Black and Low ( forwarded from the archives by Mr. J )

[Tamino]

link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=177.0



Mr. J.

Thanks for having located  this thread .


Tamino aka Nathan Detroit

[MrJ]

No problem buddy, glad I could help.

Ken

[tuddilue]

Hi Tamino,  are you playing this strategy today?

[Run4Lyf]

This system has an overall positive feedback, wouldn't mind trying.....by the way, does it mean you  put $10 on both black and low, meaning in the first bet you make $20 in total or you have to make a total of 10- 5- 10- 15- 15- 5 in each round?

[The Force]

I think the premise is that black and low "compete" with each other. Some people call it hedging.  The strategy, it seems, is that staying in a certain part of the wheel increases your odds.

[Tamino]

Hi Tamino,  are you playing this strategy today?


Yes but only if la partage is available.   Only in Atlantic City at a 0/00  wheel  is this available .

[tuddilue]

Hi Tamino,  are you playing this strategy today?


Yes but only if la partage is available.   Only in Atlantic City at a 0/00  wheel  is this available .

Thanks for your reply!

One more question, are you using some recovery phase when you reach your loss limit 25-30%?

[tuddilue]

One more question, are you using some recovery phase when you reach your loss limit of 25-30%?

I was searching around on EC systems and I found this "Fallacious Holy Grail".

His first post contains the worst 200 spins for red, where 69 red out of 200 and he recovers from that.

What he is doing is this: 
"The recovery phase is when your bet doubles every 37 spins if your overall is negative.
On recovery phase you reset to 1 unit whenever your overall balance becomes positive.
After recoup you restart from the first phase, however what I call first phase is totally optional."

So your system could be used in the first phase and then you go in to the recovery phase if reaching the loss limit.

For bankroll he proposes this:
"In other words for 64 units max bet your bankroll must be 600 units, for 128 units max bet your bankroll must be 1000 units, for max duration of 222 spins is approximately 4 hours, for 333 spins is  more less 6 hours (BM casino)."

What do you thinks about this?

[tuddilue]

Strange I can't post a link to the strategy. But it is over at the forum at roulette 30.com

The name is: "Fallacious Holy Grail"

[Tamino]

Tuddilue,
your question:>>>>>


One more question, are you using some recovery phase when you reach your loss limit 25-30%?<<<<<<<<

REPLY:

A recovery phase  does not exist in my MM system.  Even if I reach  the loss limit of 25 %  I  can still  leave the table a winner. Very simple   explanation I Never ever replay any net winnings but I am mandated   by my MM method to leave the table upon reaching the loss limit.


Simple  :   $ 85   net winnings  on a separate stack  less $ 60 loss limit.Who is the winner ? I or the casino ?



LEAR HOW TO WIN !

[tuddilue]

He he thanks for the fast and good explanation.  I totally agree with you! Yes this will make me learn to win 

[Tamino]

Another simple observation :

When buying in at a table the dealer deposits the cash  into sealed box at the table.  The chips around the wheel are the casinos  loss limit or action money.


When   that is gone the table`s bank has been broken but.......................they still got the cash in the  box.



BEAT `EM  AT THEIR OWN GAME !

[keepontryin]

Strange I can't post a link to the strategy. But it is over at the forum at roulette 30.com

The name is: "Fallacious Holy Grail"

i saw the same thing what he did was bet 1 unit for 37spins if in negative doubles his bet for another 37 spins .....he kept doubling even in plus he would not go back to 1 unit untill the cycle of 37spins was over.......very very interesting

[tuddilue]

Yes I can just agree. I think this should solve alot of problems around the EC betting problem.
It will be interesting to see what they arrive to. I think we also needs to test this. Interesting!