 spins 10 times, you're exposing yourself equally. Saying you win 90% of time has no value, as winning 9 times 10 units and lossing 1 time 100 units doesn't make you a winner, off course assuming you play with progression. Even chance flat bet would make you a billionaire in no time though

[MrJ]

Hit n run doesn't help. When you play 1000 spins at once,  or play 100 spins 10 times, you're exposing yourself equally. Saying you win 90% of time has no value, as winning 9 times 10 units and lossing 1 time 100 units doesn't make you a winner, off course assuming you play with progression. Even chance flat bet would make you a billionaire in no time though

Okay, so then do you DISAGREE......playing for too long, the H.E. cuts more into your profit, you are exposed MORE to the H.E.

Is this incorrect?

Ken

[MrJ]

link:://uh.edu/engines/hrs-roulette-chart.jpg << I posted this a couple months ago. Isn't this chart the anti-hit & run? To repeat, the *LONGER* you stay, the H.E should catch up to you. Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying you cant get your a** kicked in the first two hours, not saying that at all.

The issue when reading (from the pro's) regarding "dont stay too long", they never really address the NEXT day or NEXT week etc. So lets say I went on Monday and got in and out, did not stick around too long. I go again on Thursday, doesn't my CLOCK (its a term I use) start over FRESH?

I can even speak from ACTUAL casino play. If I had to guess, I would say I have played around 800 times (est)......and thats really not a lot. So after 800 times, you NOTICE things. Things you might feel are only a coincidence...or not.

I have been up, way up in the first 2-3 hours. I end up staying and not only lose my profit but also half my original BR. Same question (no answer yet) .....isn't the DEFINITION of hit & run to play for a short period of time then leave? So its a good question for the anti-hit & run guys.....what is your definition of hit & run? I did NOT say you endorse it, I'm only asking for the definition of it.

Ken

[MrJ]

 link:://:.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0910/casino-stats-why-gamblers-rarely-win.aspx <<<

"it does mean that the more you play, the more the math works against you and the better the chances are of you walking out of the casino with less money in your wallet than when you came in"
(not saying this is wrong but again, it says NOTHING regarding returning NEXT week...THAN WHEN YOU CAME IN).

"The more a player struggles to get ahead, the more he gets pulled into additional losses" (not saying this is wrong but again, it says NOTHING regarding returning NEXT week).

"make sure to quit while you're ahead" << Could this not be hit & run?

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

i can say that when people are winning at roulette they pamper you and convince you to stay....so that........you lose the money you won....by increasing your exposure at the table

[Tamino]

Sharp cats ( pro players) have always one  foot pointed towards the door..That what I was  taught by Jon Patrivck and has not failed me for over  30  years, Besides I pissed off  many dealers when I left the  table with winnings or  or a small loss or to make matters worse for them when I walked with a push Yes a push but my MM told me so to leave. Nuff said.


Beat `em at their own game.  It`s right in front of you .........at a B& M casino with a  live dealer at the  roulette wheel.


Let the mathboyzzz worry about the house edgae


Nathan Detroit

[RouletteGhost]

Let the mathboyzzz worry about the house edgae


Nathan Detroit

Haha

[iggiv]

LOL. For advocating hit-n-run a few years ago some guys here were ready to burn me on a stake. At least were trying to convince everyone that one who supports hit-n-run can't be a Mod.

The funny thing is that one of those guys told everyone that he plays hit-n-run in casino. Of course he did not use the cursed term. Just described it.

[MrJ]

LOL. For advocating hit-n-run a few years ago some guys here were ready to burn me on a stake. At least were trying to convince everyone that one who supports hit-n-run can't be a Mod.

The funny thing is that one of those guys told everyone that he plays hit-n-run in casino. Of course he did not use the cursed term. Just described it.

This is one of few subjects I'm on the fence for, honestly. I think I see both sides of the argument.

My POINT (which maybe is not being understood) is not hit & run per se, rather, how does it (if at all) carry over to the NEXT casino visit?

Another thing.....in terms of the 00 wheel (5.26%), lets say you were gonna bet 5 numbers per spin, exactly. (really makes no difference how many numbers)

Spin #1....5.26%
vs.
Spin #500....also 5.26%?

Question being, spin #1 is exactly the same? If it is the same, then hit & run is a fallacy??

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

Its like this

You know you have a system that works. But you also know you can have a session from hell

So if your up 200 fast....you hit....you run....it HAS merit

[Tamino]

The   house edge: If you wanna dance you gotta pay the fiddler.

[iggiv]

it is not about house edge. It's about your experience as a real player. Take Tamino for example. The well known fact is that most ot the players are ahead at some point of time, then come to lose it. You know it and you know you must stop.

Because of consistent breaking this rule by general public i guess casinos usually make more than just a house edge percentage.

This is one of few subjects I'm on the fence for, honestly. I think I see both sides of the argument.

My POINT (which maybe is not being understood) is not hit & run per se, rather, how does it (if at all) carry over to the NEXT casino visit?

Another thing.....in terms of the 00 wheel (5.26%), lets say you were gonna bet 5 numbers per spin, exactly. (really makes no difference how many numbers)

Spin #1....5.26%
vs.
Spin #500....also 5.26%?

Question being, spin #1 is exactly the same? If it is the same, then hit & run is a fallacy??

Ken

[iggiv]

if you dont have physical advantage over the wheel and you hope to win all the time with some method you believe that roulette is beatable on a long run without using physics. It's doomed.